It seems like the creepiest monster, but what's with it..

This message was edited by SerialZero(moderator) on Aug 20 2003.

Valtiel is the otherworld´s "bouncer"; he is at the corner between the two realities and upon operating those valves (at God´s request?) he makes them materialise and subside.
I´ve voluntarilly killed Heather quite a few times but never got this dragging scenne, so I can only venture an uneducated guess;
As you play the game, Heather´s fighting her demonic possession and trying to keep her demonic half dormant in her womb from overtaking her;
that´s what this whole game is about.
When she dies, i.e. collapses to her demonic side, Valtiel comes to drag her like any master of ceremonies would, pulling the princess by the hair to get her in time for her "welcome" party.

I wonder if you have to die at a certain area becuase he would have to have room to take her somewhere like sewer or the sub would do I cant see her being taken away at the hos[ital and the haunted house would probaly be a good chance of seeing that but I dont think its worth dieing for though...

i think so too... in the opening vid it looks like the amusement park.. or maybe me eyes just suck.. i dunno.
but i think there are certain areas.

The first shot of the opening vid (with the weird buzzing, before the music starts) is from the area under the church, but blown up to a close-up you don't see in the game.

so that's why... thanks

It has always happened when I died in the hilltop complex

Int he beginning intro where you see those two leg things...What the hell are those! or from!?

My uneducated guess is that those two sets of girls´legs belong to Claudia and Alessa.

I have no clue whats up with thoese leggs but I know I had Valtiel carry me away when I died in that room with all the nurses and the one with the gun. Anyway, I think Valtiel is sort of like...a guardian to Heather in a way... he looks JUST like pyramid head in SH2!! Same monster maybe??

Maby there heather's and claudia's legs but missed up after being carried away or something? Or they could be huge doll legs...This is very creepy. I heard that a part of the church you see gatkeeper doing something to a nurse is this true?!

Yes, this is true, but I don't think it's necessarily a nurse. In the hallway before you get to Alessa's room there's a chain link fence wall you can look through to see a creature like Valtiel sitting on top of a cage bridge lifting some girl up and down by her head. It's a girl in a white dress with black hair that looks an awful lot like it might just be another version of Alessa.

Could be a nurse or a Allesa but does it really matter? In a way it does I think? Where there any parts in sh2 that was showing a nurse being used for sexual pleasure? Is so where? I need to be prepared

I just now died without seeing valtiel carry me off....Interesting points, but Does he turn people into monsters? Or is he symbolic of Heather's mind?

No he is the gate keeper who at the gods wish switches realities on Heather by probaly a single thought...But how does he get the freakin message? via email or telepathy? and what was that monsture in the introdution before you play the game you know where hes crawing upside down chasing or killing some thing?