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May 16, 09 at 2:09am
New - Related Forum Threads and Related Forums

I've completed an upgrade so that the NeoWikis now automatically link to related threads and related forums in content pages. The algorithm is automatic and tries to be very picky to try to keep things related, and I think it works pretty well overall.

This appears at the bottom of pages, IF the system can find related threads.

Here are some pages where this is in action:

http://finalfantasy.neoseeker.com/wiki/To_Ambervale
http://gta.neoseeker.com/wiki/Ricardo_Diaz
http://pes.neoseeker.com/wiki/Bundesliga
http://gta.neoseeker.com/wiki/Cluckin'_Bell

Sometimes the related threads are not so good, I'm hoping to have tekmosis make a _NO_RELATED_THREADS_ flag to suppress them in situations where they become a problem.

These portions of the page will not show up to you when you edit the page, as they are automatically generated and appended only when you view the page.


This message was edited by Redemption on May 15 2009.


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re: New - Related Forum Threads and Related Forums

Could you put links to those sections in the ToC by chance?

Also, maybe keeping it off the Main Page would be a good idea as it should already have links to related forums and recent threads at the bottom.
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I already attempt to keep it off the Main Page but I'm using the wrong test I think, I'm trying to figure out how to fix it now .

Putting it into the TOC is something I'm going to have to investigate but it is definitely a good thing to have.

--UPDATE--

Ok I got it, the custom title was causing my test to fail. So I used another value. I wanted to hide it on the Main Page because it does look silly.

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That's great Red. How about making the Related Games section added to each page but make it optional to change which games are listed? As seen here, V Rock is heard in Vice City, but not in San Andreas and is heard in VCS, but that is not on the list. I think there should be an option to change what games the section links to.

EDIT: Similar to what overKill mentioned.


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May 16, 09 at 7:24am
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That generally should be done manually to be honest... a good way to do it is to create a template where you simply have to do something like "gta=y |gta4=y |gtasa=n" etc... for the ones for which it does appear in and for the ones that it doesn't. I think having it done automatically would be overkill, and in most cases, you wouldn't want it to appear.

But great update. Can't wait to get back to the helm of a wiki in a fortnights time




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May 16, 09 at 4:26pm
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quote Krunal
That generally should be done manually to be honest... a good way to do it is to create a template where you simply have to do something like "gta=y |gta4=y |gtasa=n" etc... for the ones for which it does appear in and for the ones that it doesn't. I think having it done automatically would be overkill, and in most cases, you wouldn't want it to appear.

But great update. Can't wait to get back to the helm of a wiki in a fortnights time



    You say my name?

    Yeah, but if you didn't want it to appear...


    _NO_RELATED_FORUMS_
    _NO_RELATED_TOPICS_
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May 16, 09 at 5:37pm
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Actually, following in with the built-in behavior switches, you would probably want to do __NORELATEDFORUMS__ and __NORELATEDTOPICS__

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I agree with Prom on that. Also, perhaps a __NORELATED__ to get rid of both.



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May 17, 09 at 3:25am
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I actually like this feature, as it has populated related topics as it should, and I haven't seen any problems with it. Although I guess in some instances, there would be practicality in this not being displayed, to keep a page tidy (for example a character page).


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May 17, 09 at 8:49am
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quote overKill
    Yeah, but if you didn't want it to appear...

    _NO_RELATED_FORUMS_
    _NO_RELATED_TOPICS_
The problem comes from the fact that there are over 1000 pages on the Stargate Wiki that I'd need to add that to, and every page thus forth, because essentially the related forums are all the forums, since it all ties in together... I'd rather have a _RELATED_FORUMS_ that you'd have to manually put than an automatic over all wiki pages, and having to disable them manually.



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May 17, 09 at 9:21am
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quote Krunal
quote overKill
    Yeah, but if you didn't want it to appear...

    _NO_RELATED_FORUMS_
    _NO_RELATED_TOPICS_
The problem comes from the fact that there are over 1000 pages on the Stargate Wiki that I'd need to add that to, and every page thus forth,
Now now Krunal, you know that that won't be that big of a deal.
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If this were on WikiGuides, I could include a Template on every page (through Template:Auto) on which you could basically list all pages on which you would like a certain tag to be added via a #switch array with {{PAGENAME}}. Is there any way (not via legitimate Templates) that this same effect could be achieved on the other Wikis? It would be a security risk to have the complete functionality of a Template, where anything could be added to all pages at once, but perhaps something could be coded behind the scenes to simply interpret a plain list of page names.
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quote Kunsel
quote Krunal
quote overKill
    Yeah, but if you didn't want it to appear...

    _NO_RELATED_FORUMS_
    _NO_RELATED_TOPICS_
The problem comes from the fact that there are over 1000 pages on the Stargate Wiki that I'd need to add that to, and every page thus forth,
Now now Krunal, you know that that won't be that big of a deal.
    Is this implemented yet?


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This is not implemented yet. Implementation is still a ways off...



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