The Moan Thread! 2

quote ironmunky

Can't decide. Worst game ever, or just worst COD ever?

quote ironmunky

Every aspect of this game is literally ass backwards.

quote ironmunky

People don't like campers, what does 3arc do? give campers 4 possible pieces of equipment

quote ironmunky

Fanboys will say "blah blah just use engineer blah blah black hat blah blah" Well being able to see them doesn't help since they're still there impeding your movement and 'hacking' them or shooting them is just about the same thing as getting hit by them since the game actually tells them "enemy has destroyed/hacked you equipment" and all they have to do is turn around and wait

quote ironmunky

Stupid paper airplane things are worse than the stupid RCXDs

quote ironmunky

Now people don't even have to break out of the action to get a free kill, just throw a paper airplane up in the air and BOOM you killed someone who just spawned. Bravo 3arc, ingenious work,

quote ironmunky

Spawns are worse than the original Black Ops

quote ironmunky

which were total shit

quote ironmunky

Not only that they make the tactical insertion a bright red beam that screams at enemies "free *bleep*ing kill right *bleep*ing here, pull out your smaw and get ready" I relied heavily on the tact insert in all CODs to keep from spawning right in front of the douchebags

quote ironmunky

Winning gun fights isn't about skill, it's about connections, wonder why people rage quit?

quote ironmunky

Probably because they just put 12 bullets into a guy only to have them hipfire at them and kill them instantly. And after having this happen a few times in a match people get pissed and rage quit

quote ironmunky

I could literally go on forever

quote Range 2h bro

That's the warthog Whelan that you're thinking off.

Tbh I don't think you get much chance to dodge enemy killstreaks.."enemy lightning strike incoming" *dead*. Hunter killers are just infuriating, they always seem to go for me.

quote Phil Anselmo

Funny, I got tired of the bullshit in Black Ops 2 and popped in MW2. So much more fun to play. I might sell BO2 and pick up BO1 since I never got around to it.

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quote Phil Anselmo

Funny, I got tired of the bullshit in Black Ops 2 and popped in MW2. So much more fun to play. I might sell BO2 and pick up BO1 since I never got around to it.

B01 poor weapon balance, shit killstreaks and bad multiplayer connectivity, but GREAT maps, playability, matchmaking and Zombies. Go for it.

I'll provide a bit of a debate here, by saying I agree with everything except great maps. The maps of that game were abysmal with the exception of Launch, Grid, Firing Range and Summit. Everything else was weak. Cracked, Havana, Jungle, Hanoi, Crisis, Villa and Array are all absolute bores. However, if you dislike Black Ops 2 maps, you probably enjoy a good bore anyway, so be my guest!

There are no great maps on BO2 and the "good" ones "Meltdown Raid, Slums and Standoff" dont trump the frustration of the shit ones Aftermath Cargo, Carrier Plaza Yemen, the atrocious amount of inherent lag in the game doesn't make things any better.

I hate Array Cracked and Hanoi with a passion I won't defend those maps but I will say at least I'm not spawned and channelled into a motionless enemies target finder, I'm not limited in how many routes I can take around the maps I can be evasive if I think people are camping.

The average maps like Havana Jungle Launch and Villa are bearable, keep in mind I only play Domination.

One good game on Firing Range or Summit meets my fun quota for the evening.

I wasn't implying that all the maps are spectacular but they are overall better.
I'd trade stupid game modes like Sabotage for Kill Confirmed on BO1 but hey...

I would definitely argue that the only poor map on this game is Hijacked, ironically because of the spawns. I don't like being spawned into someone's guns on the small maps, but it all comes down to a matter of how forgiving you are. Generally if I get a kill on an enemy who's just spawned, and then the same happens to me, I'll be forgiving, because realistically speaking, to achieve the fun factor that Black Ops 2 brings that Black Ops 1 lacked so obviously, you need to compromise things, and the map designs (with the exception of the extremely narrow, foreseeably dumb Hijacked) being so small adds to the fun for me, and I can take a couple of bad spawns in exchange.

As for being limited in the amount of routes you can take around a map, I would say that you need to analyse the BO1 maps you put up. Havana was the very definition of being channeled through tight spaces (or going through the centre and dying everytime if you're up for that), and the choke points on Jungle were so hard to bypass it was ridiculous, that map was a mess (well on Domination, with the B flag placed where it is, it would probably be more bearable, I concede), but you seem to have cited Yemen as a "shit one" ironically, probably the map with by far the most routes around a map in the game, and Yemen has never seen a bad spawn for me. As for the others, with the exception of Carrier, they're the safest in terms of spawns and not exactly lacking routes around the map (although Cargo can be dumb, and Plaza has atrocious camping ingrained in people when they play it, I actually very much enjoy Aftermath, Yemen and Carrier, because I think they are thought out in that every single position has a counterposition, and those maps are generally balanced as well.

Overall though, I think we're just arguing on the grounds of personal preference unfortunately. As for the spawns, yeah it sucks, but I'd play on tight, interesting Black Ops 2 maps with a bad spawn once every 5 games, compared to the utter boredom and campfest (see pride rock in Jungle) of Black Ops 1 maps. As for the lag though, I prefer Black Ops 2's lag which is only experienced in half of the games compared to the across the board hit detection problems of Black Ops 1 which I seem to remember ALWAYS affecting me. Add to that that the guns are imaginative to a point never seen in Call of Duty, and compare that to the fact that some of the Black Ops 1 guns were LITERALLY exactly the same as others (AK47 vs. Commando, FAMAS vs AUG) and I would MUCH rather play Black Ops 2. Everytime, no exception.