Fanboys - Page 3

I grew up as a Nintendo fanboy, but tbh most of their games aren't as appealing as they used to be.
I mean, for example, games like Donkey Kong Country never got old. I could play the hell out of the originals and never get bored of them. I started up DKCR, hoping for an amazing game. But, sadly I got bored by World 3. It took a lot of effort to finish the game. Not because of difficulty, no, there was absolutely no challenge to the game, except maybe 2-3 levels, and those levels were fun. SNES honestly has been my favorite Nintendo console so far, followed by the Gamecube.
And I'm trying to avoid the nostalgia here.

Microsoft kind of pissed me off with the three XBox 360 consoles I've had, so I've just quit on them. xD

Sony is good imo. I don't have to subscribe to an internet service that I'll only use twice a month, none of the consoles have shit on me, and I actually like some of the exclusive games. However, the only game that has come close to giving me the same satisfaction as classic Nintendo is Borderlands.
I should really start playing FF though, heard they're great.

Have yet to give PC a serious try though.

I play a lot of Nintendo consoles, but if I had to be a fanboy, I'd be a Microsoft fanboy.

Eh, Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft fanboys are EQUALLY bad. It's why I don't discuss as much as I used to in video game forums. It's specifically the fanboys that defends one company and wishes for the other two companies to parish, that pisses me off greatly. It's pretty damn foolish to wish harm for any company.

I personally have zero interest in Microsoft's consoles and its games, but it's the complete opposite for Nintendo(more so this company) and Sony. With that said, I still wish for nothing but success for Microsoft in the video game industry.

I also will say that fanboys of specific franchises are MUCH worse than fanboys loyal to a company. I won't go into specifics but I have to say Sonic and Final Fantasy fanboys are among the worse group of people I encountered online and IRL.

quote Saga

Twilight Princess and Mario Galaxy pretty much killed the series for me.

Can definitely understand Twilight Princess killing it for you but what was wrong with Mario Galaxy?

actually while I have your attention, go get No More Heroes on the PS3.

Sega I've never actually tried the p.s move but I'm not surprised if it's much better than the wii, after all it was released three years later or something. There's a line between innovating something that's already out there and stealing someone else's idea though imo. The ps move may be more fluid but other than that it's basically the exact same thing as far as I know.

quote thewatermeloncult

Sega

Mention fail. I never even liked Sega.

Now playing aside...

quote thewatermeloncult

There's a line between innovating something that's already out there and stealing someone else's idea though imo.

"Stealing" is inevitable though. In fact when it comes to technology "stealing" is not a right term unless the implementation of a given technology blatantly use other patents with no permission. Innovation is about taking something that exists and making it better. Nowadays it's not just about creation.

Here's a perfect example. Perfectly fitting for the thread, too.

The idea of gaming systems has been around for years, and it didn't start with Nintendo. The first videogame system that could be bought by average families and that could be connected to a TV was a console released by Magnavox called the Magnavox Odyssey. This gave birth to the videogame industry and to the first generation of gaming systems. Then came the classic Atari, which started the second generation, and it wasn't until the third generation that Nintendo created their own gaming system, which was the NES.

Many seem to think that Nintendo created the first gaming system for house use, maybe due to it's success, completely ignoring the deserved credit for Atari and Magnavox. But everything Nintendo did was to innovate on top of the already existing idea created by Magnavox. Under your own words, this would be a case of Nintendo stealing the original idea by Magnavox. Though Nintendo innovated on top of the Atari, Magnavox where the ones who came with the original idea of gaming systems that could be connected to a normal TV. So if all this was really stealing, Magnavox could go after Atari, Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft and sue them away.

It may be true that Nintendo created the first motion gaming system for average homes, but Sony and later Microsoft innovated on top of this idea and made it better with the PS Move and Kinect respectively. Sony was the first company to use CDs/DVDs for their console games, and after Nintendo saw a cartridge wasn't enough, they decided to go this same route, but making the DVD's a bit smaller and with more space than those of the PSX.

Innovation is a vicious cycle. Companies are constantly innovating on top of another company's ideas and this is perfect, because they are not stealing ideas per-se; They are just making them better.

Random fact: Nintendo jumped on the gaming system bandwagon later. Originally it was a company who sold playing cards.

quote Saga

The idea of gaming systems has been around for years, and it didn't start with Nintendo. The first videogame system that could be bought by average families and that could be connected to a TV was a console released by Magnavox called the Magnavox Odyssey. This gave birth to the videogame industry and to the first generation of gaming systems. Then came the classic Atari, which started the second generation, and it wasn't until the third generation that Nintendo created their own gaming system, which was the NES.

Many seem to think that Nintendo created the first gaming system for house use, maybe due to it's success, completely ignoring the deserved credit for Atari and Magnavox. But everything Nintendo did was to innovate on top of the already existing idea created by Magnavox. Under your own words, this would be a case of Nintendo stealing the original idea by Magnavox. Though Nintendo innovated on top of the Atari, Magnavox where the ones who came with the original idea of gaming systems that could be connected to a normal TV. So if all this was really stealing, Magnavox could go after Atari, Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft and sue them away.

Random fact: Nintendo jumped on the gaming system bandwagon later. Originally it was a company who sold playing cards.

Gonna jump in with my Nintendo nerdiness here. Fun Fact: Nintendo actually got into the video game industry because, guess what, they were actually licensed BY Magnavox to sell Odysseys in Japan. Seeing the market's potential, they invented their first two consoles, the aptly-named Color TV Game 6 and the Color TV Game 15. Then, when Atari demonstrated their smashing success in America, Nintendo decided to do something bold back at home: Make a console that would be twice as fast and twice as powerful as anything else in any market worldwide, develop it before the end of the year, make it dirt-cheap, and sell millions. Enter the Famicom (short for Family Computer) that, minus a few extra additions and a different housing, was essentially the Japanese NES that was eventually ported to the United States and subsequently worldwide.

After the success of the NES was fully under way, Nintendo made a contract with Sony to develop a peripheral device that would allow the NES to read compact discs. After some development already started, Nintendo dropped the contract because they thought it gave Sony too much control. Instead of trashing it, though, Sony decided to use the remains of this project to forge, what else, the original Playstation.

Our story doesn't end here, however! With Sony suddenly a new competitor on the field of game consoles, rival company Microsoft started to get worried. They immediately declared R&D into building their own console to keep pace with Sony, and this birthed the Xbox.

The point to this story is that idea theft isn't only used from time to time by all of the big three gaming companies we know today, but it in fact gave rise to them in the first place. Magnavox started Nintendo's reign, Nintendo gave Sony a door in, and Microsoft chased after Sony. And it isn't just video games that do this, either. "Taking inspiration" from other companies is actually a lawful and long-studied practice called corporate espionage. You know what they say; if you can't beat 'em, join 'em! Or, if you don't want to join them, just steal their idea and tweak it enough to avoid lawsuits. Everything that isn't copyrighted or trademarked is fair game, and if it's both fair game and worth money, no amount of morality will keep a company from trying to profit from it.

Does this help your point, Saga?