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Apr 17, 04 at 4:01am ^re: The Punisher (2004)
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Awwww, whatssammatter? IQ level not high enough?
This movie kicked major ass. Thomas Jane makes a great Frank Castle, and brings to the movie all of the emotion that was desperately needed in Dolph Lundgren's film. When his family is killed, the sense of loss gets across in this film. Youre pissed off just as much as he is.
If youre expecting a Schwarzenegger, Explosions every second type of film, this movie isnt for you.
This is a film about a man who loses his family, and in a cold and calculating fashion exacts deadly punishment on those he owes it to.
Be warned, an IQ level higher than that of your shoe size is required to enjoy this film. So if youre an utter tool who doesnt like something that requires thinking, and isnt mindless explosions and violence, go see something else.
The manner in which he sets his plans into motion, and how he ultimately destroys Howard Saint's world is friggin great. One of the best paybacks in movie history. How could you not like this.
HOWARD SAINT!! You took everything from me....
You killed my son!
Background Noise: Nooooooo!! BOOOOOOM!!
Both of em.
*Critically wounds Howard Saint, walks forward, and tosses pictures at him....
I made you kill your best friend.....
*Tosses Olivia Saint's earring at him*
I made you kill your wife.......and now, Ive killed you.
*Ties Saint to a car, sends the car through parking lot full of cars rigged with explosives. Bombs detonate, and a screaming, dying Howard saint is dragged to his fiery doom.*
Yeah, he didnt just walk up and blow him away. So this movie totally sucks.
Yeah right. Im not sure what movie you dingleberries were watching, but obviously it was too advanced for you.
True fans of the Punisher, dont listen to these fools. Go see this movie, Im sure you will enjoy it.
Be warned though, Frank gets creative with the manner in which he kills people, he doesnt just walk up and shoot them. If thats what you want, Go rent COMMANDO. Thats a good Arnold flick for you, repetetive and requires no thinking capacity to enjoy.
Kill bill......Please. At least to see the Punisher, you only have to pay ONCE to see the movie in its entirety.
Accusing a movie of being a ripoff, and then recommending someone to see a movie that could have easily been shown all at one time ( kill bill ), but they would rather make you pay twice to see it all, is about as natural as an oral bowel movement. Get a grip.
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Apr 17, 04 at 10:36am ^re: The Punisher (2004)
You know Stinger... You, I and TheGame must be the only people on this site that loved this film, because...I dunno, maybe we understood it?! (Sorry bl3nd3r, your edit that you hid underneath your main post doesn't count)
People...Don't listen to them, nor those *bleep*ing "film" critics! Anybody_killa's been closed-minded about this project ever since he saw pics of Thomas Jane, and Raijin's an AICN-fanboy, he'll believe and repeat anything from that site. The Hulk is one of the greatest, and so underappreciated Marvel comic films ever created; just because a few dumbass kids were expecting to see more Hulk Smash, and less drama, doesn't mean it's the 1st step towards Marvel's downfall. It's Marvel's stepping stone for achieving what other Comic films didn't...an awesome storyline mixed with real acting, and awesome action!
The only reason the Hulk did so poorly in both reviews and at the box office is simply due to the fact that...well, not a lot of people "got" it. Marvel didn't make your happy-kiddy action film like Spider-man, where it takes someone with an attention span of a *bleep*ing twig to understand it (hmm, maybe that's why everywhere I go, I see some 5 year old who believes "he" is Spider-man -_- ) ...Marvel and Ang Lee took a completely different approach to making Hulk; focusing more on the story and the dramatic struggle that Bruce and the Hulk deal with in the comics. They weren't making a film just to show off the Hulk pounding the *bleep* out of everything he see's nor were they making a "Non-stop Action Thrill-ride". I applaud Ang Lee and Marvel for taking such a bold approach..the end result was a masterpiece, surpassing even the blockbuster giant, Spider-Man. Hulk was made strictly for the fans, and only the fans enjoyed it....everyone else was left picking their nose, waiting to see more of Bruce Banner "Hulk"-out. Now with that said, I bring you The Punisher.
Look folks, it's this simple....either you get it, or you *bleep*ing don't....this isn't (as I love how Stinger puts it), some dumbass Arnold-flick where the film thinks for you, and you're treated with one explosion after the next. The way Marvel films are going, it takes some brains to get through it...and by brains I mean knowledge, and by knowledge I mean have a grasp of the comics these films are based on. All those *bleep*ing films critics I can guarantee you are familiar with the Punisher trademark name, but honestly, they have no idea what the hell the comic's are really about...and that's why every jackass critic has been badmouthing the Punisher.
As for which should you chose to see: Kill Bill Vol.2 or The Punisher? Let me put it this way...I met up with some friends who saw Kill Bill V.2 at an early Friday Matinee, and then saw Punisher with me tonight, and all of them (I'm talking about 6 people here...all of who loved Kill Bill Vol.1 btw) said The Punisher was way better. But again, I don't know if this has anything to do with it, but they understood this film, and thus were able to enjoy it...so take that for what it's worth.
Warning: Film Spoilers!
The movie starts out with Frank Castle on a undercover mission, which sets up the story of why Howard Saint wants revenge on Castle. It soon leads into Castle, now retired FBI-agent, going back home to his wife and son. I immediately feel the love Castle and his wife share towards another; good chemistry between Jane and Samantha Mathis. After a bit, Castle, wife and son are having a long-overdue family reunion on Castle's side of the family. You know, this film has such a great cast...here we're treated to the legendary Roy Scheider as Frank Castle's father.
Not to reveal everything, but it's in this setting where all hell breaks loose. I really felt bad for Castle's wife and son...when they're trying to flee, apart of me wanted them to escape, Hell I wanted them to be able to escape but I knew what was eventually going to happen. What I didn't expect was exactly how they were going to die...that just made it much worse. When Thomas Jane was running down the pier, yelling Amanda's name...I really felt the emotion, something that was completely lacking from Punisher '89; Got to give mad props again to the awesome acting skills on Thomas Jane and the rest of the cast.
We see Castle do the whole resurrection thing that had been done many times in the comics when he was near death, but it's not long and drawn out like I had expected it to be...but that makes it better because we see him say one of the best lines from the film (which there are many):
Witch Doctor: "May God be with you"
Castle: "God's going to sit this one out" (Oh yeah! )
The rest of the film is just Punisher *bleep*ing with Howard Saint's mind. If you follow the recent Punisher series, you'll notice that Spacker, Bumpo, and Joan are from the comic. Hell, the scene where Spacker gets tortured for information is taken straight from the comic. Again, either you know this and can enjoy the film that much more, or you don't.
When Kevin Nash (The Russian) makes his appearance, my friends and I were all like "Oh *bleep* Yeah". The entire scene played out perfectly, and the classical music in the background made it even better than having your typical heavy-metal thrasher sound being played. Kevin Nash did a fine job but I was disappointed that The Russian got killed off so easily. A few pages back I wondered if Thomas Jane was going to decapitate him like he did in the comic. The whole point about the Russian was the fact that he was unstoppable. They literally shot nukes at him and he kept coming. It wasn't until they cut off his head that you knew he was good, and dead. So perhaps he'll be back in the sequel?
The final showdown was brilliant! I loved how they had the Punisher *bleep* with Saint's mind even worse than he already had, plus the action was great. Instead of having Thomas Jane run around like Dolph Lundren did, avoiding all those automatics, this time the Punisher actually took a hit, or two...or three. It's cool, because Punisher wore a bulletproof vest with the Punisher logo on it, so when he took a hit, it just kind of stunned him for a few seconds. Again with the death scenes...very creative in this fight sequence. I was diggin the knife through the throat.
The best fight had to be between (I think his name said "Toro" on the guitar) and Punisher. The song he played in the cafe was cool, and the fight was even cooler.
Overall...The Punisher is my new favorite comic film. Hulk is very close in 2nd, followed by Hellboy. That new trailer of Spider-Man 2 was shown first tonight, and I have to admit, it did look pretty sweet watching it on the big screen as compared to my small computer monitor...nonetheless The Punisher is an awesome comic flick that deserves better reviews from what it's getting. I hope the rest of you can fully understand the film to get the most enjoyment out of it. Otherwise you'll end up disappointed like the others did...but meh, *bleep* ya'll, I loved it and to me, that's all that matters
The Punisher: 10 out of 10
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Apr 17, 04 at 1:29pm ^re: The Punisher (2004)
Amen to that TLA.
The funniest thing I have found was Roger Ebert's review of the movie. He truly gives away that he doesnt know a damned thing about the Punisher comic series.
He cites the movie as being too dark, and doesnt see Frank Castle come across as good as your other Marvel Heroes have on screen.
That could be Roger, because the Punisher is an ANTI-hero, not a super hero. Where Spidey uses fists and webs, and always tries to bring the bad guys in alive, The Punisher simply kills them in the most convenient manner to him at that time.
I swear, these so-called movie critics should really try and do a little research on what it is they are reviewing. They are slamming The Punisher for being what the comic book is. The comic series isnt about happy endings.
One of my favorite things was taken from PUNISHER WAR ZONE #1, where he puts the popsicle to the guy's back, and uses the cutting torch on the steak, making the guy think his back was being burned to get him to spill information.
Also, when he rips down the headstone over his own grave, and plants that SOB right in the middle of the green where Howard Saint is playing golf. Thats one way to send a message...heh.
When his family is being butchered, I was really surprised that they went into so much detail with his wife and son trying desperately to get away. The truck rolls over, his son is crying because he hurt his arm, and she's begging him to "be a big boy" and just run. You know that they're going to die, but for some reason you keep hoping that somehow they get away. It just pisses you off that much more when they dont make it.
Favorite kill? Hmmmm. The knife through the throat and up through the mouth was good, I have no argument there, but I think my favorite is where he ices the dude left behind to wait for Castle to come back after he killed the Russian. When he takes that paper cutter blade off and just BURIES that damn blade in that SOB's friggin head. That was too damn sweet right there.
This is one of the best Marvel movies I have seen. I was actually wondering what they would do to keep it from falling into the duldrums of being just another Arnold flick, shooting tons of nameless people, blowing up a huge number of insignificant things, and basicly repeating that process for two hours and fifteen minutes. I was a little concerned going in, probably because of what happened with the first attempt, but once it got going, I knew we were looking at a different, and much better Punisher flick.
This movie rocks. Dont listen to the critics, they dont know what they are talking about in the first place. If youre going to read reviews, go by the User Reviews put up at most review sites. They will give you the best idea on whether you should see it or not.
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Apr 17, 04 at 5:54pm ^re: The Punisher (2004)
I don't know whether to see this or not now. A lot of people say it sucks yet a lot of people say that is rocks. I don't want to waste my $6.50.
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Apr 17, 04 at 6:45pm ^re: The Punisher (2004)
quote The Living Angelusno no no. I enjoyed this film as well Frank Castle was portrayed so well, and this film's storyline wasnt thrown way out of proportion. It had the perfect plot, lots of violence, and cool lines...
Only thing i found tacky was at the end, where he blew up all the cars into a signified pattern to form the skull. It was tight, but its like "I'm da bad ass of the movie so I'm going to make my symbol out of explosions."
Fight with the russian was real good too. The use of weapons (bow, sawed off shotty, Carbine) and the never ending violence, how could anyone NOT LIKE this movie?!?!
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Apr 17, 04 at 8:50pm ^re: The Punisher (2004)
this movie rocked i just saw it,omg omg omg it was soooo kewl,i love the ending its so kewl,n funny
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|Angel of Doom||
Apr 18, 04 at 1:03am ^re: The Punisher (2004)
What the hell? How can people say it sucked?
The movie was *bleep*ing excellent! The Punisher, and Hellboy, are the two best movies I've see in a year!
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Apr 18, 04 at 2:45am ^re: The Punisher (2004)
I did originally plan on throwing all my negative reasons into detail, but I saw that nobody had seen the movie yet, and figured, hell. I don't want to spoil anything, but did want to give a clear and concise warning.
So now that peeps have seen it, and more than not, hated it. Let me explain.
First off, I loved the Hulk movie. And Daredevil. Thought they were just fine. Though I can see both where Daredevil and the Hulk were weak, I can see what they managed to accomplish, and more than not, they were great films. People were expecting more Hulk smash I guess, and then again, not too many people know enough about David Banner himself, and those that did may not have liked the whole rewrite shabang. I knew the basics, but I really didn't care. I knew the basics of Batman before I saw the first movie, and was able to recognize what they changed, and didn't care because the film was so well directed and scripted that no matter what it did, what it changed...who they kilt... in the end, the story from start to finish was excellent. That being said, no such formulas worked in them last two Batman flick. -_-
Back onta' the subject of the Punisher. First off, Timmy Jane is a good actor. He can be real good at times, and in more than a few scenes in this movie, did he make ya feel that he was indeed Frank Castle. However, I'm not saying the horridness of this movie is coming from him alone. It comes from the script, the amateur director who only got reign of this movie because he's bonkin' Gale Anne Hurd. (This really is his first film, and you can tell, as the entire movie is shot like a B movie, with a much bigger budget, disguised by whatever acting talent the few good actors were able to dish out with what they had to work with)
What I really Hated
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* I said I hated the direction and script. When one is bad, and the other is decent, it becomes a little bit easier to understand where things went wrong, and why. I have no fracking clue as to where Avi Arad was the whole time, but then again, I guess he was pressured into this. They got good people for the film, for the most part, save for Travolta and a few others that hurt to think about. But when these actors are handed a bullshit script, and are not directed by a professional, what the hell do you expect? Who do they have to try to impress? They still get their paychecks, and this movie is assured to make okay green, it being a comic book movie, being so close to summer...let alone the fan base dying to see one grim mutha fugga blow chest cavities into baddies, with MP5's and M-4's.
What we got was a crap adaptation based on "Welcome Back Frank". Some scenes, which have already spread on internet forums, such as a knife involved with a jaw, and an arrow involved with a throat, were pretty cool. For the most part, the battle with The Russian was fine, though it took a cheesy twist and turn near the end, resulting in mixed feelings. While for some it's easy to say, "Wow, that fight was awesome!", for others that DO NOT KNOW JACK SHIT ABOUT THE PUNISHER, it's judged as just another action scene, and what stands out is not its greatness, but its error. But action scenes are just action scenes, and only when they resolve or add conflict to the films key issues, do they really matter.
And so I start with the family massacre at Two Pi... in Puerto Rico. First off, before I get to anything more, why oh why did that shitty elevator musack always have to kick in for scenes that it was entirely uncalled for? When I see the punisher, I don't hear western themes going off. I don't see some rugged cowboy going out on the hunt, to rustle up some dirty dogs, I hear police sirens, highway traffic, imagine the black night, a red laser scope finding its target, and then flashes of panic shown through the yellow-orange shine of gunfire, only to be met with the red tint. But like I said, "If they want to completely recreate the character, it can be okay if it's done right".
It really wasn't. The music sucked!
Okay, so maybe you're deaf, and you can lip read.
I didn't give a rats ass about the family. Things were so half assed that when they finally do get massacred, the only real thing that pulled at my emotional strings was when the son and mother get out of the car, and the boy screams that his arm is broken. How the mother in desperation continued to try to get the boy running again. One of the only scenes that made me think "Some frackers need to die". Yet a few moments later the feeling faded.
Ergh..and the bad directing persisted.
Anybody else notice that god damn magic truck that appeared on the dock!? Once scene Franks there, with a full shot of the dock being empty, next scene he looks up and voila, the magic schoolbus appears. Oookay...what's worse is that while the bastards are trying to run over Frank, and he's sitting there with a shotgun, blasting at them, when a hit actually DOES blow out the windshield, the stupid bastards inside look around like, "What just happened? Why did that happen Vinny!?"
"I dunno Tony, maybe it was THE FRACKING GUY WITH THE FRACKING SHOTGUN!!!"
And of course, instead of continuing to drive over Frank, the stupid bastards get out. And then, of course, Mr.Macho has to walk up to Frank, and allow him to pull the trigger, allowing Frank a clean shot at point blank range with a shotgun. When the empty barrel goes click, only then does the man smirk. While some people would think, "Haha, Yeeah, he's badass!", people like me though, "FRACKING INCOMPETENT! He's supposed to be a professional killer! Why the frack did he figure the gun was empty!? *and of course you can tell by his expression that he didn't know at all*
But that can be ignored. The movie is just starting right? It will get better...
And then the dock goes boom. Instead of shooting Frank, and then blowing up the dock for the sake of being generic badguys, they just blow up the dock and leave.
And of course the stereotypical voodoo man has to end up saving him.
Meanwhile, Frank decides it's a good idea to have his new castaway beard bleached, and later goes on to shake his fist in the air as he holds a picture of his dearly departed.
Seriously. I didn't give a damn. All I could think of was scenes from Road to Perdition, Hellboy, 28 Days Later, Signs..and others. That's how men fracking grieve their lost damn it!
Okay, okay. Maybe he was brought up differently. Maybe he still had a splinter stuck in his spincter. What's next?
I think God will sit this one out....(and so should you)
And then Mr.Man goes to town, meeting zany characters that can't decide whether they are trying to be in a dark brooding movie, or a flashy PG-13 comic book romp.
And so some of the killin' was great, others were not so great. In the end, I walked away thinking Dolph should be feeling mighty proud, even in his retirement.
The Crow, Robocop, The Professional (aka Leon)...that's how you do a fracking revenge movie.
Not "lemme plant specific bombs under specific cars, so when I walk away and push this button, i leave a big flaming skull...ooooh yeaaaah."
And I couldn't help but laugh out loud when Travolta threw his wife over a cliff. I was half expecting her to shoot lightning from her fingertips. And to make it more cheesy, the loony toons mobile comes rushing down the track.
Now if only Travolta was replaced by his friend in the movie. That guy could have been a better Howard Saint...
But alas, Marvel has crashed for the first time. Hopefully they will learn a thing or two before they continue with the Fantastic Four, Ghostrider, and Iron Man.
If anything, see it for the action, not because it's a Punisher movie. Then you may be happy.
It's also good to know that the forum mod will love Van Helsing. Somebody has to. Unless of course you go to see it simply to see Kate Beckinsale continue to dress provocatively.
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|The Living Angelus||
Apr 18, 04 at 10:58am ^re: The Punisher (2004)
Raijin, when you pull your head out of your ass, come back and we can debate this issue.
Every "valid" point you bring up is absurd, and I have no time nor the will to reply to each and every asinine comment.
You went into the Punisher already dreading it; Everyone can clearly see it in that post of yours. For some odd reason, deep down, you were hoping for The Punisher to "suck" and fail to meet your expectations, and as such you spent every second of the film, ripping apart scene by scene trying to find every negative detail you could muster! You went in there believing Travolta would put on a terrible performance, so no matter what he could have done, no matter even if it matched up to Pulp Fiction, Face/Off, Grease greatness, you still were too closed-minded to see past anything. And what a shocker...you actually left the theater despising the film. Honestly, I'm not surprised by your comments. Making comparisons to Dolph's Punisher is only making you look like as ass, because you damn well know how horrible that film is...but then again, perhaps you don't because how do I honestly know you've even seen it?
Perhaps next time, avoid the critics' reviews...these days, critics don't know shit, and Roger Ebert is prime example of this theory. One site I'd highly suggest avoid listening to any review on is AICN; We (well I and a few others) know damn well how one-sided that site is. It's no longer a great place to read "real" reviews and learn the latest updates anymore. From all the bastard 10 year olds who plague the site with their idiotic one-liners, to Harry Knowles himself...the site is a joke. We all know he kisses ass to every Director he can get his sights on, and those who he thinks can further his career he gives great reviews for; those who are unfortunate to be newcomers or even those who couldn't give a rats ass about a fat ass he lashes out at and posts just one giant ball of negative remarks.
Like I said before, People have No *bleep*ing clue -_-
When you bring up such irrelevant points that can easily be justified with a rational explanation, most of which you can answer yourself, honestly tell me how I'm suppose to respond to something so inane? It makes me question your intelligence as an average film fan, or if you have even seen the film at all and are simply Harry Knowles' puppet, repeating whatever he had said at AICN.
Okay, I will take that back, I will comment on one point you bring up; This whole pier scene you talk about. Well, one the jeep drove around the dock, explaining why it was circling around and "appeared out of no where". Next you criticize Saint's son & Posse walking up to Castle. Saint's son was an arrogant, spoiled son of a bitch; You could tell by the way he dressed and all the flashy women he had around him all the time, so naturally, after having shot him several times, they casually walked up to him to finish the job. Frank gathered enough strength to pull one more trigger, which did stop them, but when it was revealed he didn't have anymore shells, the arrogant Saint smirk, and proceeded to "punish" Castle. You see, the mission was simple....Eliminate all of Castle's family / make Frank Castle pay for what he did...and did he pay. Not only could he do nothing for his wife and son as they were run down like a bunch of dogs, nor could he help all of his family and his very own father as they were each gunned down, but afterwards he literally got the living hell beat out of him.
quote Captain ObliviousAgain...were you watching the same film as me?!?! Right before they set the dock ablaze, they shoot Frank right in the *bleep*ing chest! Frank should have been good as dead, but their plan didn't work, because the blast only blew him off the dock, rather than incinerate him. It wasn't the witch doctor who necessarily saved him, but it helped to move the story along in the film. The desire to seek punishment on the people who did this to his family were far greater than death itself! I don't know how many times he's been "resurrected" in the comics, but I'm glad it was only once in the film...because than I too would have to say it would be a bit over-the-top. And it's not like this all took place in a matter of a week, where he's near death and bounces back...he was gone for months recovering from his wounds! Oh Gosh, so his beard was a lighter color than his hair...whoop-dee-friggin doo, Call Avi, there's been a grave injustice!
Perhaps if you had payed more attention to the film and less time daydreaming about Tom Hanks and Cillian Murphy, maybe, and this is a long maybe here, you would have been able to enjoy this film! If you don't like it, fine...but come up with some valid reasoning rather than what you provided in your last attempt; Your post is both embarrassing and insulting. Feel ashamed because I feel ashamed for you. -_-
I don't know why you brought up Van Helsing, because I even admitted it wont live up to my expectations, but that doesn't mean it still wont be a good popcorn film (which Underworld, and The Mummy series were). If you want to get cute with your comments, I can get cute right back. It took you an hour to type that, but it'll only take me a second to delete it.
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Apr 18, 04 at 4:01pm ^re: The Punisher (2004)
This is one badass movie. It's the type of movie I wanted to see and with some extra comedy moments. I esp. like the last part.
Does anyone remember the Declaration of Intent? What was #1?
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Apr 18, 04 at 5:09pm ^re: The Punisher (2004)
OMFG did this move NOT disappoint. In fact it exceeded my expectations. I haven't seen anyone take such sweet revenge on their enemies since...well Kill Bill Volume 2 but I slightly enjoyed this movie even better.
The movie draws you in from the beginning when Frank's family are horribly murdered, to the very end when he serves punishment on those who executed them. Then of course Saint himself. Let me talk about that scene when Frank's mother and son were runned down. Even though their deaths were inevitable, you couldn't help but hope that they were going to get away, especially after how hard they fought to stay alive. I was going into this movie thinking just get Frank's family dead so we can get right to the revenge part of the film. But after the movie I wished they had just a bit more screen time! They acting by TJ and the sub-characters is phenomenal! Absolutely exceeding comic book based films expectations.
Considering that this film was shot on low budget not typical of major Hollywood action movies and only had the backing of a second rate film studio, the movie looked great. I can't help but wonder how good the film would have looked say it was backed by Sony pictures. But if having a visually average looking movie is a tradeoff for a great script and great acting then it's a fair deal. I just hope that the sequel will look even better.
The rest of the film we witness Frank Castle turning into the man known as The Punisher all in the meantime planning his revenge against Saint. And when he executes his plan, he dishes out the true meaning of Punishment on their asses. *bleep*ing sweet.
So far this is in my top 3 best films of 2004. Don't be mislead by what the critics have been saying. They get paid to sound like absolute *bleep*ing idiots. Go see this for yourself with an open mind. I give it a 10 out of 10
Did anyone get a Spiderman comic featuring the Punisher when they checked out this movie? I thought that was awesome. It was one of the first comics I've ever read. Sweet nostalgia.
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Apr 18, 04 at 5:31pm ^re: The Punisher (2004)
It was cool how he "tortured" that guy. Also how his son gave him that skull shirt to ward off evil spirits, and he used it while taking vengeance.
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Apr 18, 04 at 9:09pm ^re: The Punisher (2004)
quote TheLivingAngelusI damn sure have the time. These "points" are ridiculous.
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Apr 19, 04 at 12:29am ^re: The Punisher (2004)
This movie makes no sense at one part.... The bad guys said they knew Castle was back but didnt know where to find him....The where in the hell did The Russian find out where he lived, they never explained that.
Now that i think about this movie over and over, it was quite well done as far as originality goes, i mean, Frank found many interesting and delightfully creative ways to kill all the baddies.
And Jane played the Punisher role very well i gotta admit that. I change my mind for the rating on this move i give it a 7/10.
As for the sequel, its perfectly set up to be one and about close-minded on Thomas Jane? I said he was small, nothing more. Leave it up to TLA to overexhagurate what someone says. And i agree with the Kill Bill vol.2, you do only need to pay once to see the Punisher. Plus i personally thought the first Kill Bill was terrible, it reminded me too much of NBK which i also hated.
quoteI dont think that dumbass understands the concept of a vigelante.
What exactly was the error? I thought that fight scene was just fine, it shows the people who dont know the Punisher very well that hes not a super hero, does not have super human abilities which is what most outsiders of the comic world expect from a comic book-to movie.
quoteLol you gotta admit he did take quite a beating and didnt get killed of exactly that "easy", more like a little quickly.
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Apr 19, 04 at 1:19am ^re: The Punisher (2004)
I think I'll see this movie before it leaves the big screen. TLA and Stinger's posts are too long for me to read, but that proves that the movie must be good. I haven't cried in theaters since Beauty and the Beast, anyways.
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