LS guide?

Hey guys,

I'm trying a LS build (main build) and I'm having some trouble to get the most of the build.

My doubts:

1) which moves to put in the slot bar;
2) combos;
3) how to fight against Strike weak enemies;
4) best slash/thrust moves.

I'm trying to use this guide to make my armours

thx

Ben has a good guide check him out

quote RockLeo

quote Cvardeman

Ben has a good guide check him out

who is he? How can I find him? Is he a user in this forum or should i look in the GeoNet?

i have in my bars:

Deadly Fang - Final Fang - Grinder - Beast Claw - Giant Claw - Void Storm - Demon's Aura
Magic Breaker - Spirit Breaker - Anchor Blade - Serpent Fang - Enfeeble Counter

the rest is divine

I can't remember the LS skill names...Deadly Fang is the slash? I know Final fang is the thrust. You might want to add a 0mp move, so you'll have something to fall back on in case you run out of mp. And I think you should replace enfeeble counter with Void Crash (or at least change up depending on the situation.) The odds of having aggro, mixed with the chance of paralysis actually working might be too low to justify it being on your bar instead of something else.

Anchor Blade enemies as soon as you can gain that 1AC you need - use a Charge Drink if you must but otherwise, just use some fast attacks to gain that 1AC you need to use it.

Magic Breaker's handy on things that use magic - learn which enemies have magic attacks that you do need to break their magic stat for.

Spirit Breaker when there are mages present.


Void Strike and Dual Fang have the same damage
- Void Strike has the benefit of being long distance and marginally faster while Dual Fang has two chances of critical hits. If you want more consistent damage, go for Void Strike otherwise go for Dual Fang for that low chance of double critical hits.

Void Storm and Triple Fang have the same damage
- Void Storm has the benefit of being a long range attack and noticeably faster than Triple Fang. Like the difference between Void Strike and Dual Fang, Triple Fang's three hits give you that extra chance to critical hit more often than Void Storm. Try to go for Void Storm rather than Triple Fang if you want more consistent damage than erratic bursts.

Beast Claw is the second fastest slash move you have - if you're hasted and have a weight burden that's a total of 1.05 seconds (light armour = 0.15, medium = 0.3 and heavy = 0.45) then 30% HP is about the right amount to continually cancel Beast Claw into each other. This outdamages Void Strike, Void Storm, Deadly Fang and even comes close to rivalling most players' 30% HP Final Stand Deathdrivers.

The fastest slash move you have is Hack - but you're going to need around 10% or less HP to cancel this move into itself. If you can get yourself Fate Favours in some consistent way (and not get knocked down) then this is your best slash damage output over time.

If you have it, Enfeebling Counter is a Slash move that's really helpful if you know when the enemy's going to attack you - since you have such a fast action circle, you should be able to know how many times you can hit an enemy before they'll hit you back.


Dragon Fang and Final Fang are both very good Thrust moves - but if one of Final Fang's hits miss, you'll deal the same damage as Wolf's Grin. Overall, Dragon Fang is faster and more consistent for me but using Final Fang's not too different from Dragon Fang/Giant Claw cancelling.
Giant Claw deals the same amount of damage as Wolf's Grin but hits twice and is marginally faster.


The best times to use both Final Fang and Deadly Fang is when you have a very slow circle speed or rely on the safety of a long animation on a single attack - such as if you're wearing full heavy armour or you're beating on a Duke Gigas Turkey form etc.



It takes 2-3 Void Strikes/Beast Claws to gain 1 AC as Longsword making it very easy to use up your AC for Anchor Blade, combos, Transforming and Enfeebling Counter.

Dex matters a lot more to LS than other classes - critical hits are a good source of additional damage - especially for Beast Claw and Void Strike. The more Dex you have, the more chances of dealing critical hits - but this changes ever-so-slightly with every weapon type (Bows have one of the worse times with dealing critical hits, for instance).



Theoretically, you could Transform into a Spear Knight for 7AC, use Dragoon's Rage, Revert, Mana Potion IV yourself, Haste yourself, Demon's Aura, Last Resort 4 times then proceed to Beast Claw around 8 to 20 times before Dragoon's Rage runs out depending on how helpful your team is for you (you can also force your NPCs to Haste you and Spirit's Hymn you etc.).


My main command bar looks like this:

[+Void Crash] [Void Storm] [Void Strike] [Crackdown] [4AC Slash combo] [Magic Breaker] [Anchor Blade]
[Serpent's Fang] [Dragon Fang] [Giant Claw] [Holy Light] [6AC Thrust combo] [Demon's Aura] [Spirit Breaker]
[Enfeebling Counter] [Dragon Claw] [Fate's Favour] [Heal IV] [4AC Strike combo] [Fatigue] [Mollify]

My 4AC Strike combo is:
Dual Fang > Grinder > Dragon Claw > Crackdown

Dual Fang and Crackdown are both stronger and faster than Fang and Dragonfall so when you use it on Strike weak enemies, it's better overall than Fang > Grinder > Dragon Claw > (Sky Grinder) > Dragonfall. Also, back to backing three 4AC combos is much more viable than stringing three 5AC combos together since you'll need at least 1AC leftover for Anchor Blade.

what last poster said. I do all of that except best claw and dual fang, ill try it out nxt time I get on

I have something like 84% in Longsword - I skipped out on Deadeye Blade and the two sets of elemental attacks.

I know you cover it partially but I've always wondered why some LS users use Magic and Spirit Ward over Magic and Spirit Breaker... (Same as Axes that use Arm and Armour Break over Arm and Armour Shatter) but I never thought that they just "covered the basics" and want to do it all... but meh. Not like it matters in the end.

I also forgot to mention - if you play as a semi-light weight LS relying on Adrenaline Rush, you're going to be flung around a lot since you have no super armour or long animations to keep you rooted to the floor. If you don't get Adrenaline Rush at all, then you should go full heavy and spam Deadly/Final Fang to your heart's content. You won't deal massive damage over time but you'll at least hi fairly high numbers.