quote Rimssky
First off dont get me wrong I really enjoy Skyrim. I have already spent 50 hours playing it. I love the new combat system, And I really LOVE the fact that the world does NOT level with you. But here are some things I feel oblivion had that skyrim does not. Can You think of anything you also Miss from Oblivion?
1. NPC immersion in the world, in oblivion and Morrowind you had the option to talk with EVERY NPC.( Now mind you a lot of them said the same things over and over) But you had the option to speak with everyone and anyone, you could ask anyone you saw about "rumors" or the latest topics etc.
2. NPC immersion with quests. In Oblivion I LOVED to see peoples reaction when completing a quest I loved to hear how they felt about it, specially if I did something they didn't approve of. Now in Skyrim you can complete a quest and you barely hear anything from the NPCS regarding there thoughts and feelings. Normally they say something like " Thankyou so much I will never forget this." But soon as the conversation is over they DO forget and its as if it never happened.
I remember in oblivion when I cleared this woman's house full of animals who where attacking her pet rats. 50 hours later I came back to her house, and she started going on again about how thankful she was and how happy, and that thanks to me she got some new pet rats. And then the whole town was happy because the gross creatures were no longer in her house.. From completing that small question I got a longstanding reaction from the quest giver and the entire town....
There was ALWAYS reactions for what you did in oblivion, when you finished the main story people would call you the hero and would thank you, When you finish the main quest in skyrim nothing really changes. When you become the leader of the mag es guild people sill tell you how you should get check out the mage's hall.... as if you never have been there.
3. You cannot pick up everything. In morrowind and oblivion there was no such thing as a box you couldn't open, I am so tierd of going through houses and caves seeing these huge box type object that are just decoration.
4. Medium armor and 2 ring slots...
5. The towns are boring and somewhat lifeless because of the lack of dialogue you are allowed to have with NPCS.. In oblivion I enjoyed searching and stealing from every store and house.
6.The guild quests are extremely short and the stories aren't very interesting.
7. I cannot stand the radiant quest system, I rather have fewer quest with purpose and story than a butch of " kill, fetch, rescue" missions that never end.
8. Which brings me to my next point, oblivion had unique quests, skyrim has a couple but not very many. In oblivion you had quests that involved solving crimes, detective work, spying on people, discovering who the murderer was, diplomatic things etc. There were a lot of quests that did NOT take you to a dungeon to fetch or kill something. You never knew what to expect with your quests in oblivion.. In skyrim you almost always know what to expect.
9. Journal entries! That was one of the big things that set the elder scrols apart from other games.. The journal entries made you feel like a real person in a real world on a adventure, now all of that is taken away and you are given a pointer.... Its not personal at all... Before the quests where in depth enough to be written about in a journal now (other than a select few) there just objectives, and chores that dont make you feel involved at all.
10. oblivion you could almost harvest every SINGLE plant you saw, and then slowly but surely you can discover all of the abilities the plant had. In skyrim you harvest things but there is a lot less variety. And you can easily figure out all of the abilities of the plant. You dont have to earn it like in oblivion. Plus you cant create your own "special personal" potions. Also I liked haveing the mortor and option to make potions everywhere I went.
Sorry for the rant, again I enjoy skyrim and plan on beating every guild etc, its just sad to me that most of what I loved about oblivion and morrowind has been dumbed down in skyrim. It feels more like a adventure game than a immersive world that I want to help.
1) The rumors were always the exact same 7-10 things, sure they changed as you completed different quests and went to different areas of the world, but that's about all I can give you in regards to this, I think in reality some people don't want to talk and would rather not share any gossip / rumors.
2) That lady with the pet rats was actually involved in a Fighters Guild quest, I don't think it's very significant if quest starters remember things. Now a huge step up would be if, for example, you went into a tavern and witnessed a random brawl ( one that wasn't scripted.. this happened to me before ) and you assist one of them in the fight, the one you helped would actually remember this in the future, that'd be sweet, but unfortunately that's not here ( skyrim ) nor there ( older elder scrolls games ).
3) Agreed with this one I suppose, I remember there was either a Thieves Guild quest or a Dark Brotherhood quest and it led into a shipyard area, so many boxes but very few to open.
4) Can't argue with this one really, at least your clothes match?
5) You can pretty much search and steal from every house in Skyrim if I remember correctly.
6) Can't argue that the Mage's guild was depressingly short, felt like nothing matters. I became Arch Mage and hardly get any recognition for it. The other guilds however are pretty freaking sweet and long, consequences come from the other ones.
7) Eh, I don't mind them. If it wasn't for radiant story, the quests would all be scripted, you know, prewritten. Radiant story brings randomness into Skyrim, I'd rather each playthrough have random and different quests, than doing the exact same boring old quests.
8) Can't argue.
9) Never cared for them then, don't care for them now. If you think about it, it's unrealistic that your character would stop what he/she is doing just to write down journal entries. Imagine going into the Dungeon of the Evil Sorcerer Babies and just as you pull the lever to release the evil babies, your character stops to write the journal entries, he/she is dead.
10) Can't argue actually, what you said here is pretty much true.
Now let's clarify some things. I sold my Xbox 360 as well as all of my games ( Skyrim being one of them ) and bought a Corsair GS700 Power supply, and ordered a Sapphire 7850 OC edition ( should be coming here within the next 2 or 3 days hopefully ). One of the games I'll get for the PC is Skyrim. Let it be known that the graphics in the PC version are far superior than the Console versions, and let it be known that the PC version has mods that pretty much fix / counter just about every single one of your 10 points.
