MW3 weapon discussion thread - Page 4

quote staintool

quote donmonster

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Why don't u talk about something worth talking about. The acr isn't overpowered. It just has no recoil. Hell, I only have about 400 kills with the damn thing because I choose not to use what's considered OP. personally I can't even kill people with it.


Talk about LMGs. Nobody ever says anything about them. I've been using the mg36, and man is it a machine. My buddy's using the l86 lsw, we both just rape the hell out of people with them, and they rage so bad knowing it's an LMG. Their outclassed by everything except maybe the riot shield. But a setup like
Mg36 silenced
Kick
Your choice secondary
Sleight of hands
QuickDraw
Marksman
Specialist


It's pretty unstoppable. You have 100 rounds, and with marksman you can spot people at sniper range and just unload until they die. Sure they aren't good with accuracy. But with auto aim in this game it really doesn't matter. Your enemies WILL eventually die if you unload enough rounds. And if the enemy puts air support up, you don't even use a whole mag to take it down.


Whys it always have to be OP this, mp7 that, type 95 yada yada..
i love the lmgs. but i think you'll do even better with them if you lose marksman and choose stalker instead. then you're really unstoppable. strafe much better and any ims, claymores,bbs, etc. can't get your slow ass

That's why I use specialist on my LMG class silly.
well make marksman one of your specialist perks silly. stalker should be mandatory with lmg

Nah, I can literally see your whole team across the map without seeing your physical body. Place shots at your red name, auto aim takes care of the rest. I'd rather use steady aim pro over stalker with a LMG. If I'm aiming down sight I want to see your name. And I wasn't to be able to bring my gun up fast after sprinting.. I don't need to move fast while aiming if I have 100 rounds to spit at you. I have 100 rounds to spit at u.. Aims pointless.

quote HU1CH13

quote Ajax

I'm more partial to akimbo .44's. They have the same damage up close, but just handle better. The Deagle does do more damage at range, but with the thing's visual recoil, you've got zero chance actually hitting the guy. The MP-412 does the same damage as the .44, except it sounds like the damn USP, so I don't use it.


Every class I use now just has a single .44 now. The only time I need my side-arm is when I run out of ammo. What's the fastest draw?

A single pistol, and with 49/14 damage, the only time I'll draw the thing is when it's up close and personal and if I haven't done enough damage to kill the guy with one .44 magnum bullet I don't deserve the kill.


+ It's nice getting the final 5-10 kills in 2v2/ 3v3 face-off with a single .44 to really rub in the fact that they're shit.

The .44 Magnum deffo handles better out of the two out of the high powered handguns, but no handgun nothing looks more beautiful than the IMI Desert Eagle Mark XIX tbh, plus ingame, it sounds the shit. I originally used it just to mess about and sort of troll people, but then I found out it does actually work and it's far too fun to use not to give them up.

But for a more sensible sidearm, I would just go with a single USP or P99, although I don't think their firecaps are as high as the FiveSeven's or Deagle's which is a shame.

I use the .44 all the time. My favorite sidearm in the game. Unless I'm using the mp9.

But I can't for the life of me use the Deagle... Even if I aim at your head and your standing still I can't kill anyone with it.. I'd have better luck using it spinning in circles on insane sensitivity firing with a rapid fire controller..

In mw2 I had the same issue, but I grinded it out to get them akimbo and then they were god.. Maybe I need to do the same for this game.

Any good pointers for using and leveling it up?

quote HU1CH13

quote Ajax

I'm more partial to akimbo .44's. They have the same damage up close, but just handle better. The Deagle does do more damage at range, but with the thing's visual recoil, you've got zero chance actually hitting the guy. The MP-412 does the same damage as the .44, except it sounds like the damn USP, so I don't use it.


Every class I use now just has a single .44 now. The only time I need my side-arm is when I run out of ammo. What's the fastest draw?

A single pistol, and with 49/14 damage, the only time I'll draw the thing is when it's up close and personal and if I haven't done enough damage to kill the guy with one .44 magnum bullet I don't deserve the kill.


+ It's nice getting the final 5-10 kills in 2v2/ 3v3 face-off with a single .44 to really rub in the fact that they're shit.

But for a more sensible sidearm, I would just go with a single USP or P99, although I don't think their firecaps are as high as the FiveSeven's or Deagle's which is a shame.

The P99 has the highest firecap doesn't it?

quote HU1CH13

quote donmonster

I use the .44 all the time. My favorite sidearm in the game. Unless I'm using the mp9.

But I can't for the life of me use the Deagle... Even if I aim at your head and your standing still I can't kill anyone with it.. I'd have better luck using it spinning in circles on insane sensitivity firing with a rapid fire controller..

In mw2 I had the same issue, but I grinded it out to get them akimbo and then they were god.. Maybe I need to do the same for this game.

Any good pointers for using and leveling it up?

To be honest, a single Deagle isn't all that good from what I remembered of using it when getting it to level 10, but I didn't care, I just had fun using it. Make sure you have a fast trigger finger to make use of it's high fire cap, if you're ADS'ing, then aim at their belly although I think I had more success just firing from the hip even with a single one. It's all I can think of to be honest. Guess it works for some people and not for others. Some people love that MP-412 REX thing, for me, it's a pile of dogshit and I have better chances poking someone with my index finger for a kill than using that thing. Getting that to level 10 sucked dick.

I didnt have a problem getting the Rex to 10. I just think they sound like utter crap. It's like * pack pack pack* it doesn't even sound like a gun.

quote donmonster

Why don't u talk about something worth talking about. The acr isn't overpowered. It just has no recoil. Hell, I only have about 400 kills with the damn thing because I choose not to use what's considered OP. personally I can't even kill people with it.


Talk about LMGs. Nobody ever says anything about them. I've been using the mg36, and man is it a machine. My buddy's using the l86 lsw, we both just rape the hell out of people with them, and they rage so bad knowing it's an LMG. Their outclassed by everything except maybe the riot shield. But a setup like
Mg36 silenced
Kick
Your choice secondary
Sleight of hands
QuickDraw
Marksman
Specialist


It's pretty unstoppable. You have 100 rounds, and with marksman you can spot people at sniper range and just unload until they die. Sure they aren't good with accuracy. But with auto aim in this game it really doesn't matter. Your enemies WILL eventually die if you unload enough rounds. And if the enemy puts air support up, you don't even use a whole mag to take it down.


Whys it always have to be OP this, mp7 that, type 95 yada yada..
i love the lmgs. but i think you'll do even better with them if you lose marksman and choose stalker instead. then you're really unstoppable. strafe much better and any ims, claymores,bbs, etc. can't get your slow ass

The thing about the lmgs though is they are outclassed close range by the smgs, and at long range by the snipers. I used to think that they were good at long range, but the thing about the lmgs is it still takes 3 bullets to kill at long range, while snipers out damage it with only one. And as for close range, the inferior run speed, slower ADS time, and fire rates mean it's pretty poor there as well.

I have all the lmgs gold, and I'll say they're pretty fun against bad opponents, but the L86 and the M60 are the only ones worth using tbh. The M60's two shot kill at close range can net you a few surprise kills against smg users haha, and the L86 is almost an assault rifle. The MK46 was a pretty nice surprise as well, even if it's sights are a bit yuck. The MG36 in my opinion out of all of them. Poor sights, and a larger amount of recoil left me despising it by the time I got it gold.

And yeah, you're right about making others rage haha. My friend who always uses smgs pretty much rages ridiculous amounts when he gets killed by an lmg. haha, even though it's not even logical to claim that they are "so cheap", to quote him.

HU1CH13

In terms of fire caps, I'm pretty sure the USP has a low fire rate, and the P99 and the Five seven are the best. I was actually really pleasantly surprised by those two, because before I'd been using the USP, and I pretty much always died.

I'm working my way through all the pistol challenges, and even though I'm not up to the Deagle yet, almost finished Five Seven Extended Mags, I was actually pretty happy about what some of the pitols can do. Particularly surprising was the MP412 and the P99. When I finish all the secondary challenges, I'll most likely go back to either of those in Akimbo, or alternatively the G18, since those are badass in Akimbo.

quote Wackajack

quote deathdealer2469

there isn't many guns that are too OP the reason why they seem like it is because they have a fast fire rate and because you die ridiculously quick in mw3 it makes it seem as if theyre OP

I can tell u a few...any automatic sniper rifle that kills you 1 shot not being a headshot.
MP7
Akimbo anything
Shotguns at long range

so you think getting hit by a 50 cal barrett,without a headshot, and dying is OP? if one gun is UP it's the barrett. that should be a one shot kill every time.

quote staintool

so you think getting hit by a 50 cal barrett,without a headshot, and dying is OP? if one gun is UP it's the barrett. that should be a one shot kill every time.

No it shouldn't because what happens is blokes hipfire it and shoot it like an AR. I have no problem being killed by automatic snipers when its a headshot, the problem i have is when the first bullet misses they go crazy on the trigger until they get a hit marker. FFS the RSSAS is like a long ranged version of the MK14.