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constantplanck Safely mediocre since 2000 (moderator) Football Lounge total posts: 12721 since: Nov 2008	Sep 13, 11 at 4:36pm ^ re: Potential Wonderkids
	Log in to remove this advertisement quote steakface Don't people realize how high of a PA -10 potentially gives you?! NO youngster should be -10, because that is a guaranteed superstar essentially. I think Thiago Alcantara will move to a 170+PA. Yann M'Vila 180+ Gerard Deulofeu -9 Rondon 160 Souleymane Couliably -9 Carlos Fierro -9 And they need to make the CA of some high PA players higher. Like Bouy, he's near impossible to make a star because his CA starts so low. Agree with most of this, really. Rondon, by the by, is a player that I've rated highly in my data updates for a few years now because the researchers clearly don't like his style of play and nerf him on patches and Fierro has the mark of something special about him. As for some South American talent to keep an eye on: Adryan (Brazil/Flamengo) Lucas Ocampos (Argentina/River) Juan Cruz Mascia (Uruguay/Miramar) Angelo Henriquez (Chile/U. de Chile) Andy Polo (Peru/Universitario) Jose Francisco Cevallos (Ecuador/LDU Quito) Most of you likely know Adryan already and he is likely the best of the lot but I wouldn't be surprised to see Ocampos and Henriquez pull down -9s as well with Mascia, Polo and Cevallos all being highly rated as well.
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steakface seek-o-holic total posts: 878 since: Sep 2008	Sep 13, 11 at 4:46pm ^ re: Potential Wonderkids
	quote constantplanck quote steakface Don't people realize how high of a PA -10 potentially gives you?! NO youngster should be -10, because that is a guaranteed superstar essentially. I think Thiago Alcantara will move to a 170+PA. Yann M'Vila 180+ Gerard Deulofeu -9 Rondon 160 Souleymane Couliably -9 Carlos Fierro -9 And they need to make the CA of some high PA players higher. Like Bouy, he's near impossible to make a star because his CA starts so low. Agree with most of this, really. Rondon, by the by, is a player that I've rated highly in my data updates for a few years now because the researchers clearly don't like his style of play and nerf him on patches and Fierro has the mark of something special about him. As for some South American talent to keep an eye on: Adryan (Brazil/Flamengo) Lucas Ocampos (Argentina/River) Juan Cruz Mascia (Uruguay/Miramar) Angelo Henriquez (Chile/U. de Chile) Andy Polo (Peru/Universitario) Jose Francisco Cevallos (Ecuador/LDU Quito) Most of you likely know Adryan already and he is likely the best of the lot but I wouldn't be surprised to see Ocampos and Henriquez pull down -9s as well with Mascia, Polo and Cevallos all being highly rated as well. I actually almost said Adryan as a-9 after his Youth performances this summer, and dropping Lucas Piazon to 150ish instead of -9. -------------------
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constantplanck Safely mediocre since 2000 (moderator) Football Lounge total posts: 12721 since: Nov 2008	Sep 13, 11 at 5:10pm ^ re: Potential Wonderkids
	I don't think that I saw any teenaged player play better than Adryan this summer, steakface and that includes Yesil, Fierro and Coulibaly who all look like players. His combination of vision and craft with his ball striking from set pieces is almost unfair.
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RM99 The Great One Resident Neo total posts: 2715 since: Oct 2010	Sep 13, 11 at 5:35pm ^ re: Potential Wonderkids
	quote steakface Don't people realize how high of a PA -10 potentially gives you?! NO youngster should be -10, because that is a guaranteed superstar essentially. I think Thiago Alcantara will move to a 170+PA. Yann M'Vila 180+ Gerard Deulofeu -9 Rondon 160 Souleymane Couliably -9 Carlos Fierro -9 And they need to make the CA of some high PA players higher. Like Bouy, he's near impossible to make a star because his CA starts so low. Ah someone who speaks sense.
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steakface seek-o-holic total posts: 878 since: Sep 2008	Sep 14, 11 at 1:31pm ^ re: Potential Wonderkids
	quote RM99 quote steakface Don't people realize how high of a PA -10 potentially gives you?! NO youngster should be -10, because that is a guaranteed superstar essentially. I think Thiago Alcantara will move to a 170+PA. Yann M'Vila 180+ Gerard Deulofeu -9 Rondon 160 Souleymane Couliably -9 Carlos Fierro -9 And they need to make the CA of some high PA players higher. Like Bouy, he's near impossible to make a star because his CA starts so low. Ah someone who speaks sense. It should make you happy that I think Alvaro Morata will be greatly improved. The one thing that always bothered me about FM is that if a player is rated -7 or -8 and is around 15-16 he has absolutely no chance. The CA is too low, and its impossible to make them good at a top club. I wish players could play to a higher PA maybe, or they had like a ranged PA until they're 24 or so. -------------------
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RM99 The Great One Resident Neo total posts: 2715 since: Oct 2010	Sep 14, 11 at 2:48pm ^ re: Potential Wonderkids
	Him and Jese I believe plus maybe the goal keeper who was Spain's no.1 at the U20 World Cup. Agree with you. Many of the promising youngsters, never comes close to reaching their PA no matter what you do because their CA is too low. Also agree with the last point. I would like to see flexible PAs depending on how players train and if the get match time.
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Benbwfc1 forum fever total posts: 390 since: May 2009	Sep 14, 11 at 3:09pm ^ re: Potential Wonderkids
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Symbolic mental gellar s-e-e-k-e-r total posts: 1856 since: Feb 2010	Sep 14, 11 at 3:40pm ^ re: Potential Wonderkids
	Yeah, Ross Barkley was well good when he gave the ball away cheaply, then conceded a penalty trying to win it back.
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dom_manU true seeker total posts: 1249 since: May 2008	Sep 14, 11 at 4:14pm ^ re: Potential Wonderkids
	quote Symbolic Yeah, Ross Barkley was well good when he gave the ball away cheaply, then conceded a penalty trying to win it back. You cant really judge him just on that mistake though. He is still young and has a lot of potential. I reckon he should be -9 though
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Symbolic mental gellar s-e-e-k-e-r total posts: 1856 since: Feb 2010	Sep 14, 11 at 4:45pm ^ re: Potential Wonderkids
	Oh, I know he has potential and I don't doubt he'll be a star in the future. It's just people saying they're surprised United haven't come in for a player who's played what, 5 Premier League games?
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Gitos Resident Neo total posts: 2512 since: Mar 2006	Sep 14, 11 at 7:28pm ^ re: Potential Wonderkids
	quote constantplanck Agree with most of this, really. Rondon, by the by, is a player that I've rated highly in my data updates for a few years now because the researchers clearly don't like his style of play and nerf him on patches and Fierro has the mark of something special about him. As for some South American talent to keep an eye on: Adryan (Brazil/Flamengo) Lucas Ocampos (Argentina/River) Juan Cruz Mascia (Uruguay/Miramar) Angelo Henriquez (Chile/U. de Chile) Andy Polo (Peru/Universitario) Jose Francisco Cevallos (Ecuador/LDU Quito) Most of you likely know Adryan already and he is likely the best of the lot but I wouldn't be surprised to see Ocampos and Henriquez pull down -9s as well with Mascia, Polo and Cevallos all being highly rated as well. I heard he is a mint player and plays well in the hole I hopw there will be more -10's, after only just one last year ------------------- Signature down for maintanence
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steakface seek-o-holic total posts: 878 since: Sep 2008	Sep 14, 11 at 9:26pm ^ re: Potential Wonderkids
	quote Gitos quote constantplanck Agree with most of this, really. Rondon, by the by, is a player that I've rated highly in my data updates for a few years now because the researchers clearly don't like his style of play and nerf him on patches and Fierro has the mark of something special about him. As for some South American talent to keep an eye on: Adryan (Brazil/Flamengo) Lucas Ocampos (Argentina/River) Juan Cruz Mascia (Uruguay/Miramar) Angelo Henriquez (Chile/U. de Chile) Andy Polo (Peru/Universitario) Jose Francisco Cevallos (Ecuador/LDU Quito) Most of you likely know Adryan already and he is likely the best of the lot but I wouldn't be surprised to see Ocampos and Henriquez pull down -9s as well with Mascia, Polo and Cevallos all being highly rated as well. I heard he is a mint player and plays well in the hole I hopw there will be more -10's, after only just one last year I doubt it. Logistically, who could be a -10? A little biased but if its forced, Thiago Alcantara is all I can think of. Since Neymar, Ganso, etc. all on fixed PAs. -------------------
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Reilly 31 Check Ya Self Before You Reck Ya Self s-e-e-k-e-r since: Mar 2008	Sep 15, 11 at 2:46pm ^ re: Potential Wonderkids
	Hopefully Jack Butland and Nathan Redmond are -9. Doubt we will see any -10 players this year. ------------------- Credit Pompey Fan
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RM99 The Great One Resident Neo total posts: 2715 since: Oct 2010	Sep 15, 11 at 3:49pm ^ re: Potential Wonderkids
	quote steakface quote Gitos quote constantplanck Agree with most of this, really. Rondon, by the by, is a player that I've rated highly in my data updates for a few years now because the researchers clearly don't like his style of play and nerf him on patches and Fierro has the mark of something special about him. As for some South American talent to keep an eye on: Adryan (Brazil/Flamengo) Lucas Ocampos (Argentina/River) Juan Cruz Mascia (Uruguay/Miramar) Angelo Henriquez (Chile/U. de Chile) Andy Polo (Peru/Universitario) Jose Francisco Cevallos (Ecuador/LDU Quito) Most of you likely know Adryan already and he is likely the best of the lot but I wouldn't be surprised to see Ocampos and Henriquez pull down -9s as well with Mascia, Polo and Cevallos all being highly rated as well. I heard he is a mint player and plays well in the hole I hopw there will be more -10's, after only just one last year I doubt it. Logistically, who could be a -10? A little biased but if its forced, Thiago Alcantara is all I can think of. Since Neymar, Ganso, etc. all on fixed PAs. I'd say Thiago and Gotze should be -10. If nor -10 then atleast a set PA of 180. Germany and Spain should have most of the -9s.
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Benjamino threadnought total posts: 681 since: Jan 2008	Sep 15, 11 at 4:28pm ^ re: Potential Wonderkids
	quote RM99 Germany and Spain should have most of the -9s. Not should, they will. They have pretty much all the world class youngsters, and will (between them) dominate world football for years to come. Until our next Golden Generation come through.
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