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yes it is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! see how much i spam....err...i mean post! its damn good!

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yea. this game is good. what ever you do buy it

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ill tell as much as i know so far
graffics are mind blowing
gameplay is amazing
the world is beyond comprehension.
people are nice and are willing to help
the game is endless..there is no end to this game.

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Jun 07, 04 at 10:17AM
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Why don't you read reveiws? They seem to get differing opinions? ;

It takes a lot of time to play, it isn't a game you can sit at for an hour, and go do something else. At later levels, it takes 1 hour - 4 hours to get a party. (Which you need to level up)

If you have the time, great, if you have the money, great. If you have the computer to support it, great.

Time and paitence is needed.

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At later levels, it takes 1 hour - 4 hours to get a party. (Which you need to level up)
This will become a problem once you are lvl 60ish, and it takes alot of time to get there. I'm currently lvl 33, and I'm been playing for almost half a year now. It does take patience, but I just mess around alot. I've had friends that started that same time I have, and they are lvl 50s in their adv jobs. So, what I'm saying is, it does take patience, but not as much that you must wait 1-4 hours to get a party going.

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No, its not any good.

The best amount of exp you can get is 200 EXP!!! THATS IT!! You have to get a party to get this much. You can get more, but you have 5 min to find a monster that can kick the crap out of you and the other party members, which takes anywhere from 2 to 3 min to find one and another 3 to 4 min to kill it, if it doesn't kill your party first. If you do that, you get 25 MORE EXP ADDED TO THAT!!! BIG DEAL!!! (that would be 225 exp).

Speaking of party members, most of the people that play this game are a*s*s*h*o*l*e*s. You have to depend on some other guy to do his job and if he/she doesn't, the whole party is screwed. And if you want to advance in the game, you have to depend on someone else.

Another huge flaw is that the game FORCES YOU TO PARTY!!! Why should I or anyone have to depend on this idiot or that idiot just to get an item for your advanced job?!? You shouldn't!!! You can solo up to Lvl 10, then you have to rely on parties to go any further, unless you are a beastmaster. This is Final Fantasy, not Pokemon!!

The economy in the game is the worst ever. If you can name anyother Final Fantasy where you had to pay 2,500 GIL FOR A (1) POTION THAT GAVE YOU 25 HPS BACK, LET ME KNOW!!

This game sucks man, just wait a week for World of Warcraft to come out. Its tons better than Final Fantasy 11 (I beta tested it) and fixed all the flaws that FFXI had. This game isn't even worthy of being called Final Fantasy, its the worst one ever. FFIX was better than this. 11 gets the "WORST GAME EVER!!!" award.

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quote Spike Spigel
No, its not any good
Yes it is.

quote Spike Spigel
The best amount of exp you can get is [b]200 EXP!!! THATS IT!! You have to get a party to get this much. You can get more, but you have 5 min to find a monster that can kick the crap out of you and the other party members, which takes anywhere from 2 to 3 min to find one and another 3 to 4 min to kill it, if it doesn't kill your party first. If you do that, you get 25 MORE EXP ADDED TO THAT!!! BIG DEAL!!! (that would be 225 exp).
Who would want to play a MMORPG where you can get to lvl 100 in just 2 hours? Extra EXP is a big deal, it makes you think strategically. I've been in parties where the average EXP after every fight was 250.

quote Spike Spigel
Speaking of party members, most of the people that play this game are a*s*s*h*o*l*e*s. You have to depend on some other guy to do his job and if he/she doesn't, the whole party is screwed. And if you want to advance in the game, you have to depend on someone else.

I don't know any FF games that just one character could beat the whole game. Even in the classic FF GB games, there was always a teammate you had to depend on to help you. Calling everyone who plays FFXI an Asshole is like calling all Asians kung-fu masters. I should know, I'm Asian and I'm only a Tae Kwon Doe master.

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Another huge flaw is that the game FORCES YOU TO PARTY!!! Why should I or anyone have to depend on this idiot or that idiot just to get an item for your advanced job?!? You shouldn't!!! You can solo up to Lvl 10, then you have to rely on parties to go any further, unless you are a beastmaster. This is Final Fantasy, not Pokemon!!
It doesn't force you to do anything. If someone sends an invite to a party, you have a choice. You can either Accept or Decline. I've know players who lvled all by themselves. Lvling yourself just takes longer than having to party. What do you have against pokemon? What about Summoners? I don't hear any complaints about summoners.


quote Spike Spigel
The economy in the game is the worst ever. If you can name anyother Final Fantasy where you had to pay 2,500 GIL FOR A (1) POTION THAT GAVE YOU 25 HPS BACK, LET ME KNOW!!
Its cause players make lot of the items. The total material cost to make these items often cost then item itself. The economy is based on real-life economy. Supply and Demand.

quote Spike Spigel
This game sucks man, just wait a week for World of Warcraft to come out. Its tons better than Final Fantasy 11 (I beta tested it) and fixed all the flaws that FFXI had. This game isn't even worthy of being called Final Fantasy, its the worst one ever. FFIX was better than this. 11 gets the "WORST GAME EVER!!!" award
WoW is the game that deserves
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"WORST GAME EVER!!!" award
Its a ripoff of FFXI. ALl Blizzard did was add blue skin to the elves and more idiotic guilds aka professions, such as mechanic & herbalism. The FFXI graphics, which are more than 2 years old, are even better then WoW All the jobs are total ripoffs of FFXI. Paladin, Hunter(Ranger)& Warlock(Red mage). If given a choice between FFXI and WoW, choose FFXI. [/b]

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Feb 10, 05 at 02:28AM
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quote SSJGOHAN4
Yes it is.
No, it is not.

quote SSJGOHAN4
Who would want to play a MMORPG where you can get to lvl 100 in just 2 hours? Extra EXP is a big deal, it makes you think strategically. I've been in parties where the average EXP after every fight was 250.


1. No where in my post did I say "You should be able to get to lvl 100 in 2 hours." Read it again. My point is that the game is pathetic if the best you can get is 200 exp (or in your case, 250 exp). Its fine at first, but when you need 50,000 exp to get to the next lvl, that is pathetic.
2. My second point is that they should've fixed it in the expansion, which they did not. Even if you ask the people who have been playing the game for a long time, 9 out of 10 will say that, "Yes, the leveling system needs a TON OF WORK! Losing %10 of your EXP from dying is not cool. What is %10 of 50,000? Close to 2,500, right? So if you die twice (and you will) and LOSE 5,000 EXP, your day is shot because you have to spend the rest of your day getting that 5,000 EXP that you lost from dying to break even for the day.
3. Killing enemies is the ONLY way to get EXP in that game. In WoW, you get EXP from killing enemies AND doing quests that you can do on your own and/or with a group. In 3 days, I got to level 15 with my Rogue (This is including work and school. If not for school and work, I probably would have been level 17-20.). Not to say that its easy because 1. Some of the quests I did to get that far required a group to make it easier and 2. It requires you to go to different areas to do different quests for different races. That means that you don't spend too much time in anyone place unlike the worst game ever. It is the same as the worst game ever as in when you get to level 11, quests that you can do on your own and quests that would be easier kinda level out to be the same amount. If the worst game ever had the same or was based on the same leveling system as WoW, I'd still be playing it. Its no wonder why I didn't get past level 14 in the worst game ever...it failed to hold my intrest. In order to go to new areas, you need to be a higher level but that won't happen for a while if you get 200 EXP or in your case 250 EXP a kill and you need 15,000 to get to a new level.

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It doesn't force you to do anything. If someone sends an invite to a party, you have a choice. You can either Accept or Decline. I've know players who lvled all by themselves. Lvling yourself just takes longer than having to party. What do you have against pokemon? What about Summoners? I don't hear any complaints about summoners.

Really? What do you call making it impossible to do quests on your own and leveling on your own? You MUST have someone to help you or have fun getting anywhere in the game. Whats that called? Forcing someone to party. You can't become a ninja unless you get a group, which usually takes 30 min to 4 hours. No complaints about summoners? Thats because a summoner had to fight a summon monster and the beastmaster has to charm or "catch" the monster in order to fight for the beastmaster.

quote SSJGOHAN4
Its cause players make lot of the items. The total material cost to make these items often cost then item itself. The economy is based on real-life economy. Supply and Demand.
Thats how much NPC's sell them. Go check it out. And if it costs that much just to make a potion when the game is stingy with money, whats the use? So what, you're saying that if a can of Coke cost $2,500 to make, thats how much one can should cost?

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WoW is the game that deserves
Not hardly, considering when it came out servers were and STILL ARE over flowing. Everyone is leaving the worst game ever and playing World of Warcraft. The game has been out since November and it most servers are still overflowing.


quote SSJGOHAN4
Its a ripoff of FFXI. ALl Blizzard did was add blue skin to the elves and more idiotic guilds aka professions, such as mechanic & herbalism. The FFXI graphics, which are more than 2 years old, are even better then WoW All the jobs are total ripoffs of FFXI. Paladin, Hunter(Ranger)& Warlock(Red mage). If given a choice between FFXI and WoW, choose FFXI.
You mean blacksmithing, engineering, skinning, leatherworking, alchemy, fishing, enchanting, tailoring, cooking, and mining. The Paladin in the worst game ever could use white mage magic and do decent damage, however, they have more of a focus on white mage magic. In WoW, paladins have the choice of going magic, strength, or *gasp* both! How is the Hunter a ripoff of the Ranger? Rangers in the worst game ever consentrate on bows and arrows. Hunters USE bows and arrows, two-handed swords, and pets. Do Rangers get to use pets in the worst game ever? No. Now for warlock. In the worst game ever, red mages used white and black mage magic. In addition, they used time spells. First off, warlocks can not heal in battle. Second, warlocks have time effects, not spells, but effects. That is, if an enemy hits you, their speed is reduced, their accuracy became lowered, something along that line. Not only that, but warlocks use abilities to make enemies run from them. Do Red Mages? No.


quote SSJGOHAN4
I don't know any FF games that just one character could beat the whole game. Even in the classic FF GB games, there was always a teammate you had to depend on to help you. Calling everyone who plays FFXI an Asshole is like calling all Asians kung-fu masters. I should know, I'm Asian and I'm only a Tae Kwon Doe master.

Again, you missed the point. In the previous FF games, you controlled all the characters, usually 3 or 4 characters at a time. YOU controlled them. Now, you have to rely on some stupidass to do his job in the worst game ever and if you they didn't, you died AND you lost EXP. In WoW, you still have to, but if they don't, you still die but you don't lose exp and thus your day isn't spent trying to gain back any lost exp since you only got 200 exp at a time or in your case 250 exp. You are punished for SOMEONE ELSE screwin' around and not doing their job in the worst game ever where as in WoW, you aren't. If you are punished for SOMEONE ELSE'S stupidity, that person is an asshole and he or she is an asshole because most of them did not care that you died and LOST EXP and in some cases, LEVELED DOWN. Hey, since you're an Asian, could you teach me Tae-Kwon-Do? I mean, you do know it, right? If you know Jeet-Kune-Do, would you teach me that instead? I did not say everyone who plays that game is an asshole but that the game is mostly populated by assholes and the reason is explained above.



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Umm.... isnt MMORPG? Uhh A really long, online game, I mean its not MMORPG when you cant rely on other people. I mean being a loner in an online game kinda sucks. Also i dont get why you guys are fighting over which is best? You guys have diffrent opinions dont you. The other likes Blizzard and the others Like Square. I mean you both Like RPGs? dont ya? Its just stupid. But MMORPG takes alot of work, I woulndt enjoy an olnine game when its short, and easy to get through, I would want a chanlenge and having friends that will rely on me and I will rely on them. Its like Reality, but I know this is a game, and reality does not apply. But this is a Final Fantasy game. It crosses bounderies. Immagine trying to get like a medicine in the real world? Woulndt be expensive? In this game well duh? you know what I mean. This games amkes yuo mad sometimes when youre dying but that just takes to more strategies and simple planning. Like if you die, it will make you change how you fight against the mosnter youre fighting with. I mean I woulndt want a monster killing me with the same mistakes. In a party off course, is fun for me, but you dont gotto do it. You could be a lonly samurai or something. But in a party is much funner thats why theres PARTIES to play in. Its a community of gamers that loves playing. And Why are you guys debating wich is better, does it matter? If you dont like you dont have to play it. And I know you have the rights to tell people not to play it but, telling them what to do is just dumb. Talking crap about this game and calling all the people playing in it A$$oles is just catagorizing youreself, as one of the good guys, and whoever playing the game are bad guys. Dont be mean, you dont have to be cruel about it. Saying crap about this game, let other people try it. Its Final Fantasy THE GAME THAT STARTED RPG's THE ONE THAT MADE OTHER PEOPLE LIKE RPG's The one who actaully made Rpg Fun. And saying Final Fantasy 11 is that bad is just stupid cuz not alot of people will listen to you cuz they would wanna try this game out anyway.

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Umm.... isnt MMORPG? Uhh A really long, online game, I mean its not MMORPG when you cant rely on other people. I mean being a loner in an online game kinda sucks. Also i dont get why you guys are fighting over which is best? You guys have diffrent opinions dont you. The other likes Blizzard and the others Like Square. I mean you both Like RPGs? dont ya? Its just stupid. But MMORPG takes alot of work, I woulndt enjoy an olnine game when its short, and easy to get through, I would want a chanlenge and having friends that will rely on me and I will rely on them. Its like Reality, but I know this is a game, and reality does not apply. But this is a Final Fantasy game. It crosses bounderies. Immagine trying to get like a medicine in the real world? Woulndt be expensive? In this game well duh? you know what I mean. This games amkes yuo mad sometimes when youre dying but that just takes to more strategies and simple planning. Like if you die, it will make you change how you fight against the mosnter youre fighting with. I mean I woulndt want a monster killing me with the same mistakes. In a party off course, is fun for me, but you dont gotto do it. You could be a lonly samurai or something. But in a party is much funner thats why theres PARTIES to play in. Its a community of gamers that loves playing. And Why are you guys debating wich is better, does it matter? If you dont like you dont have to play it. And I know you have the rights to tell people not to play it but, telling them what to do is just dumb. Talking crap about this game and calling all the people playing in it A$$oles is just catagorizing youreself, as one of the good guys, and whoever playing the game are bad guys. Dont be mean, you dont have to be cruel about it. Saying crap about this game, let other people try it. Its Final Fantasy THE GAME THAT STARTED RPG's THE ONE THAT MADE OTHER PEOPLE LIKE RPG's The one who actaully made Rpg Fun. And saying Final Fantasy 11 is that bad is just stupid cuz not alot of people will listen to you cuz they would wanna try this game out anyway.
Not gonna even waste my time explaining again. You didn't read my post.

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This game *bleep*. If you bought it, you're a moron. If your parents got it for you, it means they hate you.



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Well id have to say the game is preety good myself. The game does not FORCE YOU to party. The only reason most people party in order to gain exp is because its alot faster and alot of times its alot more fun because it not only gives you something to do with friends but its one of the best ways to meet new people and make new friends. You also DO NOT have to party in order to do alot of the quest, the reason why people party in order to do most of the quest is because they dont want to wait until their lvl is high enough in order to do the quest on their own, most quest require you to go to an area where the monsters are usually quite a bit higher lvl than you are and so yes ofcourse if you want to do a quest as soon as possible your going to find a party BUT you can always just wait until your strong enough on your own to do it...ive done it many times, im almost lvl 50 and i havent done alot of quest not because i need a party but just because i feel why rush it i can do alot of that stuff anytime. The economy does take a while to get used to but its based on real life economy and i think theyve done a pretty good job of doing so. If you need 50000 exp to get to the next lvl and you lose 2500 or even 5000 and your getting about 200 to 250 exp with every kill then whats the problem...yes i did do the math and it shouldnt take you very long to gain 5000exp back, maybe YOU should do the math. I find that most of the things that are being complained about are alot of the things that makes ffxi stand out from the rest, one of the things i like the best about it is that it IS very unique and different from other mmorpgs...who the fu@% wants to play the exact same type of game over and over and over finally someone has done something different is how i feel about it. And world of warcraft isnt bad its good also but then again its not much different from any other mmorpg you might grab off the shelf so dont expect to find any kind of new features or uniqueness out of it. Ive find that most of the time when people are complaining about a game like these guys are its usually because there not that good at it and they just dont want to put in the time to learn and get as good as they want to at the game so there response is "oh thats a horrible game dont get it".



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Ugh. Ok this game is not the worst game ever. (It's alot better than runescape let me tell you!!)

This game is a MMORPG it's suppose to hold your attention for years. Why Would I want to level to 20 in one day? The limit is 75. It makes no sense. You get roghlly an average of 200 or more exp from one monster. Which is pretty good. So you have to kill more than one monster to level.

GASP OMG! <end sacarism> Really this game is suppose to let you be able to play it without doing everything in a limited time. It's never ending ,so why would you want it to end? I see no point in getting so high leveled in one day.

No you don't have to party. For ANY OF THE JOBS! It is longer and at higher levels harder ,but yes you can do it! Trust me I have done it it's possible. You can even solo as a whm in high levels. It's just harder and longer. Partying is just better than soloing because. Less downtime ,better exp, faster. Now most quests you do not need a party at all. Most quests are to be soloed so I don't understand why you are saying I HAVE TO PARTY. YOU DON'T!

Yes items are expensive in the Auction House. Everyone knows this. As the server gets older the more expensive they get. Go get the bloody money it's not that hard to get money in this game. Trust me I know. It's just a little time consuming like everything else in this game. Which is a good thing cause it is suppose to last FOREVER! If you have a problem with an item being expensive in the AH ,then go get that item yourself instead of relying on others. It will be alot cheaper.

I am just not gunna compare this with wow ,because I havn't really played wow and you shouldn't judge too diferent games. But I personally prefer FFXI because it's longer ,graphics seem to be better, more organized and easy to use, takes longer to level.

It just really depends on what kind of game you like. You like to solo and level to 20 in one day get WOW. If you like to have a unique experence among friends having various fun and unique adventures get FFXI.

The exp lost doesn't suck either it makes it more realistic ,and yes even more time consuming. Most of the time you arn't gunna die tho if you are in a good pt. Soloing there is no one there to help you out. and it isn't that much you lose. GASP OMG. 10% of what you have to get to level isn't alot.



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This game sucks. All there is to do is level up and you have to have a party to get anywhere. I'd rather do stuff on my own. I don't have to rely on anyone to do their job and the only person I have to worry about knowing how to play their class is - me. WoW is so much better. Its got PVP, raids, dungeons, stuff like that. All there is to do in Final Fantasy 11 is level up. Thats it. I'm uninstalling it and canceling my account now and I still have 20 free days.

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