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DarkHalo003 not-such-a-newbie total posts: 44 since: Jun 2011	Jun 10, 11 at 6:57pm ^ Impression: Overpowered characters
	Log in to remove this sponsored message I posted this because I'm kind of angry about how several characters are overpowered. Primarily of these is Kefka and in some scenarios Shantotto. Kefka has an incredibly potent palette of HP and Bravery attacks, most of which are unavoidable half of the time. His Null Void attack is HORRIBLY unbalanced as an HP attack. His other attacks of a deceptively unbalanced range in comparison to many other characters and the only way to beat the AI I've found is to play cat & mouse. Evade then strike, evade then try to strike, and then get hit by Havoc Wing or dodge the attack and then get hit again by Havoc Wing a second later. Kefka can be balanced though by making a larger gap between when he can administer HP attacks, like almost every other character. Shantotto is bearable, but I still feel some of his abilities should have been balanced. He can stop you almost anywhere then bash you with any HP attack. He has the same issue as Kefka where he can spit off potent spells (notice I said potent) rapidly and dodge basically anything. I'm not sure how to balance Shantotto, mainly because he can dodge everything and spit of spells rapidly, but he'd also be a little next to underpowered if he couldn't do that. Also, his dialogue is unbelievably annoying. Just saying.
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Two_Step They call me Doctor Worm threadnought since: Jul 2009	Jun 10, 11 at 10:39pm ^ re: Impression: Overpowered characters
	I dreaded fighting Kuja. His combos never ended and his HP attacks are not even fair. I don't get it though. He wasn't THAT strong in the original Dissidia, so I don't understand this overwhelming plwer boost for him. Gilgamesh is also a bitch. His attack patterns seem really random to me, and I can never guess what he is going to do.
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Rabla May your tomorrow bE a nICE daY As wEll. Neolithic total posts: 6594 neopoints: 245 GameGrep pts: 467 since: Jul 2008	Jun 11, 11 at 2:49am ^ re: Impression: Overpowered characters
	quote DarkHalo003 Shantotto is bearable, but I still feel some of his abilities should have been balanced. He can stop you almost anywhere then bash you with any HP attack. He has the same issue as Kefka where he can spit off potent spells (notice I said potent) rapidly and dodge basically anything. I'm not sure how to balance Shantotto, mainly because he can dodge everything and spit of spells rapidly, but he'd also be a little next to underpowered if he couldn't do that. Also, his dialogue is unbelievably annoying. Just saying. This is hilarious. quote Two_Step Gilgamesh is also a bitch. His attack patterns seem really random to me, and I can never guess what he is going to do. That's the point. Gilgy's designed to be the 'Random Character'. Not even the Player has an entire idea of what he'll do next. ------------------- - DEVIL SURVIVOR 2 THE ANIMATION -
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DarkHalo003 not-such-a-newbie total posts: 44 since: Jun 2011	Jun 11, 11 at 3:34am ^ re: Impression: Overpowered characters
	quote Rabla quote DarkHalo003 Shantotto is bearable, but I still feel some of his abilities should have been balanced. He can stop you almost anywhere then bash you with any HP attack. He has the same issue as Kefka where he can spit off potent spells (notice I said potent) rapidly and dodge basically anything. I'm not sure how to balance Shantotto, mainly because he can dodge everything and spit of spells rapidly, but he'd also be a little next to underpowered if he couldn't do that. Also, his dialogue is unbelievably annoying. Just saying. This is hilarious. quote Two_Step Gilgamesh is also a bitch. His attack patterns seem really random to me, and I can never guess what he is going to do. That's the point. Gilgy's designed to be the 'Random Character'. Not even the Player has an entire idea of what he'll do next. I looked at Shantotto's picture during a loading screen fort a fight and I realize that he is a she. Whoops. If its any consolation, I have difficulty figuring out some guy characters from girl characters at first glance if their made by Square. I still ponder a lot of the asexual and relatively feminine designs for a lot of the male characters.
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Two_Step They call me Doctor Worm threadnought since: Jul 2009	Jun 11, 11 at 6:37am ^ re: Impression: Overpowered characters
	quote Rabla quote DarkHalo003 Shantotto is bearable, but I still feel some of his abilities should have been balanced. He can stop you almost anywhere then bash you with any HP attack. He has the same issue as Kefka where he can spit off potent spells (notice I said potent) rapidly and dodge basically anything. I'm not sure how to balance Shantotto, mainly because he can dodge everything and spit of spells rapidly, but he'd also be a little next to underpowered if he couldn't do that. Also, his dialogue is unbelievably annoying. Just saying. This is hilarious. quote Two_Step Gilgamesh is also a bitch. His attack patterns seem really random to me, and I can never guess what he is going to do. That's the point. Gilgy's designed to be the 'Random Character'. Not even the Player has an entire idea of what he'll do next. I never really knew that Oh well.
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DarkHalo003 not-such-a-newbie total posts: 44 since: Jun 2011	Jun 11, 11 at 2:41pm ^ re: Impression: Overpowered characters
	quote Two_Step quote Rabla quote DarkHalo003 Shantotto is bearable, but I still feel some of his abilities should have been balanced. He can stop you almost anywhere then bash you with any HP attack. He has the same issue as Kefka where he can spit off potent spells (notice I said potent) rapidly and dodge basically anything. I'm not sure how to balance Shantotto, mainly because he can dodge everything and spit of spells rapidly, but he'd also be a little next to underpowered if he couldn't do that. Also, his dialogue is unbelievably annoying. Just saying. This is hilarious. quote Two_Step Gilgamesh is also a bitch. His attack patterns seem really random to me, and I can never guess what he is going to do. That's the point. Gilgy's designed to be the 'Random Character'. Not even the Player has an entire idea of what he'll do next. I never really knew that Oh well. In FFV Gilgamesh's actions make no sense at all and are completely randomized (he's the easy boss that provides comic relief). I wish Square would have made the AI generally goof-up sometimes though. It would make a lot of sense on Gilgamesh's part anyways.
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Cruel Angel Thesis Purple Heart Two much Neo neopoints: 256 since: Dec 2008	Jun 14, 11 at 1:28am ^ re: Impression: Overpowered characters
	No one mentioned Golbez or even Exdeath? Seriously I get pissed when fighting them in this game... Kuja got a decent amount of tweak, damn that seraphic star.
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Sora9854 Neophyte total posts: 30 since: Mar 2011	Jun 16, 11 at 10:34pm ^ re: Impression: Overpowered characters
	quote Rabla quote DarkHalo003 Shantotto is bearable, but I still feel some of his abilities should have been balanced. He can stop you almost anywhere then bash you with any HP attack. He has the same issue as Kefka where he can spit off potent spells (notice I said potent) rapidly and dodge basically anything. I'm not sure how to balance Shantotto, mainly because he can dodge everything and spit of spells rapidly, but he'd also be a little next to underpowered if he couldn't do that. Also, his dialogue is unbelievably annoying. Just saying. This is hilarious. quote Two_Step Gilgamesh is also a bitch. His attack patterns seem really random to me, and I can never guess what he is going to do. That's the point. Gilgy's designed to be the 'Random Character'. Not even the Player has an entire idea of what he'll do next. Gilgamesh is very much a RANDOM character, since he wasn't SUMMONED by Cosmos OR Chaos, he came on his OWN will quote DarkHalo003 quote Rabla quote DarkHalo003 Shantotto is bearable, but I still feel some of his abilities should have been balanced. He can stop you almost anywhere then bash you with any HP attack. He has the same issue as Kefka where he can spit off potent spells (notice I said potent) rapidly and dodge basically anything. I'm not sure how to balance Shantotto, mainly because he can dodge everything and spit of spells rapidly, but he'd also be a little next to underpowered if he couldn't do that. Also, his dialogue is unbelievably annoying. Just saying. This is hilarious. quote Two_Step Gilgamesh is also a bitch. His attack patterns seem really random to me, and I can never guess what he is going to do. That's the point. Gilgy's designed to be the 'Random Character'. Not even the Player has an entire idea of what he'll do next. I looked at Shantotto's picture during a loading screen fort a fight and I realize that he is a she. Whoops. If its any consolation, I have difficulty figuring out some guy characters from girl characters at first glance if their made by Square. I still ponder a lot of the asexual and relatively feminine designs for a lot of the male characters. yeah when i started playing the FIRST Dissidia i thaught that Zidane and Onion knight were girls LOL This message was merged with other messages by Aurora (moderator)
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DarkHalo003 not-such-a-newbie total posts: 44 since: Jun 2011	Jun 17, 11 at 2:21am ^ re: Impression: Overpowered characters
	quote Cruel Angel Thesis No one mentioned Golbez or even Exdeath? Seriously I get pissed when fighting them in this game... Kuja got a decent amount of tweak, damn that seraphic star. I hate ExDeath fights, especially when all he does is teleport around the level and chuckle. I think Golbez is fine though. As long as you have a good dodging reaction, he's not too bad. I hate fighting Kuja. Seraphatic Star drives me nuts. I also think Ultimecia is an utter annoyance. There is almost no balance with her considering every attack homes in on the target. If it didn't do that then I think it'd be okay to fight her. I also hate how the developers have given characters high amounts of bravery in unexpected situations, like the Labyrinth has characters under the "Low" categorization with high defense and high bravery. It's just really weird. I've been massacred by even Squall due to that.
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Cruel Angel Thesis Purple Heart Two much Neo neopoints: 256 since: Dec 2008	Jun 17, 11 at 4:10am ^ re: Impression: Overpowered characters
	Yeah I think you're right. I still don't know when to dodge that Sector Ray. I haven't tried Labyrinth yet so I cannot comment on that but Ultimecia? The only attack that is difficult to avoid is the hell's judgement. The shockwave pulsar has improved but can be easily dodged, so is apocalypse.
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DarkHalo003 not-such-a-newbie total posts: 44 since: Jun 2011	Jun 17, 11 at 4:25pm ^ re: Impression: Overpowered characters
	quote Cruel Angel Thesis Yeah I think you're right. I still don't know when to dodge that Sector Ray. I haven't tried Labyrinth yet so I cannot comment on that but Ultimecia? The only attack that is difficult to avoid is the hell's judgement. The shockwave pulsar has improved but can be easily dodged, so is apocalypse. I can agree there to an extent, though Shock Wave Pulsar infuriates me. I also hate the attack where she sends out the massive blade that homes in on you; I could try avoiding that attack every time and still get hit for some dumb reason. I also hate her bravery attacks; they're a lot like Laguna's where it's just a constant stream of nonsense.
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xXHYPERXx Waiting for the end... threadnought total posts: 683 since: Nov 2010	Jun 21, 11 at 4:37am ^ re: Impression: Overpowered characters
	Sora9854 can't really be too sure about gilgamesh, if you read his profile it sais, they are not sure if he was summoned or not. but it does seem he just drifted in from his short story lines in the Chaos Reports. The only character that annoys me is mainly Golbez/Yuna. other than that none of them really bug me at all.
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Ulti9999 Ain't nobody got time fuh dat s-e-e-k-e-r since: Oct 2009	Jun 21, 11 at 1:35pm ^ re: Impression: Overpowered characters
	Wow, Shantotto, SHANTOTTO gives you trouble? I won't even go there unless she is over level 100+ with an advanced AI in the Labyrinth. Talking about Online play, I can definitely see where some of these characters become absolutely HORRIBLE to fight against though, for instance : Gilgamesh ~ People do nothing but camp above you and spam Electrocute so they can connect with his other attacks. This kills Emperor and other mage characters, but specifically Emperor. Ultimecia ~ I'm guilty of this, the Charged Knight's Lance Spam that blocks almost ANYTHING you throw at her, is it OP? Hell no, she's needed a better keep away than Knight's Axe since Dissidia, get used to it and get around her HPs. Kefka ~ I never understood how he was a "hard" enemy until I fought one, I'm so used to playing as him. But he is REALLY annoying, annoying but not too hard unless they know how to play him. Kefkas who jump to the ceiling with Precision Jump and Jump Times Boost ++ should be feared because they know he needs space to get his WWF's out then begin the horrible pressure game with SSB. His HP's are pathetic alone, so punishable I mean really, the only one that is safe for him is Trine at a distance. Until you fight certain enemies online you can't say that they are OP. Just wait until you fight Feral Chaos online and get Via Dolorosa spammed You'll be saying Overpowered for a while. -------------------
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Sora9854 Neophyte total posts: 30 since: Mar 2011	Jun 21, 11 at 10:55pm ^ re: Impression: Overpowered characters
	quote xXHYPERXx Sora9854 can't really be too sure about gilgamesh, if you read his profile it sais, they are not sure if he was summoned or not. but it does seem he just drifted in from his short story lines in the Chaos Reports. The only character that annoys me is mainly Golbez/Yuna. other than that none of them really bug me at all. oh... i dont have Gilgamesh in the character files, but yet i can play as him... Golbez and kuja, only ones i hate fighting, maybe cloud of darkness...
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DarkHalo003 not-such-a-newbie total posts: 44 since: Jun 2011	Jun 22, 11 at 3:04am ^ re: Impression: Overpowered characters
	Though she's not really overpowered, I do hate fighting Yuna. I think Kuja is overpowered, especially once he attains Ultima and Seraph Star. I hate fighting Kefka, but only because it requires actually fighting. I also hate fighting on Omega Bahamut. That level sucks and that Pandemonium Corridors place too.
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