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Army_Man92 I hope I die before I get old... Resident Neo total posts: 2612 since: Sep 2004	Dec 23, 11 at 12:18am ^ Greek Mythology in Lore
	Log in to remove this sponsored message So having completed most of the main storyline, I realize that my man Todd Howard stole the entire main storyline from Greek mythology. So, you have Paarthurnax, a dragon, and he teaches humans how to shout. ...That's obviously an allegory to Prometheus teaching humans how to make fire. Then you have a battle between the dragons and humans, with Paarthurnax helping the humans. ...Battle of the Titans verse gods verse humans, with Prometheus helping humans and then he gets chained to to the mountain and have the eagle eat his liver out every day. Anyone else see the obvious theft of ideas? ------------------- A tactical, intellectual FPS that's developed by the U.S. Army and is free to play: Check out America's Army 3.
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Alcatraz in the end It doesn't even matter forum fever total posts: 366 since: Jul 2011	Dec 23, 11 at 1:41am ^ re: Greek Mythology in Lore
	i dont think paarthurnax has his liver eaten out lol but the 2 do sound like each other
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Kommando Methodical Wildchild. Still Seekin' since: Mar 2008	Dec 23, 11 at 2:37am ^ re: Greek Mythology in Lore
	1st one: possibly 2nd one: No Personally, I get more of a Norse myth vibe in Skyrim, but that's just me. ------------------- "You know what video games need more of these days? Violence". - Yahtzee
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U_Turn True Addiction since: Apr 2003	Dec 23, 11 at 2:44am ^ re: Greek Mythology in Lore
	Paarthurnax lives on in my game, I decided not to kill him. ------------------- "The lips of wisdom are closed, except to the ears of Understanding."
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Animatrix laughplay smilekill s-e-e-k-e-r total posts: 1629 since: Jun 2003	Dec 23, 11 at 4:41am ^ re: Greek Mythology in Lore
	quote Army_Man92 So having completed most of the main storyline, I realize that my man Todd Howard stole the entire main storyline from Greek mythology. So, you have Paarthurnax, a dragon, and he teaches humans how to shout. ...That's obviously an allegory to Prometheus teaching humans how to make fire. Then you have a battle between the dragons and humans, with Paarthurnax helping the humans. ...Battle of the Titans verse gods verse humans, with Prometheus helping humans and then he gets chained to to the mountain and have the eagle eat his liver out every day. Anyone else see the obvious theft of ideas? Paarthurnax didn't teach the Nords to shout. Kynareth taught man to fight back against Alduin and his dragons. She gave them the ability to speak the language of the dragons. And Akatosh embraced her attempts to save humanity by giving his blood to St. Alessia[after they made a pact to keep Daedra out of the mortal realm] who in turn received the Red Diamond found inside the Amulet of Kings which is used to light the Dragonfires. And so, Akatosh's blood spread on through man from Emperor to Empress and so on until Martin, the final Dragonborn gave his life to stop Mehrunes Dagon. BUT at some point in Martin's life as a priest of Akatosh in Kvatch, he had to of had an affair or had a child with a woman who then sent the child off which results in the Dragonborn appearing 200 years of so later in Skyrim..[this is my guess] ------------------- I am a monument to all of your sins..
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NightWolve777 Neophyte total posts: 22 since: Oct 2009	Dec 23, 11 at 4:43am ^ re: Greek Mythology in Lore
	I wouldn't really call it a theft of ideas since several games out there have similar references, but I would call it more of a background or base to expand on.
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deeley21 ultra seeker total posts: 1359 since: Nov 2009	Dec 23, 11 at 4:45am ^ re: Greek Mythology in Lore
	Animatrix your theory is sound, except that how could Martins ancestor be a Khajiit? Or Argonian? Or any form of Elf for that matter? Back on-topic, i'd be impressed if Bethesda came up with a completely original storyline as its all been done before somewhere along the lines.
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Animatrix laughplay smilekill s-e-e-k-e-r total posts: 1629 since: Jun 2003	Dec 23, 11 at 4:58am ^ re: Greek Mythology in Lore
	quote deeley21 Animatrix your theory is sound, except that how could Martins ancestor be a Khajiit? Or Argonian? Or any form of Elf for that matter? Back on-topic, i'd be impressed if Bethesda came up with a completely original storyline as its all been done before somewhere along the lines. deeley21, As sick as this may sound, there is something called interracial relationships. So at some point in time a human/elf screwed an Argonian/Khajiit[if your Dragonborn was that race, of course]. And the races of TES aren't like our own in reality, there wouldn't be deformities or messed up looking creatures because the races of Nirn are made in the images of the Divines. The resulted child of interracial breeding would take specific genes from the mother and the father, mainly taking appearance dominated genes from one main partner. So the baby could come out Argonian or Redguard, not a mix of both, BUT the Redguard could take on the resist disease and poison traits since those aren't appearance dominated more so, internally dominated. This concept was most likely adapted to explain why the player can choose a Khajiit or Argonian to play as. ------------------- I am a monument to all of your sins..
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Axe The Good Admiral (moderator) PlayStation Vita [vita] total posts: 4996 since: Apr 2010	Dec 23, 11 at 5:08am ^ re: Greek Mythology in Lore
	quote Animatrix quote Army_Man92 So having completed most of the main storyline, I realize that my man Todd Howard stole the entire main storyline from Greek mythology. So, you have Paarthurnax, a dragon, and he teaches humans how to shout. ...That's obviously an allegory to Prometheus teaching humans how to make fire. Then you have a battle between the dragons and humans, with Paarthurnax helping the humans. ...Battle of the Titans verse gods verse humans, with Prometheus helping humans and then he gets chained to to the mountain and have the eagle eat his liver out every day. Anyone else see the obvious theft of ideas? Paarthurnax didn't teach the Nords to shout. Kynareth taught man to fight back against Alduin and his dragons. She gave them the ability to speak the language of the dragons. And Akatosh embraced her attempts to save humanity by giving his blood to St. Alessia[after they made a pact to keep Daedra out of the mortal realm] who in turn received the Red Diamond found inside the Amulet of Kings which is used to light the Dragonfires. And so, Akatosh's blood spread on through man from Emperor to Empress and so on until Martin, the final Dragonborn gave his life to stop Mehrunes Dagon. BUT at some point in Martin's life as a priest of Akatosh in Kvatch, he had to of had an affair or had a child with a woman who then sent the child off which results in the Dragonborn appearing 200 years of so later in Skyrim..[this is my guess] Wouldn't it make sense for there to have been more than one Dragonborn though? Unless something in the game itself says otherwise about that possibility. And I've gotten more of a Norse vibe from Skyrim too instead of a Greek one. Maybe it's just the setting. ------------------- PS Vita General Forum
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Animatrix laughplay smilekill s-e-e-k-e-r total posts: 1629 since: Jun 2003	Dec 23, 11 at 5:20am ^ re: Greek Mythology in Lore
	quote Axe Wouldn't it make sense for there to have been more than one Dragonborn though? Unless something in the game itself says otherwise about that possibility. This is also a probable case, but realistically Dragonblood couldn't be passed down without actually having it in your bloodline unless Akatosh himself blessed specific children when they were being birthed or became of age. After Alessia became Empress, every single Tamrielic ruler was Dragonborn. Mainly because only a Dragonborn can wear the Amulet of Kings and light the Dragonfires which close off Oblivion from Mundus. ------------------- I am a monument to all of your sins..
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HisServant77 Be the moon... seek-o-holic total posts: 881 GameGrep pts: 3693 since: May 2002	Dec 23, 11 at 5:21am ^ re: Greek Mythology in Lore
	I think it's kinda silly to call it theft of ideas, since just about all stories that pit good versus evil could be deemed theft.... ------------------- Unashamed to be a Christian! My PSN Name is Reverend_M
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Axe The Good Admiral (moderator) PlayStation Vita [vita] total posts: 4996 since: Apr 2010	Dec 23, 11 at 5:22am ^ re: Greek Mythology in Lore
	quote Animatrix quote Axe Wouldn't it make sense for there to have been more than one Dragonborn though? Unless something in the game itself says otherwise about that possibility. This is also a probable case, but realistically Dragonblood couldn't be passed down without actually having it in your bloodline unless Akatosh himself blessed specific children when they were being birthed or became of age. After Alessia became Empress, every single Tamrielic ruler was Dragonborn. Mainly because only a Dragonborn can wear the Amulet of Kings and light the Dragonfires which close off Oblivion from Mundus. Maybe Akatosh blessed a few people at once with it, and it's passed down through the centuries. After all, it's not like any of them could have known. ------------------- PS Vita General Forum
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gta4roks Katawa Shoujo = Gallons of Tears high on "N" total posts: 740 since: Dec 2009	Dec 23, 11 at 5:45am ^ re: Greek Mythology in Lore
	Wait a second. I know this was part of the prophecy and all but, listen. The Champion of Cyrodiil was a normal person. They weren't blessed by the gods or chosen, but they followed through with what Uriel told him/her and helped Martin seal the gates. ------------------- It certainly is a rarity that my signatures are clever at all, hehehe.
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Animatrix laughplay smilekill s-e-e-k-e-r total posts: 1629 since: Jun 2003	Dec 23, 11 at 5:58am ^ re: Greek Mythology in Lore
	quote gta4roks Wait a second. I know this was part of the prophecy and all but, listen. The Champion of Cyrodiil was a normal person. They weren't blessed by the gods or chosen, but they followed through with what Uriel told him/her and helped Martin seal the gates. The "Heroes" of TES games aren't Dragonborn. The only officially playable Dragonborn is in Skyrim.. And EACH hero was chosen, they were destined to one day do what they were created to do. [Stop Dagon, Close the Oblivion Gates, Conquer the Arena and acquire the Totem etc.] Uriel Septim saw the Champion of Cyrodiil in his dreams, he says this when he first sees you in the prison cell that the secret door is located in. He states that the Gods blessed him with this dream so that he would remember your face on that day and release you to carry out your bidding for the Gods. Each Hero in each TES game[besides the Battlespire and Redguard spin-off games] has ushered in the next event leading up to Alduin's return.. it was predetermined and written in the Elder Scrolls themselves. ------------------- I am a monument to all of your sins..
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gta4roks Katawa Shoujo = Gallons of Tears high on "N" total posts: 740 since: Dec 2009	Dec 23, 11 at 6:05am ^ re: Greek Mythology in Lore
	Right, I know that, but the prophecy was never completed, Alduin was never truly defeated by the Dragonborn, only cast away in time like the Ancient Tounges did. So all that lead to the Alduin's Return, but he was never really defeated. What now? More prophetic events that will lead to the second return? Or will the next elder scroll be written, and another final event in another prophecy take place? ------------------- It certainly is a rarity that my signatures are clever at all, hehehe.
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