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Vicarious Formerly The Pursuit Neoholic total posts: 10398 GameGrep pts: 1221 since: Apr 2006	Nov 23, 11 at 7:31pm ^ re: Will casual, mobile games damage the Vita?
	Log in to remove this advertisement quote doomed_soul89 quote The Pursuit quote doomed_soul89 quote The Pursuit Mirrors Edge was not very good TBH. But to each there own I suppose. Yes it was, the gameplay was great. It's a solid 8 easy. Why wasn't it very good? Because you sucked and died alot? It did fast paced platforming right something that hasn't been done since the original sonics, the time trials were very fun and I loved the chase scenes. Sure it could of used more polish in the graphics and the story was cut at the last second for some reason but the gameplay was solid and great. In your opinion. I thought it was sloppy and boring, the graphics were actually pretty good so I don't see any point in mentioning them. Graphics aren't that important anyways. People who have no point are always vague, like you just were, and use the opinion card like you just did. It was years ago that I played it. It just didn't feel right to me or keep me entertained so I quit playing it. That's good enough point for me my friend. ------------------- Lightning Returns:FFXIII \| Assassin's Creed III \| Final Fantasy X HD \| Kingdom Hearts 1.5 HD
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doomed_soul89 high on "N" total posts: 809 since: Oct 2011	Nov 23, 11 at 7:33pm ^ re: Will casual, mobile games damage the Vita?
	quote The Pursuit quote doomed_soul89 quote The Pursuit quote doomed_soul89 quote The Pursuit Mirrors Edge was not very good TBH. But to each there own I suppose. Yes it was, the gameplay was great. It's a solid 8 easy. Why wasn't it very good? Because you sucked and died alot? It did fast paced platforming right something that hasn't been done since the original sonics, the time trials were very fun and I loved the chase scenes. Sure it could of used more polish in the graphics and the story was cut at the last second for some reason but the gameplay was solid and great. In your opinion. I thought it was sloppy and boring, the graphics were actually pretty good so I don't see any point in mentioning them. Graphics aren't that important anyways. People who have no point are always vague, like you just were, and use the opinion card like you just did. It was years ago that I played it. It just didn't feel right to me or keep me entertained so I quit playing it. That's good enough point for me my friend. Not for saying it's a bad game, if someone doesn't like platformers they have no business calling a platformer a bad game, especially one they probably quit before even learning the controls.
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Vicarious Formerly The Pursuit Neoholic total posts: 10398 GameGrep pts: 1221 since: Apr 2006	Nov 23, 11 at 7:40pm ^ re: Will casual, mobile games damage the Vita?
	quote doomed_soul89 quote The Pursuit quote doomed_soul89 quote The Pursuit quote doomed_soul89 quote The Pursuit Mirrors Edge was not very good TBH. But to each there own I suppose. Yes it was, the gameplay was great. It's a solid 8 easy. Why wasn't it very good? Because you sucked and died alot? It did fast paced platforming right something that hasn't been done since the original sonics, the time trials were very fun and I loved the chase scenes. Sure it could of used more polish in the graphics and the story was cut at the last second for some reason but the gameplay was solid and great. In your opinion. I thought it was sloppy and boring, the graphics were actually pretty good so I don't see any point in mentioning them. Graphics aren't that important anyways. People who have no point are always vague, like you just were, and use the opinion card like you just did. It was years ago that I played it. It just didn't feel right to me or keep me entertained so I quit playing it. That's good enough point for me my friend. Not for saying it's a bad game, if someone doesn't like platformers they have no business calling a platformer a bad game, especially one they probably quit before even learning the controls. Your right maybe I did have no right to call it a bad game if I just personally didn't like it. Even though I still don't see the appeal in how it was technically very good. Maybe if they made a sequel with a better story and finer polished gameplay that didn't get so tedious and boring then I could call it a good game personally. Also I bea the storyline because I had nothing better to do at the time. But at the point at hand I think that casual gaming might damage it a tad but the people who tend to go towards casual gaming are well... Casual gamers. And the vita is for people who are into te more hardcore gaming scene. That's why I don't think it will interfere to much. ------------------- Lightning Returns:FFXIII \| Assassin's Creed III \| Final Fantasy X HD \| Kingdom Hearts 1.5 HD
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webby The Ace of shut your damn mouth!!!! Resident Neo total posts: 2633 since: Jun 2004	Nov 23, 11 at 7:43pm ^ re: Will casual, mobile games damage the Vita?
	quote doomed_soul89 Wow you need to learn to read. The study doesn't say they would rather play on their phones just that they'd rather play casual (ie crappy) games on their phones. Also again aside from minis which not even Sony takes seriously, Sony has next to no casual games for Vita and it's draw is obviously it's real games so again I fail to see how people rather playing angry birds on their phone hurts vita. As for people like you, you don't care about real games anyways even if you brought a vita you probably wouldn't buy any games so I really don't see Sony caring about people like you who aren't interested in real games. Also you calling Mirror's Edge garbage just proves that you don't care about gameplay in the least. The gameplay and the game is great. You are obviously just a graphics whore. Oh dear, captain knee jerk reaction strikes again. I try to move on and have a reasonable discussion with you but again you resort to laboured insults without any evidence to back your claims. Way to go man, your mother would be proud! And now you're attacking other people for having a different opinion to you... once again, kudos. quote The Pursuit Mirrors Edge was not very good TBH. But to each there own I suppose. I wasn't saying it was good, I was saying at least it was something different. It may have not worked out as intended but still, they tried it at least. ------------------- These are hard times for innocent bystanders
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doomed_soul89 high on "N" total posts: 809 since: Oct 2011	Nov 23, 11 at 7:44pm ^ re: Will casual, mobile games damage the Vita?
	quote The Pursuit Your right maybe I did have no right to call it a bad game if I just personally didn't like it. Even though I still don't see the appeal in how it was technically very good. Maybe if they made a sequel with a better story and finer polished gameplay that didn't get so tedious and boring then I could call it a good game personally. Also I bea the storyline because I had nothing better to do at the time. But at the point at hand I think that casual gaming might damage it a tad but the people who tend to go towards casual gaming are well... Casual gamers. And the vita is for people who are into te more hardcore gaming scene. That's why I don't think it will interfere to much. The gameplay was refined atleast the platforming which was the core of game, the combat needed a bit of work but was pretty good and the shooting doesn't really matter in that game. You have yet to say what specifically about it you didn't like. Also you are the first to call Mirror's Edge boring that I have seen, and I read negative and positive reviews before buying it. So yeah I'm thinking you just don't like platformers. Least we are in agreement on that, though I really don't think vita will take any noticeable or significant hit from phones.
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doomed_soul89 high on "N" total posts: 809 since: Oct 2011	Nov 23, 11 at 7:47pm ^ re: Will casual, mobile games damage the Vita?
	quote webby quote doomed_soul89 Wow you need to learn to read. The study doesn't say they would rather play on their phones just that they'd rather play casual (ie crappy) games on their phones. Also again aside from minis which not even Sony takes seriously, Sony has next to no casual games for Vita and it's draw is obviously it's real games so again I fail to see how people rather playing angry birds on their phone hurts vita. As for people like you, you don't care about real games anyways even if you brought a vita you probably wouldn't buy any games so I really don't see Sony caring about people like you who aren't interested in real games. Also you calling Mirror's Edge garbage just proves that you don't care about gameplay in the least. The gameplay and the game is great. You are obviously just a graphics whore. Oh dear, captain knee jerk reaction strikes again. I try to move on and have a reasonable discussion with you but again you resort to laboured insults without any evidence to back your claims. Way to go man, your mother would be proud! And now you're attacking other people for having a different opinion to you... once again, kudos. quote The Pursuit Mirrors Edge was not very good TBH. But to each there own I suppose. I wasn't saying it was good, I was saying at least it was something different. It may have not worked out as intended but still, they tried it at least. You're the one stopping the discussion to insult me. Also how was Mirror's Edge bad or didn't turn out right? They dropped the ball on the stroy but the gameplay was solid and anyone who likes fast paced platformers would like Mirror's Edge.
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Vicarious Formerly The Pursuit Neoholic total posts: 10398 GameGrep pts: 1221 since: Apr 2006	Nov 23, 11 at 8:05pm ^ re: Will casual, mobile games damage the Vita?
	quote doomed_soul89 quote webby quote doomed_soul89 Wow you need to learn to read. The study doesn't say they would rather play on their phones just that they'd rather play casual (ie crappy) games on their phones. Also again aside from minis which not even Sony takes seriously, Sony has next to no casual games for Vita and it's draw is obviously it's real games so again I fail to see how people rather playing angry birds on their phone hurts vita. As for people like you, you don't care about real games anyways even if you brought a vita you probably wouldn't buy any games so I really don't see Sony caring about people like you who aren't interested in real games. Also you calling Mirror's Edge garbage just proves that you don't care about gameplay in the least. The gameplay and the game is great. You are obviously just a graphics whore. Oh dear, captain knee jerk reaction strikes again. I try to move on and have a reasonable discussion with you but again you resort to laboured insults without any evidence to back your claims. Way to go man, your mother would be proud! And now you're attacking other people for having a different opinion to you... once again, kudos. quote The Pursuit Mirrors Edge was not very good TBH. But to each there own I suppose. I wasn't saying it was good, I was saying at least it was something different. It may have not worked out as intended but still, they tried it at least. You're the one stopping the discussion to insult me. Also how was Mirror's Edge bad or didn't turn out right? They dropped the ball on the stroy but the gameplay was solid and anyone who likes fast paced platformers would like Mirror's Edge. The sad thing is your right. But out of everything it had only one part of it was good and only for people who were already of fan of that style. Thats not really proving it to be a good game man . Just a sub-par one. But I digress, I dont really have tge right to just insult what you like. Plus not on this forum. You can Pm me for more of a discussion if you want doomed_soul89 ------------------- Lightning Returns:FFXIII \| Assassin's Creed III \| Final Fantasy X HD \| Kingdom Hearts 1.5 HD
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webby The Ace of shut your damn mouth!!!! Resident Neo total posts: 2633 since: Jun 2004	Nov 23, 11 at 8:08pm ^ re: Will casual, mobile games damage the Vita?
	quote doomed_soul89 You're the one stopping the discussion to insult me. Also how was Mirror's Edge bad or didn't turn out right? They dropped the ball on the stroy but the gameplay was solid and anyone who likes fast paced platformers would like Mirror's Edge. I'm yet to insult you as it happens, but I digress. The game is bad because it's a first person platformer and that never turns out well. Plus, you spend chunks of time climbing leading you to be staring at a wall. You have to spend time to turn and look where you're jumping when climbing (which you don't in a 3rd person game) and in tense chases that leads to you getting destroyed. The combat is awful but at times you're forced into it. The story is awful. These are the reasons I disliked it anyway, if you enjoyed it then fine, but my opinion is just as valid as yours. EDIT: I also loved the original sonic games which were very much "fast paced platformers" I did not enjoy Mirror's Edge though... ------------------- These are hard times for innocent bystanders
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doomed_soul89 high on "N" total posts: 809 since: Oct 2011	Nov 23, 11 at 8:09pm ^ re: Will casual, mobile games damage the Vita?
	quote The Pursuit The sad thing is your right. But out of everything it had only one part of it was god and only for people who were already of fan of that style. Thats not really proving it to be a good game man . Just a sub-par one. And by that one thing you mean the entire core gameplay... Also the level layout and the time trials were all good too. The story often doesn't matter at all in games and the shooting was good enough and the combat was good when you had momentum and okay when you didn't. Also someone who doesn't like shooters isn't going to like almost all shooters, someone who doesn't like fighters isn't going to like almost all figheters... so saying only fans of the genre like the game isn't really a knock to it. Only great games (or games that alienate the ones who do like the genre but lets table that for now) get people who don't like the genre to like the game and Mirror's Edge wasn't great but it was good.
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doomed_soul89 high on "N" total posts: 809 since: Oct 2011	Nov 23, 11 at 8:15pm ^ re: Will casual, mobile games damage the Vita?
	quote webby I'm yet to insult you as it happens, but I digress. The game is bad because it's a first person platformer and that never turns out well. Plus, you spend chunks of time climbing leading you to be staring at a wall. You have to spend time to turn and look where you're jumping when climbing (which you don't in a 3rd person game) and in tense chases that leads to you getting destroyed. The combat is awful but at times you're forced into it. The story is awful. These are the reasons I disliked it anyway, if you enjoyed it then fine, but my opinion is just as valid as yours. EDIT: I also loved the original sonic games which were very much "fast paced platformers" I did not enjoy Mirror's Edge though... 1. Whats your knock on the time trials? 2. The reason the buttons you need are mapped to the shoulders are so you can look while moving, I personally could always find out where to go before I hit a wall so you just seem to slow for fast paced platformers. 3. The runners vision told you exactly where to go, if you can't find your way even with it then you have a problem. 4. It's only an issue in tense chases if you suck. 5. The combat is okay, not great but definitely not awful, again I think you are just too slow to do it properly. I managed to beat the 4 running enemies in their own compound. 6. The story is meh, I watched all the backstory first which was way better so it made the overall story a little better, but most games have a horrible story. The only reason for you not liking it seems to be you sucked at it.
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webby The Ace of shut your damn mouth!!!! Resident Neo total posts: 2633 since: Jun 2004	Nov 23, 11 at 8:21pm ^ re: Will casual, mobile games damage the Vita?
	quote doomed_soul89 The only reason for you not liking it seems to be you sucked at it. Again with the insults with no back up... way to go. I finished the game on the highest difficulty, those flaws are what stood out at me. I didn't enjoy the game, saying I suck won't change that and doesn't stop other people not enjoying it. I'm amused that you seem to be really angry at everyone who disagrees with you, how do you cope in the real world? I also don't like the Elder Scrolls games (including Skyrim), shock horror dude, different people like different things, grow up and deal with it. Gaming quality is subjective and therefore open to individual opinion, no game ever has been objectively good since you will always find someone who hates it. This has nothing to do with mobile phones stealing sales from the Vita though so we are massively off topic. ------------------- These are hard times for innocent bystanders
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Aurora moderator Neoseeker Beta Forum total posts: 12002 since: Jun 2004	Nov 23, 11 at 8:27pm ^ re: Will casual, mobile games damage the Vita?
	doomed_soul89, not everyone holds the same opinions as you. In some cases, things are just a matter of taste, and in many such cases, no one is wrong. Anyway, this most certainly isn't the Mirror's Edge forum, so let's move back onto more relevant matters.
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Wakaman Whoop De Whoop, Whoop De Whoop Whoop! Seeketh Maximus total posts: 5981 since: Jul 2010	Nov 23, 11 at 9:46pm ^ re: Will casual, mobile games damage the Vita?
	For the most part I don't see the Vita as made for hardcore gamers and such.Games like Little Deviants aren't really hardcore.They seem to have a good balance of casual games thrown in the mix.Also the gaming industry I believe is one that has had a low impact from the economic situation so this shouldn't be a problem.I mean just look at what Skyrim and MW3 made in a business week. ------------------- quote Asyilem What? Me? Of course not. I only violate Wakaman's posts. Join the Vita Forum/FF XIII-2 Forum/Resident Evil 6 Forum/Dragon's Dogma Forum/New Super Mario Bros. 2 Forum
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doomed_soul89 high on "N" total posts: 809 since: Oct 2011	Nov 23, 11 at 9:53pm ^ re: Will casual, mobile games damage the Vita?
	quote Aurora doomed_soul89, not everyone holds the same opinions as you. In some cases, things are just a matter of taste, and in many such cases, no one is wrong. Anyway, this most certainly isn't the Mirror's Edge forum, so let's move back onto more relevant matters. No I just explain why people's opinions are wrong when they are and get attacked for it. quote Wakaman For the most part I don't see the Vita as made for hardcore gamers and such.Games like Little Deviants aren't really hardcore.They seem to have a good balance of casual games thrown in the mix.Also the gaming industry I believe is one that has had a low impact from the economic situation so this shouldn't be a problem.I mean just look at what Skyrim and MW3 made in a business week. Now we get into the whole, casual and hardcore are horrible terms. Little deviants might not be blood guts and action packed but it certainly has more depth and requires more skill and concentration then mobile games from what I've seen despite the concept and art style. This message was merged with other messages by Aurora (moderator)
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Aurora moderator Neoseeker Beta Forum total posts: 12002 since: Jun 2004	Nov 23, 11 at 10:03pm ^ re: Will casual, mobile games damage the Vita?
	quote doomed_soul89 quote Aurora doomed_soul89, not everyone holds the same opinions as you. In some cases, things are just a matter of taste, and in many such cases, no one is wrong. Anyway, this most certainly isn't the Mirror's Edge forum, so let's move back onto more relevant matters. No I just explain why people's opinions are wrong when they are and get attacked for it. That's most of the problem. People have opinions, often ones mostly based on instinct (e.g. whether or not they like a game), and arguing why you think they're wrong isn't going to change anything. They have their reasons for disliking it, and you have your reasons for liking it. Your opinion isn't necessarily more correct then theirs. Seriously dude, just leave it, and agree to disagree. It's a waste of time to squabble over something so subjective. If you MUST challenge someone's personal opinion directly and drag out a circular debate over pages upon pages of messages, then do it over PM. Not in here. quote Wakaman For the most part I don't see the Vita as made for hardcore gamers and such.Games like Little Deviants aren't really hardcore.They seem to have a good balance of casual games thrown in the mix.Also the gaming industry I believe is one that has had a low impact from the economic situation so this shouldn't be a problem.I mean just look at what Skyrim and MW3 made in a business week. The PSV and PSP have lots of games which are accessible to casual gamers. In fact, most games try to appeal to casual AND hardcore gamers, like Skyrim and MW3.
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