The Moan Thread II - Page 30

quote Yogurt

I'll give you a few reasons why Black Ops sucks though. Hit detection is awful and when it came out it was even worse, you talking about MW3 being a new game well it's far superior to what Black Ops was and it doesn't have that much of a graphical change to MW2 whereas Black Ops is completely different to WaW, in a bad way. Lag is awful which makes the hit detection seem worse, sure MW3 doesn't have the best connection or the best at picking hosts but Black Ops was/is far worse. Instead of going through many more, how about Modern Warfare 3 is fun an objective Treyarch clearly didn't aspire to for Black Ops. It also looks shit, sounds shit, maps are shit for the most part, textures are shit, layers are shit, guns sound plastic, a few guns completely wreck the other guns, sure you've got the Type 95 in this game (although it's not that common) but Snipers are also good, along with pretty much all the other Assault Rifles and SMGs and a couple of the LMG's with the Striker being good also. Everything bar the few (AUG, AK74u, G11, FAMAS) good guns in Black Ops were literally bullshit (in comparison to the other few), yeah you could use them and do good with them but using an AUG or something was just easy mode. Shotguns were shit... even on Nuketown. I know MW3's shotties aren't what they should (in our eyes) be but the Striker is so good. In MW3 if I use an M4/MP7/L86 or even the Type 95 you can use pretty much any other gun and feel comfortable in a fight against me even with the not so good guns (apparently) like the MP5. It's down to opinions but I know a lot of people that absolutely dislike Black Ops.

I said I wasn't going to go into it and although I didn't go into much detail I still talked about it quite a bit - it's just so shit it's easy to vent over.

Cool. Well thanks for taking the time and listing some reasons. Shows you're open to a convo.

The problem with going back and bringing up your past posts is that your opinions could have been slightly different then or at least your reasoning could have changed. For instance, you can look back and find me saying Black Ops sux donkey dong. I wouldn't say that now.

I don't want to promote BlOps as some great game necessarily because it isn't.

My problem is that there's this group of people that just want to blow rasberries at BlOps and treat MW3 like its Jesus the second coming and I really beg to differ. Don't get me wrong I've spent ££s my own dough on MW3 so I want to play the game and enjoy it.

Let's look at your commment though. Most of what you list as outright flaws (look of the game, sounds of guns, sniping, map layout, textures) are debatable.

The other stuff you list you actually go on to counter yourself right after lol

"The Famas, galil 74u beasts on everything else, oh wait The Type 95..."

"Lag/hit detection, oh wait, MW3 connection isn't great either"

"BlOps shotties are shit, oh wait..."

So in essence you don't disagree with me all that much.

As for "Fun" factors that is almost totally subjective.

I certainly am not having fun when all of me friends through my headset sound like they are gurgling mouthwash and rubbing sandpaper together but I can hear every random shithead playing eminem full blast down their cheapo bluetooth microphones crystal clear.

Is it true someone can end your hard earned killstreak by automatically dropping some kind of C4 if you shoot them? Fun?? Isn't that a kick in the twot?

On top of all of that the very thread we're on is flourishing with complaint after complaint many of which if you changed the names of guns/maps are identical to BlOps. Again, a brand new flippin game.

So after all of this if you think MW3 is better today, you're just in denial in light of what is happening around you. Infinity Ward clearly have a lot of work to do, its way too early to give them that pat on the back. Unless we somehow enjoy looking goofy and fickle

quote roseability

quote Yogurt

I'll give you a few reasons why Black Ops sucks though. Hit detection is awful and when it came out it was even worse, you talking about MW3 being a new game well it's far superior to what Black Ops was and it doesn't have that much of a graphical change to MW2 whereas Black Ops is completely different to WaW, in a bad way. Lag is awful which makes the hit detection seem worse, sure MW3 doesn't have the best connection or the best at picking hosts but Black Ops was/is far worse. Instead of going through many more, how about Modern Warfare 3 is fun an objective Treyarch clearly didn't aspire to for Black Ops. It also looks shit, sounds shit, maps are shit for the most part, textures are shit, layers are shit, guns sound plastic, a few guns completely wreck the other guns, sure you've got the Type 95 in this game (although it's not that common) but Snipers are also good, along with pretty much all the other Assault Rifles and SMGs and a couple of the LMG's with the Striker being good also. Everything bar the few (AUG, AK74u, G11, FAMAS) good guns in Black Ops were literally bullshit (in comparison to the other few), yeah you could use them and do good with them but using an AUG or something was just easy mode. Shotguns were shit... even on Nuketown. I know MW3's shotties aren't what they should (in our eyes) be but the Striker is so good. In MW3 if I use an M4/MP7/L86 or even the Type 95 you can use pretty much any other gun and feel comfortable in a fight against me even with the not so good guns (apparently) like the MP5. It's down to opinions but I know a lot of people that absolutely dislike Black Ops.

I said I wasn't going to go into it and although I didn't go into much detail I still talked about it quite a bit - it's just so shit it's easy to vent over.

Cool. Well thanks for taking the time and listing some reasons. Shows you're open to a convo.

The problem with going back and bringing up your past posts is that your opinions could have been slightly different then or at least your reasoning could have changed. For instance, you can look back and find me saying Black Ops sux donkey dong. I wouldn't say that now.

I don't want to promote BlOps as some great game necessarily because it isn't.

My problem is that there's this group of people that just want to blow rasberries at BlOps and treat MW3 like its Jesus the second coming and I really beg to differ. Don't get me wrong I've spent ££s my own dough on MW3 so I want to play the game and enjoy it.

Let's look at your commment though. Most of what you list as outright flaws (look of the game, sounds of guns, sniping, map layout, textures) are debatable.

The other stuff you list you actually go on to counter yourself right after lol

"The Famas, galil 74u beasts on everything else, oh wait The Type 95..."

"Lag/hit detection, oh wait, MW3 connection isn't great either"

"BlOps shotties are shit, oh wait..."

So in essence you don't disagree with me all that much.

As for "Fun" factors that is almost totally subjective.

I certainly am not having fun when all of me friends through my headset sound like they are gurgling mouthwash and rubbing sandpaper together but I can hear every random shithead playing eminem full blast down their cheapo bluetooth microphones crystal clear.

Is it true someone can end your hard earned killstreak by automatically dropping some kind of C4 if you shoot them? Fun?? Isn't that a kick in the twot?

On top of all of that the very thread we're on is flourishing with complaint after complaint many of which if you changed the names of guns/maps are identical to BlOps. Again, a brand new flippin game.

So after all of this if you think MW3 is better today, you're just in denial in light of what is happening around you. Infinity Ward clearly have a lot of work to do, its way too early to give them that pat on the back. Unless we somehow enjoy looking goofy and fickle

You blatantly just read what I said, looked for what you wanted to argue against me with and just left out what I justified the point with. G11, FAMAS, 74u, shit on all the other guns and even though the Type 95 in MW3 is overpowered (not massively I think) you can feel comfortable when using another gun against it but if you were against one of the OPed guns in Black Ops you wouldn't feel so good. The lag and hit detection made it worse. MW3's isn't great, I know, but it's better than Black Ops'.

I would rather be killed by some bitch using DMH and kill me with his utterly pathetic C4 every once in a few games (or another deathstreak) rather than be told my opponents are wearing bullet proof vests when i'm shooting them in the chest with my M16 for them to turn around and shoot me with their 74u/FAMAS/G11 when apparently I had hardly shot at them (hit detection/lag on Black Ops).

Black Ops shotties ARE shit, MW3s are not good but the Striker is good. At least you can use one. And anyway I never said MW3 was all so great and flawless, it has a few too many flaws but Black Ops is just full of flaws. The maps are mainly shit. Ghost was a pain, yeah Assassin is kind of a pain now but you don't get everyone on the other team using it they prefer to use a different perk at least half the team does anyway. The sounds of the game are something important not majorly important but important... You see how much people have complained just about hit marker problems on the PS3 for MW3 and you tell me that they're debatable (the textures, gun sounds, sniping etc). Sure, but many share this opinion with me. Sniping was horrible on Black Ops, I like the fact they tried to get rid of QSing but they went way too far they didn't just elminate QSers they fked up sniping.

I hope you don't think I think MW3 is the "second coming" as it's not. Black Ops is just so awful, MW3 seems much better than it is. It's actually refreshing to be able to have fun on the latest CoD, people are talking about the 'xmas noobs' coming and yeah they boost your K/D and give you easy wins with some fun at 'beasting' but after a while even after a few days and especially after a week they're just like the people who got it before (most of them) and can play just as well. LLast year I had given up on Black Ops BEFORE December started...

I will 'pat' IW on the back because they made a game that I can have fun on for more than a couple of weeks (Zombies being an exception for Black Ops) well a lot more, I like this game, it's no must have game it's not even 9/10 but it's FUN.

I don't think you're looking for arguments. I think Black Ops is horrible and MW3 is decent, end of.

quote DragonEmperor

So what changed about the fmg akimbo and T95?

So far, nothing. Hasn't been a patch out yet.

quote Whelan

I thought they patched it today?

I went on at around 7ish for a few FFA's and there was no patch to download. I'm guessing you have?

the thing that kills me about the fmg9s is there are people that legitimately use them over a primary. Like honestly there is something screwed up when my friend uses a sniper with an acog and fmg9s so that if he gets in a range fight he has a chance but uses fmg9s 90% of the time... literally like 80% of his kills are fmg9s 10% are killstreaks or something and 10% are an acog barrett.... Shoot me now no pun intended.