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Like Whelan said, last year the Black Ops forum tried to run a tournament for each console which some of you will remember, the 360 one only got one round done whereas the PS3 one didn't even manage that IIRC. Too many people sign up and then just don't bother, some don't log in for a while so that's understandable to an extent but some just completely ignore all the notifications and PMs. Easy enough to kick people out but it always happens and is always a problem. tyranitar24 it would most likely be exactly the same rules as the Black Ops tournaments ( 360, PS3) as in terms of preparation it was sound. Simple enough host management, randomiser that picked the matches and teams. The only thing that would need to be changed would be the banned weapons and killstreaks list.
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quote Matt 123456789
Compared with the same time after release date of previous Call of Duty games this forum is dead, you lot should get the moan thread back out, who gives a shit if it'll increase negativity? Better than having a dead forum
Modern Warfare 2 was at a PPD of around 400 in the January after its release.  I couldn't find out about Black Ops, but it was probably not far off the PPD of this forum right now, 175. quote Whelan
play it on the Wii and tell me they're the same game.  wow black ops it was separate. Why not the same here? mw3 the wii game was made by treyarch, there's a complete different community. Probably some other stuff always that i could add Forgot to reply to this. Have you played it yourself? They're exactly the same. Same campaign, same multiplayer (except 5v5), even spec ops is in it albeit a bit less of it. Edit: Jan 10, 12 4:18am
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They have the same age ratings. Whelan - They're all the same. The only reason it doesn't get DLC is because that doesn't exist on the Wii and it doesn't get as much support because very few people even play it, that's hardly a reason to make them completely separate. Same game, same forum, there's no reason why it should be different because one version is on an inferior console.
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Whelan | |
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Own profile yes, own forum no. Why should Wii players (if any) suffer with a 0 PPD forum when they have questions that can easily be answered here by any of you? If they become separate and a Wii player decides to ask their question here instead of the Wii forum they'd be flamed to high hell just for playing the Wii, then told to go back to their own forum.
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Whelan | |
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Sorry, please show me all the Wii related threads within the last week, or the last month, that have popped up in this forum. Not the PTO, DreamCrafter made that and would not have done so if they were separate forums.
Why is that funny? Unless you're laughing at the immaturity of most of the community, in that case it is kind of funny.
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quote Whelan
You still haven't answered the question as to why this one can't have one when the Black Ops one had a separate forum. And the fact that the Black Ops one didn't have a 0 PPD but you decided to make up a fictional value for no reason.
I doubt we'll see any Wii related threads because of the fact this forum is so PS3, Xbox, PC dominant that one mention of the word Wii, and I doubt anyone would reply.
So for example if someone said, "oh I saw someone glitch into the truck on Outpost
Wii btw"*
How would anyone reply? And by the time someone who does play the Wii views the thread it'll already be dead and buried.
*Purely made up
inb4 all the mods of neo come in this thread to back other mods like they always *bleep*ing do
Because that's a stupid point that's not even worth answering. It was hardly a fictional value for no reason, I was emphasising the point the forum will be dead. There is no reason at all why they should be split, it's not hard to just state the Wii version was developed by Treyarch on the profile, that was the only shadow of a reason you had why they should be split. Won't see any Wii threads because it's so PC/360/PS3 dominant? Haha. If a Wii player came along and wanted to post about bad spawns or a bad weapon like anybody can do, they will I'm sure. There just isn't very many of them it seems. Horrific example, you know this community, you're just being pedantic to try and add validity your moot point. You mention "by the time anyone who does play the Wii views the thread" as if it actually matters what console players play when they view threads. The PS3 version and the 360 version have different glitches, is this a good reason for those two to be split? No.
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Whelan | |
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I'm basing it on the fact the Black Ops Wii forum was not very popular even though it was a pretty good console port, and also that this game on the Wii is horribly ported over this year and is not even worth playing. You've already shown proof of a Wii player who posts here and has contributed to discussion and made his own, proof that players of all the consoles can discuss the same things together, regardless of a different developer working on the Wii game. The only point you had was the difference in developers and that is not a difficult thing to change. You realise this though, hence the sudden urge to show you don't care and do the whole tough guy thing who's stopping 'to not get banned'. edit: Whelan, this should not be hard to grasp. It was not very popular. That is all. It doesn't have to be a comparison. It maxed at what, 50ppd? I may be wrong in the exact peak but I know it didn't stay like that for very long. As for unmerges not being possible, Aurora already addressed that here. If you have accepted that it should at least have the correct info, why did you bother arguing with me when that's what I've suggested. Edit: Jan 10, 12 9:06am
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Everything is the same bar the developers, support and slight differences in Spec Ops, Mia. This is why I didn't understand why they were separate, different developers doesn't really seem like a solid reason but ah well.
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The situation wouldn't be difficult to contain, mods can delete threads instantly to prevent any clogging and there's only a few of you regular video posters so you're likely to quickly find yourself banned if you decide to ignore the rules on advertising. quote Mia
I never really liked the thread. I've honestly just been thinking about putting a stop to videos all together that don't promote discussion.
Thoughts? I agree that we should dump the video thread, but at the same time I also don't want to see the forum flooded with "watch me play" videos
It's worth keeping open I'd say, it can be a decent thread but it just takes you or PhoenixBlue keeping a close eye on it to make sure people are actually discussing, and not just plugging their channels.
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Of course the thread is going to be an indication of where things went wrong as it was never dealt with, but there's little use in using it an example of how many posts you'd have to delete because that's from a time when they had free reign to advertise all they liked. If you choose to try and improve it instead of just closing it after you've spoke with PhoenixBlue you could just make a new thread, fresh rules, make it clear people won't be allowed to just advertise and not contribute at all, and the problem will be minimized. No doubt you'll still get people coming in just posting their videos and disappearing, but just delete the post, and no harm done. You tested having no moan thread, I think it would be worth testing a revamped video thread for things like Horse/Whelan said. Better than just not bothering and closing the thread imo. quote Clief
Whats the point of threatening peopke with bans when the thread is harming no one. There is no flaming or any thing in there. It quite literally is hurting no one. And the value for discussion is there if someone asks for it. I honestly dont see the problem in it.
I was referring to what you said below. It wasn't a threat, especially since I have no jurisdiction over this forum, but it's what would eventually happen if you decided to think that it was OK to make threads just to advertise your channel if the video thread was closed. quoteIf you close it then you will have people making threads promoting their channel instead, filling up the front page with closed threads. If you close it, you will be creating a larger problem that is difficult to contain
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He's so detached from the forum, he doesn't even know who the mods are. 
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I doubt it, since I'm not taking anything away.
And we're not butting in. This is a thread for anyone to request/suggest or give feedback.
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quote ForrestPower
The thread has brought a lot of people together. There are about ten active people that use it and, I'd say, we get on well as a result of it. I've met a lot of people in that thread; it can't be a bad thing if it brings people together. It's hardly shameless self promotion either because, as has been pointed out, hardly anyone goes in that thread: we're not exactly flypostering our YT channel's address on a billboard. I just use it as a means of keeping up to date with some of the members on here that post videos. Who cares who it brought together, it's advertising and it's not allowed, that issue is bigger than the fact it doesn't generate any discussion, which is a point that seems to be going over your head. If you're all friends and watch each others youtube videos, surely you are all subscribed to one another, so you won't have to use the thread 'as a means to keep up to date with others who post videos' as you say.
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quote ForrestPower
I don't really agree that it's advertising though, either, so nothing is 'going over my head.' As someone pointed out before, very few people go into that thread. If I was actively advertising my channel to a worthwhile audience, I'd look for new viewers: not people that I already know! quoteI appreciate our definitions of 'advertising' may differ and I can see where you're coming from, but at the end of the day, the thread is doing no harm. You are the all powerful, omniscient forum demi-gods that we must bow to though - so I guess it's your definition that counts - but that's just my view. ad·ver·tise·ment/ˈadvərˌtīzmənt/ Noun: A notice or announcement in a public medium promoting a product, service, or event or publicizing a job vacancy. That's the definition for advertising, and it's what your doing, you are making a post promoting your channel. We're not going by different definitions here, advertising isn't a hard concept to grasp, I just think you're against the thread being changed as you're one of the ones who post your video and disappear until it's time to post the next one, just like everyone else who has jumped to the defence of the threads current state. Whether or not you do it with the intention of promoting it is besides the point (despite the fact it's clearly why you do it), it's still advertising. Just because it's not a very popular thread, that doesn't make it an exception to the rules in place on advertising.
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Just a note, you said our definitions of advertising differ and that was causing a problem since you think what you were doing was not advertising, whilst I think it is. That's why I brought up a definition, not to patronise you, just to give a bit of ground to what we were discussing.
No more though, just wanted to clear it up. Wasn't trying to be patronising or anything of the sort.
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