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leochan editor total posts: 318 since: Sep 2000	Jun 14, 11 at 12:56am ^ Neoseeker's ASUS UEFI BIOS Review
	Log in to remove this advertisement We look at ASUS' implementation of the new UEFI BIOS, a software interface specification intended to be a user-friendly replacement of existing BIOS firmware. Does it mean it will shed much of what overclockers appreciated in the trusty BIOS firmware of today? ASUS UEFI BIOS Review Edit: Sep 25, 12 3:55pm review ------------------- "The discovery of a new dish does more for human happiness than the discovery of a new star. Tell me what you eat, and I will tell you what you are." - (Jean) Anthleme Brillat-Savarin
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raybies Neo-newbie total posts: 2 since: Jun 2011	Jun 14, 11 at 4:22am ^ re: Neoseeker's ASUS UEFI BIOS Review
	One of the things that REALLY annoys me about BIOS' is that they take forever to load all the devices. My x58 board takes 23 seconds from power on to BIOS password, and then 6 seconds to Windows password. If I could get the BIOS/UEFI loaded faster I'd be happy. So Carl, what's the device recognition speed like??? vs a BIOS? Speed test please.
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The Smith staff writer total posts: 112 since: Feb 2009	Jun 14, 11 at 11:20am ^ re: Neoseeker's ASUS UEFI BIOS Review
	quote raybies One of the things that REALLY annoys me about BIOS' is that they take forever to load all the devices. My x58 board takes 23 seconds from power on to BIOS password, and then 6 seconds to Windows password. If I could get the BIOS/UEFI loaded faster I'd be happy. So Carl, what's the device recognition speed like??? vs a BIOS? Speed test please. Hey, To do that I would need to have a board which I can flash to a standard BIOS or an UEFI. The ones I have are the ASUS E35M1 which do not have any BIOS implementation. For your X58 board however, you might want to disable the dedicated controllers you don't use via the BIOS. If disabled, they won't have to be initialized. An example would be an extra SATA/IDE controller. Setting your southbridge to RAID mode also adds some delay. If you don't have RAID arrays, set it to AHCI instead.
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Shadow of Death Grushdeva du kalt misht (category mod) My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic PC Games total posts: 25367 GameGrep pts: 3900 since: Feb 2003	Jun 14, 11 at 4:13pm ^ re: Neoseeker's ASUS UEFI BIOS Review
	Seems pretty brilliant, though I'm just a bios layman and such. Heh, Zebibytes/yobibytes XD It's about time they moved on. I can certainly see this catching on, actually. It's the sort of feature that the average user won't even realize is there, and the rest of us who actually have cause to use it will find the update satisfying. ------------------- α Ω Blood Dragon ~\| Rift \|~ Starbound
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raybies Neo-newbie total posts: 2 since: Jun 2011	Jun 15, 11 at 1:15am ^ re: Neoseeker's ASUS UEFI BIOS Review
	quote The Smith Hey, To do that I would need to have a board which I can flash to a standard BIOS or an UEFI. The ones I have are the ASUS E35M1 which do not have any BIOS implementation. For your X58 board however, you might want to disable the dedicated controllers you don't use via the BIOS. If disabled, they won't have to be initialized. An example would be an extra SATA/IDE controller. Setting your southbridge to RAID mode also adds some delay. If you don't have RAID arrays, set it to AHCI instead. I know how to setup my MB, and it doesn't change the fact that BIOS' are slow to initialize and identify system devices. I have 2 video cards + PCI-E audio + RAID0 + Bluray + AHCI HD I've disabled the other RAID card, and USB3. Subjectively speaking... is UEFI faster to initialize and identify system devices? I timed my bootup again... 27 seconds from power on to BIOS PW, then 8 seconds to Win7 x64 Logon. MB: Asus P6X58D P Thanks.
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The Smith staff writer total posts: 112 since: Feb 2009	Jun 16, 11 at 1:06pm ^ re: Neoseeker's ASUS UEFI BIOS Review
	quote raybies quote The Smith Hey, To do that I would need to have a board which I can flash to a standard BIOS or an UEFI. The ones I have are the ASUS E35M1 which do not have any BIOS implementation. For your X58 board however, you might want to disable the dedicated controllers you don't use via the BIOS. If disabled, they won't have to be initialized. An example would be an extra SATA/IDE controller. Setting your southbridge to RAID mode also adds some delay. If you don't have RAID arrays, set it to AHCI instead. I know how to setup my MB, and it doesn't change the fact that BIOS' are slow to initialize and identify system devices. I have 2 video cards + PCI-E audio + RAID0 + Bluray + AHCI HD I've disabled the other RAID card, and USB3. Subjectively speaking... is UEFI faster to initialize and identify system devices? I timed my bootup again... 27 seconds from power on to BIOS PW, then 8 seconds to Win7 x64 Logon. MB: Asus P6X58D P Thanks. For sure the BIOS initialization time really depends on the board. For example, with the ASUS M4A89GTD-PRO/USB3, Neoseeker's standard test platform, if I disable most controllers, by the time the monitor detects the input and comes out of sleep, the computer is already at the Windows booting stage, displaying the logo.
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WCarp Neo-newbie total posts: 1 since: Sep 2011	Sep 10, 11 at 8:52pm ^ re: Neoseeker's ASUS UEFI BIOS Review
	After purchasing two ASUS Sabertooth 990FX motherboards which have a UEFI BIOS, I found that neither motherboard would POST with an Adaptec 5805 RAID card on it. After further testing--and some frustration, I and Adaptec determined that the 5805 was incompatible with the ASUS board. The Tech had me RMA the first 5805 because he thought the card was defective so he wasn't aware of the following info on Adaptec's Knowledgebase. According to Adaptec's Knowledgebase at: http://ask.adaptec.com/scripts/adaptec_tic.cfg/php.exe/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=17087&p_created=1305289854&p_sid=Bwh4Y1Dk&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX3NvcnRfYnk9JnBfZ3JpZHNvcnQ9JnBfcm93X2NudD0yNDkxLDI0OTEmcF9wcm9kcz0mcF9jYXRzPSZwX3B2PSZwX2N2PSZwX3NlYXJjaF90eXBlPWFuc3dlcnMuc2VhcmNoX25sJnBfcGFnZT0x&p_li=&p_topview=1 none of Adaptec's controllers are UEFI compliant! It is interesting that even though Adaptec surely knew about the new type of BIOS coming out for some time, that they still, according to their Knowledgebase article, do not have any compliant controllers. I did find though, interestingly, that Adaptec's 2405 RAID card will work on the motherboard. Now, Adaptec is supposed to be attempting to find out why the 5805 doesn't work and the 2405 does. I hope they find out and can implement a fix soon!
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djtu574386wd5 unwashed heathen (guest) IP: Logged	Jan 29, 12 at 1:11pm ^ re: Neoseeker's ASUS UEFI BIOS Review
	Man how much did they pay you to pump out that brown noser review. I work on computers as a tech 40 hours a week and the asus & asrock and the like, the bios gui are useless garbage. The first ever version of windows ~ first ever apple gui are better, Hell even the first gui xerox pumped out is probably better. The asus eufi bios besides the other problems of possibly trying to block other os from running ~ installing and being a joke for other apps to hack peeks cpu use for no reason , first ever windows gui can run off a 12mgz cpu and one meg of main system ram. Just try and click on something and its a glitch fest, that and options are miss-categorized and lets not forget the broken cHina-shEnGlieh, All your base are belong to us. Its not better its worse and made for people that don’t know how to work a bios and for people like that they shouldn't be in the bios in the first place and don’t even get me started about the bios auto overclock topic or should I say auto suicide option. Normal stile of gpi I can work it 10x faster then a UEFI bios. And yes im all for a face lift to the old stile bios but man a 16 year old with 3 years of computer science in high school could do better and im guessing the EUFI bios on the asus mobo was made my monkeys.
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The Smith staff writer total posts: 112 since: Feb 2009	Jan 31, 12 at 1:26pm ^ re: Neoseeker's ASUS UEFI BIOS Review
	quote djtu574386wd5 Man how much did they pay you to pump out that brown noser review. I work on computers as a tech 40 hours a week and the asus & asrock and the like, the bios gui are useless garbage. The first ever version of windows ~ first ever apple gui are better, Hell even the first gui xerox pumped out is probably better. The asus eufi bios besides the other problems of possibly trying to block other os from running ~ installing and being a joke for other apps to hack peeks cpu use for no reason , first ever windows gui can run off a 12mgz cpu and one meg of main system ram. Just try and click on something and its a glitch fest, that and options are miss-categorized and lets not forget the broken cHina-shEnGlieh, All your base are belong to us. Its not better its worse and made for people that don’t know how to work a bios and for people like that they shouldn't be in the bios in the first place and don’t even get me started about the bios auto overclock topic or should I say auto suicide option. Normal stile of gpi I can work it 10x faster then a UEFI bios. And yes im all for a face lift to the old stile bios but man a 16 year old with 3 years of computer science in high school could do better and im guessing the EUFI bios on the asus mobo was made my monkeys. It looks like you will have to do with UEFI, as most big manufacturers have now made the switch. I am sincerely sorry for you; I understand your pain of working with something you decided to hate. Personally, I do like the new UEFI from ASUS, for the very reaons explained in the article, and as much as it may surprise you, no incentive is being distributed with review requests. Have you played with the implementations of other manufacturers such as the Gigabyte 3D BIOS? The MSI Click BIOS?
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malmsteenisgod starting to like it total posts: 59 since: Jul 2008	Jan 31, 12 at 5:32pm ^ re: Neoseeker's ASUS UEFI BIOS Review
	I have the MSI X79A-GD65 (8D) and I can't think of anything that I dislike about it. In fact I think it's pretty incredible. MSI has this thing called MSI Winki, which allows you to use a web browser and a ton of other stuff within UEFI, which is a really nice feature when you just want to look up some of the terms or overclocking features or when you're having some hardware issues or boot issues and you need to use the internet. Being able to use the mouse is a nice feature, but not necessary. Having the option to use the mouse never hurts. And so what if it has auto overclocking features? If one doesn't like them, one doesn't have to use them.
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criticalconstructive Neo-newbie total posts: 2 since: Jun 2012	Jun 16, 12 at 2:26pm ^ re: Neoseeker's ASUS UEFI BIOS Review
	I am going to buy an A8-3870K this month and need a good mainboard for it. I favourize the Asus F1A75-V Pro. I want to overclock DDR3-RAM from 1866 to 2000-2133 MHz. I will also overclock CPU and GPU, but only some MHz. And therefore 1 information, very important, which I was unable to find in manual or reviews: Does the Asus F1A75-V Pro also support a GPU clock-divider or a separate setting-option for the GPU clock in BIOS? It would be great, if you could answer this question.
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The Smith staff writer total posts: 112 since: Feb 2009	Jun 16, 12 at 2:32pm ^ re: Neoseeker's ASUS UEFI BIOS Review
	quote criticalconstructive I am going to buy an A8-3870K this month and need a good mainboard for it. I favourize the Asus F1A75-V Pro. I want to overclock DDR3-RAM from 1866 to 2000-2133 MHz. I will also overclock CPU and GPU, but only some MHz. And therefore 1 information, very important, which I was unable to find in manual or reviews: Does the Asus F1A75-V Pro also support a GPU clock-divider or a separate setting-option for the GPU clock in BIOS? It would be great, if you could answer this question. Hi! Have a look at our A75 motherboard roundup recently published. On the page about overclocking, you will see a screenshot with the GPU divider decreased to 4.5 instead of the stock 6, so yeah the ASUS boards have that setting, and lots more. Along with the reference clock increase, that gave 976MHz. Take a peek at the performance in the following pages, it's quite impressive. Good luck with your build!
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criticalconstructive Neo-newbie total posts: 2 since: Jun 2012	Jun 17, 12 at 2:29pm ^ re: Neoseeker's ASUS UEFI BIOS Review
	Hey man! Big thanks for your quick reply. I'm definitely gonna buy the Asus A75 mainboard. I don't go for aggressive overlclocking CPU and GPU, but for RAM. RAM is the bottle-neck at APUs, especially at the ones with powerful GPU units. Thanks again and best from Austria.
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ashantiqua unwashed heathen (guest) IP: Logged	Jun 17, 12 at 7:10pm ^ re: Neoseeker's ASUS UEFI BIOS Review
	a computer i recently built for a friend has a mobo with uefi bios. i really dont care how the settings are organized, how the UI looks, etc., i just care about the actual settings youre giving me to play around with, and his mobo has a lot of settings juicy settings (e.g. individual system fan profiles).
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zeroday1 unwashed heathen (guest) IP: Logged	Dec 30, 12 at 12:47pm ^ re: Neoseeker's ASUS UEFI BIOS Review
	I think the UEFI BIOS used by ASUS is quite intuitive. Yes, there may be some aspects of it that could stand to be improved but overall it is a much better option than the old BIOS. Even for a tech, it just makes sense because it streamlines most of the options in a better interface and it gives a lot more descriptions about its components than the old BIOS, which is a nice feature even for an expert. Again, one could make the argument that its not perfect...but then again...what is...or...who is for that matter?... We'll always find new ways to improve things as the years come and go. That's what keeps driving ingenuity and the need to keep moving forward. I agree that they could organize the interface a lot better, include more comprehensive descriptions and use less resources but for the sake of saving time and being more accessible to the average user, it just makes sense. And who knows, maybe tweaks that follow in the years to come will take into account these factors that are obviously a concern to many...
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