Serious Discussion Thread (Rule 6 amended) - Page 14

I don't really understand what you're getting at?
With plastic surgery you're changing the shell on the outside of your body, not the complex genetics. Those cannot be changed at the core once they have been created. So it wont prevent evolution in the human race.

For example, supposedly the number of red-headed or ginger people in the world is rapidly decreasing and in say 200-300 years to come it has been stated that there could be no red-headed or ginger people at all. This is supposedly because on a general scale, redheads and gingers are less attractive and therefore do not reproduce as much. Cutting down the population of these people. But if they we're to all bleach their hair bright blonde. They would still have redhead/ginger genes and therefore if they were to reproduce the gene for red/ginger hair would be passed on as normal. By changing their hair colour they are not altering their genes as a person.

So I actually believe your statement of plastic surgery is stunting human evolution to be false

quote CJames21

quote awesomeasaurus

For example, supposedly the number of red-headed or ginger people in the world is rapidly decreasing and in say 200-300 years to come it has been stated that there could be no red-headed or ginger people at all. This is supposedly because on a general scale, redheads and gingers are less attractive and therefore do not reproduce as much. Cutting down the population of these people. But if they we're to all bleach their hair bright blonde. They would still have redhead/ginger genes and therefore if they were to reproduce the gene for red/ginger hair would be passed on as normal. By changing their hair colour they are not altering their genes as a person.

I just had to point this out - your example is all wrong. Ginger people are not going to die out, and even if they were, it wouldn't be because they're 'generally less attractive'. That's a bit of a bigoted view if I'm honest. :L
But your point that altering your appearance isn't going to affect your genes is right, as far as I'm aware.

It wasn't from my point of view, I'm ginger myself. But it's something that I overheard.... Not sure where but it was some sort of media

quote CJames21

quote awesomeasaurus

It wasn't from my point of view, I'm ginger myself. But it's something that I overheard.... Not sure where but it was some sort of media

Oh, fair enough, sorry.

Don't be sorry :3 I was just stating my views.

Anyway, is there any other topics at the moment?

Okay short but sweet.

What are you guys' views on self harmers?

I feel as if, it's an unhealthy habit. It's the harmer's choice to harm themselves, and I'm all for you being who you are but, I think that's a tad extreme. Sometimes cutting and hurting yourself is the only way to feel, so I understand that they feel the need to do it. I'm against it, but they can do whatever they please.

Urgh, I could go on and on here... >.>

Put simply, it's wrong. I just hate it when people argue that we have to test on animals first because it could harm a person if we didn't, because I'm a strong believer that other animals are just as important as humans, and can feel just as much pain. Get volunteers; I'm sure enough people will be willing to do it.

And yes, testing cosmetics on them is completely unnecessary and cruel.

quote Disillusioned

Putting it out there seeing as today animal rights protesters set fire to the pharmacy labs again in my college. :o

God, it's stupid when people do this. It's like they're saying "oh no, these people are hurting animals, let's hurt them!" :L

What volunteer would put themselves at a high risk like that?

I wouldn't necessarily say it's right to do it, but it's a must, in order to develop medicines and stuff.

Actually coming to think of it, they already do human testing for medicine.

quote CJames21

Yeah, I guess it would be a problem. I don't really know that much about it, so forgive me if I sounded a bit ignorant. x3
I guess there's not really any other way around it.

But would the tests even work on fruit flies? I mean, surely their bodies are very different to ours, so wouldn't chemicals have different effects?

I don't know much about them, but I do know the very first space craft had a crew of fruit flies to test the effects from space. I forget if they were in their for a week, or a month or two or what. But it was a fairly short time considering they had 14 generations of fruit fly when the ship came back down. They chose the fruit fly because it was the fastest reproducing animal/insect they could find. And they needed to find out the effects from space that would get passed on if we stayed in space for a long time.