AA12 and PM9- Should I try to use these?

I do not know what the problem is with me and these two weapons, I heard good feedback about the AA12 and saw that the PM9 had the same stats as the PP90 but with higher ROF. I gave these weapons a try and I was shocked... My two games with them- AA12- 2-13 on seatown
PM9- 3-24 on seatown (note that those three kills were with semtex)
For each gun I emptied my mag on a camper on a table in a corner of a building and all I got was hitmarkers (I was using steady aim and was aiming straight at him).

I am the type to go working on horrible weapons (M16 over anything)and
I was thinking, was there a sort of catch on using these weapons or are they just unusable pieces of garbage?

PM-9 is a good gun, you just have to play different with it, and by different I mean do not ADS. Slap steady aim on there, RF, and just go crazy.

The AA-12 is simple, it has no range whatsoever, it's damage is pretty terrible, and it hardly has any ammo. Like I said with the PM-9 you have to use that different too, and by that I mean you HAVE to get as close to the enemy as possible. Treat it like a Striker, or any other shotgun for that matter, and it's either hit marker city, or no hit markers at all.

Mia

I only said it's a good gun from experience. If you use it on maps like Dome, Arkaden, and Lockdown the gun can be a monster. I've taken out Striker users in CQC using this gun, so to me that makes it wonderful.

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theQman

How about we agree to disagree? No?

Sure, but that's my opinion on the gun. Didn't say you had to agree, or anyone for that matter. I've had success and love the KSG even before unlocking damage and extended mags but I know everyone and their bitch will disagree with me on that gun. It's just opinion.

Not saying you're bad or anything, but just because you go negative with a gun doesn't mean it's bad. If you use a gun to it's advantage like say, only using the PM-9 on small maps where you can just hipfire, or only using the KSG, don't know why I'm mentioning the KSG again it wasn't even in the thread topic but whatever haha, with Steady Aim and hipfire everyone the GUN will do good. Maybe the KSG is not the best example because the shotguns in general are inconsistent, even with damage and EM. I hold a 2.10 kd, and my accuracy is a 20.01 or something like that, and I hardly ever go negative, the only reason my kd isn't higher is because all my deaths when I first got the game, but what I'm saying is I went negative using the type before. Is that a bad gun? I also went negative using the ACR, is that a bad gun? It is embarrassing though haha, but my point is no matter how good you are, using yourself as an example is inaccurate. I've never and I mean never gone negative with the PM-9, but you don't see me calling it the best gun in the game.

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Is that a bad gun? I also went negative using the ACR, is that a bad gun? It is embarrassing though haha, but my point is no matter how good you are, using yourself as an example is inaccurate. I've never and I mean never gone negative with the PM-9, but you don't see me calling it the best gun in the game.

...but what you said was good about the gun was based on your own personal experience.

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Mia

I only said it's a good gun from experience. If you use it on maps like Dome, Arkaden, and Lockdown the gun can be a monster. I've taken out Striker users in CQC using this gun, so to me that makes it wonderful.

I'm just trying to put two and two together here. I'm kind of finding the correlation here a bit confusing. Sorry. o_O

I'm not a terrible player (I think my KD was 1.85 or something) and I actively use some of the more sub par weapons in the game but I'm the type of player to do just that. I'm not going to run into the open with an SMG or Shotgun like an idiot. The only time I've ever found myself doing that is when I use an AR or I'm trying to quickscope. The maps I primarily found the PM-9 working on was Bootleg, Hardhat, and Dome. Other than that, I couldn't really stand the thing so I never used it on other maps.

Mia

Forget everything I said in my first 2 post. All I'm saying now is using yourself as an example it not accurate. And by putting two and two together what do you mean.

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Mia

Forget everything I said in my first 2 post. All I'm saying now is using yourself as an example it not accurate. And by putting two and two together what do you mean.

You saying that you can't judge how gun is good by personal experience, when prior saying it's a good gun by personal experience.

I look at the gun specifically from it's statistics. Damage, Rate of Fire, Recoil, ADS timing, ect ect. The PM-9 is relatively poor in roughly all of these things compared to the rest of the SMGs.

Yes, but I also said that is my opinion. I'm not the maker of the gun, I didn't say for sure it's a good gun, I said quote 'it's only a good gun from experience'. I never said it's fact the gun is good did I? I think it's a wonderful gun. That's my opinion on it. I never had any problems with it because I use it to it's advantage.

And by the way the PM-9 has the highest RoF of all the SMGs, that doesn't seem poor to me in comparison to the others, in fact if you put RF on it, it will no doubt destroy people in CQC, even when up against other SMGs.