The Dark Knight Rises (Post-Release Discussion) - Page 5

Cloudstrife87 I agree about the ending and the necessity to throw the auto-pilot thing down our throats. I personally would have found the movie a lot more satisfying if he had sacrificed himself.

On the Commissioner Gordon point. I completely get what you're saying. Although I feel Gordon's main purpose in the movie was to help develop Blake's character. The scene where Bane reads out the letter was well done to an extent, but their should have been a bigger fall out between Blake and Gordon - a man Blake had looked up to his whole career.

In the general scheme of things, Bane obviously read the letter to wind the public up, and add to the chaos, but it was used as a plot technique to engage Blake's true nature - that he's a rogue and can't trust the Law.

That slowly set Blake on his swirling path of doubt about the system, which was finalized in the end when the Police officer chooses to blow up the bridge rather than let then go over. We see him then give up on it all when he throws his badge over the bridge and then, evidently, finds the bat cave.

quote A Wind Powered Moose

Could have just had him named Richard Blake, and then the woman could have just said "Richard... Grayson?" at the end, and him have him saying that the Blake family was the last foster family he lived with, but he had gone back and taken his father's name.

I'm fairly certain than John Blake is a play on Tim Drake, the (now) third Robin. His investigative nature and empathetic attitude are more in line with Drake than they were with Dick Grayson.

There's quite a bit of tie-ins to the previous films. Harvey Dent's mark is a big one for Rises.

Blake mentioning how he ended up an orphan also fits in with Tim's story a bit more. Lost his mother, then lost his father (although it's told quite differently, father didn't die until well after he became Robin). But eh, to have a 'real name' as Robin, I doubt he'd use a Robin mantle. xD

Honestly, I'm glad it went a different route from TDK. Rather than try to keep things safe and follow the previous film through and through, Rises mixes things up.

One thing I did notice...holy crap so many sequences happening in broad daylight. Gotham's events usually, 90% of the time, run its course throughout the night. It's quite a turn of events to see so much going on without the shadows. And it just shows us just how chaotic the city had become. For Bane to succeed, for Gotham to really be shut off in daylight.

quote Faust

I'm fairly certain than John Blake is a play on Tim Drake, the (now) third Robin. His investigative nature and empathetic attitude are more in line with Drake than they were with Dick Grayson.

He's going full replace Batman mode. So I likened him to Nightwing in my mind, but I definitely see what you're talking about now. Good call.

*bleep*ing Anne Hathaway. She's perfect as catwman. I'm not quite present enough to write a proper review but i enjoyed it immensely. Sure, i'd rather he died rather than appearing at the cafe at the end but that's a minor complaint considering i was happy with the ending as a whole. Talia was a nice surprise for those not in the know but i don't think they gave her enough screen time (and her death was laughable) to really be a factor in the whole thing.

Very *bleep*ing happy.

quote BrokenKnights

Aaaand finally, climbing out of that well. Or rising out of that well rather. Holy shit... Just holy shit. With the music and the chanting and the flashback to the well in Wayne Manor. It was just absolutely brilliant.

How incredible was it when the chanting slowly turned into the "Nolan Batman Theme"? And then the bats fly out the wall. Ah man. In terms of sheer emotion and mood this film is a masterpiece (even if it did need two movies before it to build it up).

quote fifthcolumn

Someone on Reddit posted this Wednesday night, detailing their expectations for where TDKR would fit into the trilogy, and I don't think they could have been more accurate.

I was thinking the same thing, except Rises is a much better finisher than the silly and straightforward Jedi, and the three Batman movies blend together better than Star Wars. Begins ends with the calling card, TDK opens with the Joker. TDK ends with Harvey’s death and Rises begins with his funeral. Not to mention the lines of dialogue that are in line with things that happen in the successive films.

Although the more I think on it, the more problems I have. I want to reserve opinion until I see it again and see the trilogy as a whole. At the moment Rises seems to entertain the body more than the mind, giving you such a heart-pounding and nerve racking feeling at many moments (I was literally exhausted at the end of it all), but there's not as much to think about compared to the ideas of good/evil in TDK, whether Batman is causing more harm than good, etc. If anything, as much as I liked Rises, it does makes me more thankful that TDK is the film it is.

"Rising" out the well to and the discussion of fear was very similar to Batman Begins. Then again I suppose the point was that he lost his touch and needed to become Batman again after 8 years. And it perfectly links it all together. "Why do we fall down?"

Holy shit I just got back from seeing it in IMAX in NYC where they had the premier...wow....just wow. Was a complete roller coaster and I loved it.

For everyone saying they wish Bruce died...why? Batman IS dead. Bruce is still alive. Robin now has access to the bat cave and can carry on the legend. It's perfect.

quote Sam

Am I the only one who thought Bane was more fat then 'ripped'?

He was built like a brick house. You don't want to cross a buff Tom Hardy.