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Mastix First Prophet of Capturism heilKeima o/ (moderator) Anime since: May 2004	Oct 10, 11 at 4:34am ^ re: Fate/Zero
	Log in to remove this sponsored message quote Angel in Shadows quote Luis_GT well... I often skip anything that involves magical girl... I'm sorry but this it just won't work out. Mastix - I actually enjoyed Dark Sakura, but it sucks just how twisted her origin story is, and seeing it in Fate/Zero just ramps the "OMG LET ME HUG AND LOVE YOU SAKURA CHAN AND TAKE YOU HOME TO SAVE YOU" to 11 (and possibly beyond) for me. Zouken is such an ass, but I guess his back story justifies it. Luis_GT, Don't get me wrong, I liked the arc, but it hurts to read. Episode 2 with the bugs inspired all of my rage at Zouken. I don't think anything justifies him. Nothing at all. Sakura definitely activates my LET ME SAVE YOU instincts, as well as the LET ME (TRY TO) BEAT THE EVER LOVING CRAP OUT OF ZOUKEN AND SHINJI senses. Also Luis, Madoka = unlike any other Magical Girl. Still watch it. It's different than Clannad. Also Nanoha though. Nanoha has all of my love. ------------------- "Sit back, listen in, and sip some moe with us." ~The ANIME FORUM
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Tiger go Meow Hooked on Caffeine Neo or Bust total posts: 7320 since: Feb 2002	Oct 10, 11 at 4:38am ^ re: Fate/Zero
	quote Mastix quote Angel in Shadows quote Luis_GT well... I often skip anything that involves magical girl... I'm sorry but this it just won't work out. Mastix - I actually enjoyed Dark Sakura, but it sucks just how twisted her origin story is, and seeing it in Fate/Zero just ramps the "OMG LET ME HUG AND LOVE YOU SAKURA CHAN AND TAKE YOU HOME TO SAVE YOU" to 11 (and possibly beyond) for me. Zouken is such an ass, but I guess his back story justifies it. Luis_GT, Don't get me wrong, I liked the arc, but it hurts to read. Episode 2 with the bugs inspired all of my rage at Zouken. I don't think anything justifies him. Nothing at all. Sakura definitely activates my LET ME SAVE YOU instincts, as well as the LET ME (TRY TO) BEAT THE EVER LOVING CRAP OUT OF ZOUKEN AND SHINJI senses. Also Luis, Madoka = unlike any other Magical Girl. Still watch it. It's different than Clannad. Also Nanoha though. Nanoha has all of my love. I meant justifies as in character and plot sense. Does not mean I agree with his character. I could shove his meaty bald head into a blender, and then kidnap Sakura-chan. I feel so bad for the actually good brother while I watch Zero. I want to reach out and help him save her so much, but knowing Night...knowing the arcs...-sighs- commences faceroll on keyboard IWILLKILLYOUZOUKEN! Sensible Voice: Sleep Deprivation is settling in. ------------------- Say "ahh~"
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Kanon You Rock, Megaman. Neoholic since: Nov 2008	Oct 10, 11 at 4:38am ^ re: Fate/Zero
	Mastix this is the part where you tell them they're getting a little off topic and should ~~help clusterbleep the GD even more~~ take it to the GD while waving a hammer slightly. quote Angel in Shadows Kanon - I have yet to play the VN's, and I want to. I've seen some of the images, but not read the material... Spoiler:Enjoy ------------------- "Are you daft?"
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Tiger go Meow Hooked on Caffeine Neo or Bust total posts: 7320 since: Feb 2002	Oct 10, 11 at 4:40am ^ re: Fate/Zero
	Spoiler: Curry-licious...breasts... nosebleed ------------------- Say "ahh~"
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ssbm freak R.I.P. Danny Permanently Plugged In since: May 2005	Oct 10, 11 at 4:45am ^ re: Fate/Zero
	Spoiler:Stay/Night Rider Rider was actually one of the more powerful servants but Shinji was complete crap for a master. In the anime she never got to use Breaker Gorgon(The removal of the mask) which would have different effects on each servant. Saber: Would be Paralyzed, if her will wavers OHKOd.(She'll simply take a hit in abilities if controlled by Rin. Saber Alter would be virtually unaffected.) Archer: Same as Saber. Berserker: Wouldn't be paralyzed but he'd take a large hit in all of his abilities.(Berserker's attack power would actually drop and be at the same level as Rider's) Assassin: OHKOd Caster: Virtually unaffected. Lancer: OHKOd Just with Breaker Gorgon alone her opponents left would be Caster, Berserker, and in certain cases Saber. Statwise Rider would curbstomp caster. Meaning the only servant that would be capable of rivaling her in the story would've been Berserker. Though personally I think it'd end there as I don't think Rider could defeat God Hand. Also Berserker would still be more durable. At the very least Rider would out speed Berserker at this point(which is a huge accomplishment. That dude is fast.) Oh and Gilgamesh? He'd fall under the Paralysis or OHKOd section. tl;dr Rider is way more badass in the hands of a capable master. I think Tokiomi is winning this war.
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Mastix First Prophet of Capturism heilKeima o/ (moderator) Anime since: May 2004	Oct 10, 11 at 4:46am ^ re: Fate/Zero
	Kanon, don't tell me what to do. waves hammer around slightly :awesomeface: Angel in Shadows, lol, there's a reason why many refer to the anime forum as the Insomniac Board. None of us sleep. Anyway, Kariya, the poor guy. Seriously, I don't know how he manages it. Guy deserves all of the love, but of course this is a Type/Moon, so no. Spoiler:Fate/Zero Instead Kariya gets all of the doom. He never really stood a chance... ------------------- "Sit back, listen in, and sip some moe with us." ~The ANIME FORUM
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Fatal Error Still Seekin' since: Aug 2004	Oct 10, 11 at 4:52am ^ re: Fate/Zero
	Fate/Zero and Fate/Stay Night are actually extended allegories of Nasu's views on Utilitarian and Kantian ethics. Spoiler: Nasu is anti-utilitarian. ------------------- So what's the use of knowing the truth if no one's gonna believe you?
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Mastix First Prophet of Capturism heilKeima o/ (moderator) Anime since: May 2004	Oct 10, 11 at 5:03am ^ re: Fate/Zero
	quote Fatal Error Fate/Zero and Fate/Stay Night are actually extended allegories of Nasu's views on Utilitarian and Kantian ethics. Spoiler: Nasu is anti-utilitarian. I know. His and my philosophy clash a bunch. Damn deontologists. ------------------- "Sit back, listen in, and sip some moe with us." ~The ANIME FORUM
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Fatal Error Still Seekin' since: Aug 2004	Oct 10, 11 at 5:06am ^ re: Fate/Zero
	Yeah, all of Nasu' writings are actually intensely focused on his personal ethics, which makes them both interesting and very excessively wordy and "loldeep" at the same time. I love it just because I find it interesting to read in to the philosophy of others. ------------------- So what's the use of knowing the truth if no one's gonna believe you?
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GhostMember Neolithic total posts: 6863 since: Oct 2006	Oct 10, 11 at 5:18am ^ re: Fate/Zero
	quote ssbm freak Spoiler:Stay/Night Rider Just with Breaker Gorgon alone her opponents left would be Caster, Berserker, and in certain cases Saber. Statwise Rider would curbstomp caster. Meaning the only servant that would be capable of rivaling her in the story would've been Berserker. Though personally I think it'd end there as I don't think Rider could defeat God Hand. Also Berserker would still be more durable. At the very least Rider would out speed Berserker at this point(which is a huge accomplishment. That dude is fast.) Spoiler:Rider Rider wouldn't be able to break through God Hand only because it passively reduces the damage taken from repeated attacks. Bellerophon and Blood Fort Andromeda would eventually go below rank B before she would be able to take off all his lives. I think Caster is fairly underrated. Rule Breaker is bleeping broken, and I bet if she used her reinforcement magic to tank any attacks while she got into close range for RB, she could've gotten nearly all of the Servants under her control. The only times she was killed at full strength were due to surprise attacks by Archer and Gil. In HF, she was already badly wounded when Saber killed her. ------------------- quote Elliot Gale It's called breakfast because eating dinner doesn't go where? D:
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Mastix First Prophet of Capturism heilKeima o/ (moderator) Anime since: May 2004	Oct 10, 11 at 5:24am ^ re: Fate/Zero
	quote Fatal Error Yeah, all of Nasu' writings are actually intensely focused on his personal ethics, which makes them both interesting and very excessively wordy and "loldeep" at the same time. I love it just because I find it interesting to read in to the philosophy of others. Sometimes he gets a bit absurd. I thought in KnK his philosophy was loldeep to the point where he really wasn't saying anything useful or in anyway related to reality. Still interesting, but do you see what I mean? ------------------- "Sit back, listen in, and sip some moe with us." ~The ANIME FORUM
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Tiger go Meow Hooked on Caffeine Neo or Bust total posts: 7320 since: Feb 2002	Oct 10, 11 at 5:51pm ^ re: Fate/Zero
	I like the KnK material, and the warped sense of reality he created in it. I need to read the light novels still, and I heard someone was localizing, but then I can't find it. Not to mention the Blu Ray set...ugh... I hope they bring out a cheaper version or something because there is no way I am paying half a grand or more for a set of blu-rays. Granted I guess the extras are where the price comes into play. Btw, finally started episode 2 and I can say I really like Iskander and Waver so far. ------------------- Say "ahh~"
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Fatal Error Still Seekin' since: Aug 2004	Oct 11, 11 at 4:30am ^ re: Fate/Zero
	quote Mastix quote Fatal Error Yeah, all of Nasu' writings are actually intensely focused on his personal ethics, which makes them both interesting and very excessively wordy and "loldeep" at the same time. I love it just because I find it interesting to read in to the philosophy of others. Sometimes he gets a bit absurd. I thought in KnK his philosophy was loldeep to the point where he really wasn't saying anything useful or in anyway related to reality. Still interesting, but do you see what I mean? I liked watching KnK more than reading it, which is strange because I loved reading Tsukuhime, F/SN and Fate/Zero. KnK is one of Nasu's oldest works, and you can tell by how...excessively wordy it is. ------------------- So what's the use of knowing the truth if no one's gonna believe you?
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Arcliff The Moe Deity s-e-e-k-e-r total posts: 1737 since: Mar 2008	Oct 11, 11 at 12:13pm ^ re: Fate/Zero
	So...I just watched episode 1 and 2. And gawd, they were fantastic. I'm on Kiritsugu and Kariya's side. ------------------- Dark Souls Forum - Dark Souls II Forum
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Mastix First Prophet of Capturism heilKeima o/ (moderator) Anime since: May 2004	Oct 11, 11 at 4:52pm ^ re: Fate/Zero
	Fatal Error, KnK was also freaking beautifully animated. Some of the most gorgeous fight scenes I've ever laid eyes on. But because of that a LOT of detail was lost. It didn't make the plot make any more sense. But I didn't know it was Nasu's first. That explains a lot. quote Arcliff So...I just watched episode 1 and 2. And gawd, they were fantastic. I'm on Kiritsugu and Kariya's side. I feel so damn sorry for Kariya. Not only did he go through a shit ton of suffering to get a servant, he doesn't even get a supportive servant. He gets a frothing at the mouth Berserker. ------------------- "Sit back, listen in, and sip some moe with us." ~The ANIME FORUM
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