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seriously just leave get a life stop trolling around here you are a grammar nazi so piss off if you don't like it

quote 11kgm
seriously just leave get a life stop trolling around here you are a grammar nazi so piss off if you don't like it
So many things wrong with this, but I'll take the time out. Your post should probably look something like this:

Seriously: just leave. Get a life and stop trolling around here. You are a grammar Nazi, so piss off if you don't like it.

I'll also take the time to clarify a few things too.

1. I don't need to leave, I contribute to this forum in the form of quality posts that actually help members. This is something that you do not do.

2. I'm not a 'grammar Nazi' or a troll. I just take pride in the fact that I'm an educated human being that can construct a sentence with the vital grammer and punctuation required. Again: something you are not.

3. Don't you care what you come across as? Wouldn't you prefer being a valued member and not a laughing stock of a member?

I do agree with FSC100 that the ability to now notify members so easily would make a seperate forum a viable option.

AS i only joined this community in Febuary 2011, as at first i used this website.

Im not entirely sure what were best thread, but the sound of rate my team thread sounds pretty decent but thinking about it your probably only have people posting their squad for attention. Unless I'm over-looking things. Anyways i agree Player Forum is dying slowly but i believe story forum is pretty decent and their have been some great stories Ive read what unfortunately have been stopped: for example coxinator story of Khouma Babacar IMO was maybe one of the best Ive read on this forum.

quote J_ames

quote 11kgm
seriously just leave get a life stop trolling around here you are a grammar nazi so piss off if you don't like it
So many things wrong with this, but I'll take the time out. Your post should probably look something like this:

Seriously: just leave. Get a life and stop trolling around here. You are a grammar Nazi, so piss off if you don't like it.

I'll also take the time to clarify a few things too.

1. I don't need to leave, I contribute to this forum in the form of quality posts that actually help members. This is something that you do not do.

2. I'm not a 'grammar Nazi' or a troll. I just take pride in the fact that I'm an educated human being that can construct a sentence with the vital grammer and punctuation required. Again: something you are not.

3. Don't you care what you come across as? Wouldn't you prefer being a valued member and not a laughing stock of a member?

I do agree with FSC100 that the ability to now notify members so easily would make a seperate forum a viable option.

1.He does contribute to the forum just like you do. There is nothing wrong with his posts it adds something to a discussion how he types it is down to him, it doesn't make him uneducated. I don't see why you are making such a big deal over grammar and peoples posts, it is an internet chat forum they can chat how they like.

2. Pretty much answered in 1.

3. Who cares what people think you come across as it's an internet forum, I think you're taking this WAY to seriously. Just because you have decent grammar doesn't necessarily make you educated. No matter how much you moan about peoples grammar and posts it is not going to change, just relax and let people post how they want (within the rules of course )

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I agree with FSC that notifications make it easier but that is not going to stop the bad comps etc ruling out the good ones or knocking them off the main page. People still even miss notifications as well or choose to ignore them

quote J_ames

I'm baffled at you saying that he contributes something Crowy; I truly am. If by mentioning Erick Torres in every second post, or showing regens is contributing: he should be member of the year. The guy has been the laughing stock of every FM forum that I can remember, from FM06 onwards. In regards to:

quote Crowy
3. Who cares what people think you come across as it's an internet forum, I think you're taking this WAY to seriously. Just because you have decent grammar doesn't necessarily make you educated. No matter how much you moan about peoples grammar and posts it is not going to change, just relax and let people post how they want (within the rules of course )
Who wants to come across as an illiterate moron, especially when most of [if not all] of us have had the advantage of having a high school education? It truly isn't that hard to take the time before hitting the 'quick reply' or 'reply' button. Hell, we even have a 'spelling' button ffs. 

Past moderators on former FM's, especially 06 and 07 were tough on shit posters. In return, the forums were generally better off because the quality was there. Sure, the moderators weren't the most popular people at times: but they were well respected at the same time too. That's not to say I don't respect the current moderators, I just think their predecessors were much tougher: which was a better thing.

You are generally pretty much never going to rule them out you're always going to get new members with shit grammar and posts. There are a lot more than just 11kgm, I started out with posts like that when I first started Neoseeker. Granted 11kgm has had time to improve compared to others but loosing everyone with shit grammar or grammar you don't deem acceptable there will be hardly a forum left.

Every post contributes to a discussion in my opinion if he just puts a random name/player then other members should ask why or at least give him a reply.

Moderators are more strict on text talk not the use of bad grammar (I would of thought) this forum is open to a wide age group, and you expect every member to have perfect grammar/posts which is just pretty much impossible.

I can see where you're coming from as the quality of posts/discussions have declined since even I have been here, but what you're trying to change is pretty much impossible, there are a lot more younger people with access to the internet now a days and you can't just expect them to have perfect grammar right away.

Edit: In general though from what I have seen in my time on Neoseeker, a lot of members start out with bad grammar they either generally fade out and leave Neoseeker or they stay a while and become top posters.

James 4 mod

quote FSC100

It would be nice for every person to have perfect grammar, in every post, but I would rather have a contribution with poor grammar than none at all. It may been seen as spam by some, but it might be useful to the creator of the thread, or anyone else. Not trying to pick an argument here, I just think that, as long as its within the rules of the forum, there shouldnt be restrictions on what people can and can't post.

Possibly a greater emphasis on good punctuation could be created, but I'm not too sure how you would go about creating that.

But that's the thing, it is in the rules, most people write things like "gud" or "plzzzzzzz" Before I take people actually did follow the rules now because it's become so relaxed on cutting this down is now practically impossible

quote Forum Rules

Posting Style

Do not type as if you're sending a text message from your mobile phone. You have a full sized QWERTY keyboard, so use it correctly. Any txt/sms posts will be edited accordingly, and the originator of the post will get a warning. Repeated warnings will result in a ban.

It doesn't so much as bother me as when people post what is completely irrelevant to the actual game!

For example
"just going out for a bit and will be on fm later" then just leave it like that....
or "just had a good sesh on the xbox now going out" I don't need to know your life story man!

JohnRush I agree to an extent. I think that the grammar in this forum could be improved. What I'm arguing against is people saying 11kgm's and others comments in the player forum should be stopped because of his bad grammar. Yes, it would be good if he improved his grammar, but I'd still rather have poor grammar posts with the contribution than none at all.

Again, with the "I'm going out" kinda of comments. It would be better if people didnt post this kinda thing and made more useful posts, but I don't think that it makes for a good forum if people feel too restricted on what they can and can't type.

I guess, overall, I'm saying I sympathise with both of your thoughts on the standard of grammar, and agree that it would be good to try and find a way to improve it. But on the other hand, its important that members can contribute without feeling that if their post isnt great gramatically, then no-one will find it interesting/useful. People need to find a balance.