CQC Controls?

I know that there are about 4 different types of CQC available to Snake, yet I couldn't figure out how to perform them when playing the tutorial, due to the language barrier. I know this however because there were 4 different directions within the tutorial which involved the R button and the Analog stick. So this must mean that there are different ways to perform CQC, as I happened to only get the throw out of the 4 (1/4). One of these moves must be the one where Snake pulls the foe to the ground and proceeds to choke them, as seen in the trailer. Has anyone else figure all the controls out?

quote Machienzo

I know that there are about 4 different types of CQC available to Snake, yet I couldn't figure out how to perform them when playing the tutorial, due to the language barrier. I know this however because there were 4 different directions within the tutorial which involved the R button and the Analog stick. So this must mean that there are different ways to perform CQC, as I happened to only get the throw out of the 4 (1/4). One of these moves must be the one where Snake pulls the foe to the ground and proceeds to choke them, as seen in the trailer. Has anyone else figure all the controls out?

Try moving the analogue stick just slightly. Apparently Kojima Productions decided that instead of being too innacurate, the PSP's analogue stick can handle multi-stage movement. My PSP is 'well-loved', and as such the analogue stick is a bit worn down and isn't as precise any more. Dammit.

One of the R+ Ana Stick tutorials is about throwing a person into another person, and I'm fairly certain the other is about chaining. I don't know though, all the Japanese I know is "Konichiwa", "Arigato", and "Nando" (I think that's it- It's 'What's that?')

Hmm, maybe Koji.

Anyway, Machi? I realised that in that trailer where Snake sneaks up on that guard and starts choking him, he never actually goes into a crouching position. He moves down a bit, then then camera moves up quickly, then it cuts to a new scene. It just looks, for a brief second, like he's sitting down.

Hmm, I still don't know. It IS just a demo though, we've only gotten a taste of the entire game. So, it may appear in the full game.

Here's hoping it is an expanded CQC system. So far, we're not even able to shoot over a hostage's shoulder.

quote Machienzo

The Controls for that might be a bit awkward. Unless when you've grabbed them with R, you hold L and let go of R. Then you can freely move and shoot.

Something has to be done to stop the auto-choke. I DO NOT LIKE IT!!

quote Machienzo

Yeah. In practically all MGS games, you could hold someone and move at the same time. Though one wonders why they'd hold it off from the demo. Perhaps trying to keep some stuff on the down-low due to development into improving the old system?

Even teh demo has a couple of character-related bugs in it.

Crouch with a MK.22, then stand. The pistol will rotate in Snake's hand in an odd fashion.

And, at the end of the second mission, where Snake clears the enemies' base, at the cutscene his hand goes through his M16 rifle. So, they've even got little bugs like that popping up in regular, easy-to-spot actions. So it's pretty barebones at the moment, so we can expect a lot more from the final product.

Also, WTF is with all the M16's? Everyone carries them everywhere, regardless of whether it's in their inventory or not. I would rather see everyone have a permanent M1911 in their inventory, as a backup weapon, that they could wave around in cutscenes. Or maybe the devs are working on representing the weapons your character has equipped instead of the M16.