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Topic: Star Ocean 4 Confirmed for 360
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Jun 10, 08 at 01:25PM
re: Star Ocean 4 Confirmed for 360

quote Cruxis Mana
quote gonzab
Well, yeah, you're right. But still I'll be sad.
Tell me about it.

Not only do I not have a 360, but 360 games are region locked. Japanese RPG developers have a tendency not to release their games in Europe either - I'm already missing out on Tales of Vesperia.

The day SO4 is confirmed for release in Europe, I'll buy a 360.

If you play games in HD they become unlocked and you can play them in any reigon.



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Jun 10, 08 at 05:02PM
re: Star Ocean 4 Confirmed for 360

quote Cruxis Mana
*bleep* knows.

- Sony were too busy sitting on their fat arses, as per usual ?

- Microsoft flashed the money bag ?

- Tri-Aces business plan for the year is to abandon its existing fanbase ?

- Tri-Ace want to be cool like Spamco ?

* Shrugs *

One simple and obvious reason is that there are more 360 sold worldwide and therefore there is a bigger possibility that the game will sell well. But like you said, it's not like one of these titles are going to sell consoles. For an RPG to sell a console it has to be a series that has been around for some time and proved it's quality. I'm not seeing a random new RPG selling consoles, as good as it can be.



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Jun 11, 08 at 01:40AM
re: Star Ocean 4 Confirmed for 360

Every 360 RPG that has been released for the console has always made it outside of Japan.

In a recent press release, Square-Enix promised that all three of their new RPG titles will be released outside of Japan.

I believe the same will come of Tales of Vesperia. =]



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Jun 11, 08 at 08:15AM
re: Star Ocean 4 Confirmed for 360

quote slumpy monkey
If you play games in HD they become unlocked and you can play them in any reigon.
Srsly ?!

quote Matt Addison
I believe the same will come of Tales of Vesperia. =]
Lets hope so.

Square Enix are currently planning simultaneous worldwide releases for most of their games, so I have high hopes from them.

Namco have a bad record with their Tales games though.
* Hopes they go the way of Eternal Sonata *

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On a side note : Tales of Vesperia got a release date for those interested in it.




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Jun 11, 08 at 11:00AM
re: Star Ocean 4 Confirmed for 360

I'm quite disappointed with both Sony and SE. Sony for not getting in there first with the exclusivity, and SE for going to X360 (but I can see why they went that route). I can still be annoyed at them though

Just to let you guys know, I'll be moving this forum to the Xbox360 section, since there is no confirmation of a PS3 version, there is however confirmation of an XBOX360 version. A new PS3 forum will be created if it's ever created for the PS3....

quote gonzab
One simple and obvious reason is that there are more 360 sold worldwide and therefore there is a bigger possibility that the game will sell well. But like you said, it's not like one of these titles are going to sell consoles. For an RPG to sell a console it has to be a series that has been around for some time and proved it's quality. I'm not seeing a random new RPG selling consoles, as good as it can be.
Actually that is completely untrue. The PS3 has sold more units in Japan, and I mean WAY more units. In the EU the PS3 and X360 are neck n neck, and if anything the PS3 is probably further from what I remember of Kaz Hirai's presentation (available on the PSN). The US is the only market where they have a lead, and they're trying to get as many RPGs as they can for the Japanese market. They've THEN gone and signed an 'timed-exclusivity' contract so they can't announce that it will be for the PS3, because think about it.. your in Japan, your a big Star Ocean fan... it's coming for XBOX360... your told it will also come for PS3 in a few months time, are you going to buy a console that you'll hardly play just to play a game earlier? Chances are no. You'll simply wait for the PS3 version.

Now if it's announced as 'X360 Exclusive' you think... what if it doesn't come out.. now you have a reason to go and buy the XBOX360. At least that's the way I see them going.

Personally, I'm becoming more and more disappointed with Square Enix. They've completely *bleep*ed up Playstation players by moving MORE THAN ONE great title from the PS to it's competitors. DQ9 for one, Monster Hunter 2 for another, and now this.


quote slumpy monkey
If you play games in HD they become unlocked and you can play them in any reigon.
If you honestly believe that then I'm simply going to have to start ignoring your posts, in fear that it may contain this kind of stupidity... HD does NOT make a game region-less. If that was the case then Blu-ray movies WOULD BE REGION FREE



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Jun 11, 08 at 11:07AM
re: Star Ocean 4 Confirmed for 360

Proof

Movies are a totally different thing, becuase there usuallt released at WAY different times. So its to stop them losing cinema sales by people importing the movie from abroad. Games are different

Also isnt monster hunter developed by capcom not square enix?



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Jun 11, 08 at 11:11AM
re: Star Ocean 4 Confirmed for 360

quote Krunal
Actually that is completely untrue. The PS3 has sold more units in Japan, and I mean WAY more units. [b]In the EU the PS3 and X360 are neck n neck, and if anything the PS3 is probably further from what I remember of Kaz Hirai's presentation (available on the PSN).
I thought the X360 owned the PS3 completely in EU, if so then, I'm wrong and I agree with you.



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Jun 11, 08 at 11:14AM
re: Star Ocean 4 Confirmed for 360

Well in my experiance yes the 360 is doing slightly better than the ps3 in Europe.

Whereas in japan xbox is gettting whooped by wii and ps3, hence MS trying to get games that appeal to them.



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Jun 11, 08 at 11:16AM
re: Star Ocean 4 Confirmed for 360

Gonzab - U waz wrong ! dAMN wRONG !



Basically its :

- US = 360
- Europe + Asia = PS3



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Jun 11, 08 at 11:19AM
re: Star Ocean 4 Confirmed for 360

quote Cruxis Mana
[size=1]Gonzab - U waz wrong ! dAMN wRONG !



[sup]Basically its :

- US = 360, wii
- Europe =360,wii
Asia = PS3,wii
Thats what its more like.



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Krunal
Jun 11, 08 at 11:30AM
re: Star Ocean 4 Confirmed for 360

I don't see how switching to HD will do anything. All TV's these days can accomodate both PAL and NTSC, so it doesn't matter. The console will ALWAYS be able to take in both, since many developers have decided to make their games region free. Your proof is a post by a member, a member that seems quite new. I'm sorry if I don't take his words as fact. Show me an actual source, something a lot more reliable than a person on an internet forum.

If Steel Magnolia were to say it then I'd believe it, else, I wont.

Btw, I've had this forum moved to it's new resting ground. If we ever do get it on the PS3, I'll just create a new forum like I created this

quote Ren of Heavens
Region coding is not set by Microsoft on the 360 games, it is up to the publisher - The majority of games are not region locked, but some are. Play-Asia has a very good list, America's Army is allowed in America and Japan, but not Europe.
This post says it all. So how you can use that thread as proof is beyond me.

As for Sony doing better in EU than the XBOX360, I'll put the video I have at home onto NeoVids on friday/saturday and show you guys the graph, that clearly showed PS3 overtaking X360 in Europe even though it released a year and a half later.




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Jun 11, 08 at 11:32AM
re: Star Ocean 4 Confirmed for 360

For one, nobody really counts the Wii anymore since its pretty much dominating everywhere.




... And for the record though, the PS3 is outselling the 360 in Europe :

http://kotaku.com/387680/playstation-3-outsells-360-in-europe

Sony were just bragging about it at their Gamers Day a few weeks ago - and rightly so =P



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Krunal
Jun 11, 08 at 11:39AM
re: Star Ocean 4 Confirmed for 360

Thanks for that, saved me hours of uploading the video (which was like 200mb >_<).

Ah well, this is another title that I can add to my "No longer wanted/interested in" listed




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Jun 11, 08 at 11:44AM
re: Star Ocean 4 Confirmed for 360

People here in Sweden (and other EU countries) are tired of consoles breaking and having to send them to Germany and then waiting two weeks to get them back. Instead they buy a PS3 which has a really low fail percentage. This is only from my experience though.



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Krunal
Jun 11, 08 at 11:48AM
re: Star Ocean 4 Confirmed for 360

They also like to get the games, which unfortunately the EU does not do very well. We have missed out on some great games, and with the PS3 being region less for games, it means that we can import - that's not always an option on the XBOX360 - HD or not, as I said above, I don't believe that one bit, till I see some proof from a reliable source.



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