Topic: is ocelot in other mgs games?
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DemonDualduals: twice da bullets in ya headstarting to like it  total posts: 69 since: Jan 2005
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is ocelot in other mgs games?
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well he could be like 40 or 50 in the other games, n i think i saw some guy with 2 revolvers, is dat him? or da son?
ah one more thing is solid snake cloned for the original snake from mgs3? man the timelines kinda confusin
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maistoDa Greatest Thing to Happen on Neoseekerultra seeker  total posts: 1456 since: Mar 2004
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MGS3 takes place before MGS1 and MGS2...
Ocelot you see in MGS3 is the young one, plays around with 2 revolvers and juggles them around.. in MGS1 and 2, you see him as an old timer yet very skilled and very coniving and smart individual....... i guess time and age does make a person more better and intelligent..
if you have played MGS1, Liquid mentions several times about Big Boss and also refers to him as "father"
now keep in mind that in MGS3, you are playing as Snake which will eventually known as Big Boss, the great legendary soldier that Solid, Liquid and Solidus refers to as "father" because they are eventually be clones after the events of MGS3.. so that answers to another of your question as to what Solid Snake really is.. keep in mind, in MGS3, not once was our protagonist called "Solid Snake", just went by the name of Snake or Jack/John..
you have asked probably one of the most obvious questions ever so i'm assuming your a n00b at the whole MGS series?
if you are, welcome and enjoy the ride, play them all.. its a great game experience..
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DemonDualduals: twice da bullets in ya headstarting to like it  total posts: 69 since: Jan 2005
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 yep, ive got my ticket  n also one last question is ocelot a bad guy? not in metal gear solid 3 , when his a old tima
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shootagainAnd you won't make any damage to meforum junky total posts: 91 since: Mar 2005
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Yeah dude and believe me..he is really bad.
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DemonDualduals: twice da bullets in ya headstarting to like it  total posts: 69 since: Jan 2005
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ehh he didnt really turn out ot be such a bad guy at the end of mgs3.. 
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Chester City FCNeo-newbie total posts: 4 since: Apr 2005
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Believe me, He is. If you listened to Ocelot's phone call at the end of the game after the credits, It confirms he is a bad guy. 
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Agent PersephoneSexy and diddlily deadlyno-stoppin-me-now  since: Apr 2004
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Ocelot is the sneakiest of the sneaks. A real bad egg he's trying to do one over of everyone. A double agent times 10. I have no idea whos side he's on 
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H2daOVFree Cassidy..!!s-e-e-k-e-r since: Jan 2004
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It must be quite cool to play MGS3 before playing 1 & 2
I was I was a MGS nub! 
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maistoDa Greatest Thing to Happen on Neoseekerultra seeker  total posts: 1456 since: Mar 2004
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quote DemonDual
 yep, ive got my ticket  n also one last question is ocelot a bad guy? not in metal gear solid 3 , when his a old tima to say the least, in playing MGS3.. i think what Kojima's point is, there is no such thing as bad or good.. just shades of grey.. To even quote The Boss, an enemy is only an enemy in relative terms.. People's value change as time goes.. In all the characters of MGS, every single character is either just doing their job or duped into knowing what right is wrong.. Ocelot is presented as a bad guy, but can you blame him? He was snatch from his mother and was raised by The Patriots and his beliefs is only what he has seen.. He is just doing his job as what his bosses tells him to do.. Was The Boss evil? To some extent, she was loyal to what she is suppose to do.. Solidus is also a bad guy, but his intentions was good.. He wanted to free America from The Patriots.. Solid Snake fought for what he believe in, but does he know what he is really fighting for? Big Boss was loyal to his job.. but after being double crossed by his own country, his beliefs change which resulted in his demise from the hands from one of his own sons....... and could it be that son who stopped Big Boss made a mistake? This is why i love MGS.. the philosophy behind every character and storyline is in depth... well i tried not to spoil to you some of the surprises of what MGS1 and MGS2 has.... To truely feel the fullfilment of the trilogy, i suggest you get the remake version of MGS: Twin Snakes as the graphics is on par with the rest of the 2 games, since your a n00b to the series, you wont likely see any of the minor changes made to the game.... only those purist had problems with that.. Gamecube is cheap nowadays.... so get your copy..
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Ironfist1989not-such-a-newbie total posts: 49 since: Apr 2005
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The Whole MGS series in my view is the best gaming series around!!!!1 by far and Heido Kojima is probaly the best story writer i can think of!!!!!! one question i find weird about Ocelot is how was he taken from his mother at a young age and then raised by The Patriots if they've been dead for over a hundred years like wot was said at the end of MGS2 ?????????
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quote Ironfist1989
The Whole MGS series in my view is the best gaming series around!!!!1 by far and Heido Kojima is probaly the best story writer i can think of!!!!!! one question i find weird about Ocelot is how was he taken from his mother at a young age and then raised by The Patriots if they've been dead for over a hundred years like wot was said at the end of MGS2 ????????? i dont think that ocelot has been raised by the patriots This message was edited by mtb on Apr 27 2005.
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maistoDa Greatest Thing to Happen on Neoseekerultra seeker  total posts: 1456 since: Mar 2004
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Well not technically raised by The Patriots themselves but was raised under their regime as their pet dog..
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bobbpugg5Bang.Resident Neo  since: May 2003
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{remember, there is a difference between the patriots and the wisemen's commitee. it's like the difference between the president's cabinet and the u.s. goverment as a whole.}
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DemonDualduals: twice da bullets in ya headstarting to like it  total posts: 69 since: Jan 2005
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wow didnt really expect such a big replie n thank ya'll, i WILL go try mgs i WILL go try metal gear solid 2 and i WILL NOT be stopped   
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Camp Kill YourselfStuck Dead makes your music look gayTwo much Neo since: May 2004
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This question is like asking Mr. Kipling if he makes cakes... 
Of corse he is, you should really play the other games ya know. 
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