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Evolution Aura Resident Neo since: Jan 2004	Nov 15, 09 at 9:42pm Chivalry vs Equality
	More often than not, these two "noble" ideals do not go hand in hand. Equality claims each person should be treated the same, regardless of gender (as well as race, age, upbringing etc). Chivalry claims that males should be respectful, helpful and courteous towards females. If chivalry claims that males alone should treat females in such a manner, not vice versa; how does equality come into the equation? Discuss your thoughts, ideas and general attitude on this contradiction. ------------------- Their World Will Never Take Me ~ They Will Never Desecrate My Soul ~ Survival Horror Social ~
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rasberyl Enter Borderlands mad messenger total posts: 347 since: Apr 2009	Nov 15, 09 at 10:02pm re: Chivalry vs Equality
	Equality and Chivarly are like bread and butter: you cant have one without the other. Chivarly shouldwork vise versa therefore vise versa Chivarly is Equality so they are one in the same. ------------------- ain't no rest for the wicked
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Agent Mo Balance is key Hooked on Neo total posts: 4583 since: Apr 2008	Nov 15, 09 at 10:05pm re: Chivalry vs Equality
	Berry's got a good point, and one that i very much agree with ------------------- You can take games out of my life, but you can't take my life out of games.
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Ded Valve There's a party in my pants ultra seeker total posts: 1450 since: Nov 2008	Nov 15, 09 at 10:14pm re: Chivalry vs Equality
	Tbh I only use Chivarly (hate that word) when I have to. Like going out to a wedding or some other fancy party where I have to be a gent. to impress God knows who and stuff. But the rest of the time I treat everyone equal. With a pessimistic view, sarcastic remark and filled with distafull jokes. Some guys hate certain things but if a female likes it they suddenly like it to. All to impress and or satisfy a female. I HATE those type of guys. I always go out with brutal honesty. ------------------- RE5 IS RACIST!!!
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Deception My mask of sanity is about to slip seek-o-holic total posts: 972 since: Dec 2006	Nov 15, 09 at 10:35pm re: Chivalry vs Equality
	There once was a time where being Chivalrmatic(word check?) meant being a gentleman and women were thankfull for that. But now its just become customary, and that's bullshit.
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Paper Fox Wins Nobel Prize for Sexual Chemistry threadnought total posts: 670 since: Mar 2009	Nov 15, 09 at 11:29pm re: Chivalry vs Equality
	quote Deception There once was a time where being Chivalrmatic(word check?) meant being a gentleman and women were thankfull for that. But now its just become customary, and that's bullshit. Chivalrous/Chivalric. Chivralmatic sounds like a robot Chivalry doesn't necessarily mean men being curteous towards women, but that's what people generally think it means. Chivalry can go both ways. ------------------- If love is a labour, I'll slave til the end
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Ded Valve There's a party in my pants ultra seeker total posts: 1450 since: Nov 2008	Nov 16, 09 at 12:21am re: Chivalry vs Equality
	Oh my god this word is grinding my ears! And Fox is right it's not uncommon for a girl to be...... the "C" word to a guy. ------------------- RE5 IS RACIST!!!
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supreme kai Caaaaptain Caaaveemaaaan! (moderator) Resident Evil 5 Survival Horror Social wiki staff residentevil since: Dec 2004	Nov 16, 09 at 12:43am re: Chivalry vs Equality
	Sexism and Equality should be viewed as exclusive of each other, simply because of the courtesy expressed through chivalry, unless of course you wish to combat the ideal... Which you do! So I'll give my opinions; supporting and the put-down: Equality is the ideal, it is something which all good people wish for. The problem is that Chivalry is not bad, it is a harmless, taught courtesy — and not a form of discrimination. One could argue that it is jealousy that drives those who wish to combat the ideal, a worse trait. Although Chivalry is of good intent, is is sex-exclusive, which nullifies this. The courtesy expressed through the ideal is admirable, although the fact that these courtesies are not carried and performed equally is not. Sharply; Why shoot down something such a Chivalry (which exists) in the course towards Equality (something which does not exist, and is never likely to). Although it is a sex-exclusive ideal, it is admirable and of good intent. Chivalry is a step in the right direction.
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Ajax The only Cosmonaut (moderator) Fallout 3 [PS3] since: Dec 2004	Nov 16, 09 at 8:14am re: Chivalry vs Equality
	quote Ded Valve Tbh I only use Chivarly (hate that word) when I have to. Like going out to a wedding or some other fancy party where I have to be a gent. to impress God knows who and stuff. But the rest of the time I treat everyone equal. With a pessimistic view, sarcastic remark and filled with distafull jokes. Some guys hate certain things but if a female likes it they suddenly like it to. All to impress and or satisfy a female. I HATE those type of guys. I always go out with brutal honesty. To me, you're entire outlook is warped. You're just having a rant for the sake of having a rant. There's a big difference between being honest and being chivalrous. I'm brutally honest, yet I'm a gent to any and all women I meet (A common courtesy), until I'm sure I like them, then I'm the cheeky, confident bugger I'm known to be. There's also a huge difference between not being confident enough in yourself to stand your ground when you and a girl have different tastes and chivalry. See, you, being pessimistic, sarcastic etc. are not someone I would like to be around in the slightest, regardless if I was male or female. Those aren't traits I like in people, and I can tell, due to you having these traits, you're angsty about the entire chivalry concept because it involves NOT being pessimistic and sarcastic, but genuinely nice to people. Just my 5 cents. ------------------- Jak and Daxter IV: The Lost Frontier GreaterAjax :PSN-XBL: DynamicAjax
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Existence A Man Chooses, A Slave Obeys. Neolithic total posts: 6997 neopoints: 138 GameGrep pts: 2706 since: May 2005	Nov 16, 09 at 9:35am re: Chivalry vs Equality
	quote supreme kai Equality is the ideal, it is something which all good people wish for. The problem is that Chivalry is not bad, it is a harmless, taught courtesy — and not a form of discrimination. One could argue that it is jealousy that drives those who wish to combat the ideal, a worse trait. Although Chivalry is of good intent, is is sex-exclusive, which nullifies this. The courtesy expressed through the ideal is admirable, although the fact that these courtesies are not carried and performed equally is not. Well put. Equality is an ideal, much like secularism. Chivalry is a courtesy. The two of them seem mutually exclusive if you think that chivalry is a consequence of females being "inferior" to males. Once one realizes that it is not, and is simply a form of, well, good manners, one can come to the conclusion that once can be chivalrous while still practicing equality of the sexes. ------------------- Oct' 09: Uncharted 2\|\|Borderlands \|\|Digiport\|\|Playstation 3\|\| Formerly z fighter
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Boontz_Lottie Beautiful and suicidal Still Seekin' since: Jan 2004	Nov 16, 09 at 11:20am re: Chivalry vs Equality
	I generally prefer equality, I wouldn't expect my boyfriend to carry my bags or pay my way all the time. If we're going out though, I guess I like - and almost expect - a certain level of chivalry, especially if I've gone to the effort of dressing up, doing my hair, and doing my make-up. Like, buying the first round of drinks, hailing a cab, opening doors, etc. -------------------
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ShinobiDyne true seeker (2K Remix) since: Oct 2006	Nov 19, 09 at 6:14pm re: Chivalry vs Equality
	I can't really say which ones right, because there is no way to distinguish them. Chivalry is something that although some people may find close minded, happens all the time. Say for whatever reason I got in a fight with a women, not being sexist here, but women most of the time are usually weaker. I wouldn't hit her, unless she was armed of course. I would try to restrain her if not. That isn't exactly an example of chivalry, but it symbolises that overall (again not being sexist here) that males are the dominant gender, in most cases that is. Maybe not mentally but physically. I don't think it's that males are more respectful towards women. I see it as a more of a trying to impress kind of gesture, mostly in young men. Equality is something I can't decide on, over the years especially in the UK and the USA equality has been brought into more of a mainstream light with homosexuality and other races being accepted. But not everything can be equal. I'm just rambling on here, and I'm probably just sounding like an idiot reading this passage in my head, and I probably didn't even answer the questions. But that's my thoughts right there. ------------------- Drugs is like bleeping a gorilla, you don't stop until the gorillas finished - Dave Mustaine
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