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quote NsOaklandR6

(This is to fix both Latency and Lag but this is my post on the lesser known Latency problem i posted at XBOX.COM)

The issue of latency is severe! People please STOP confusing LAG with LATENCY! Latency is the small constant millisecond(s) delay you have in Multi Player Online Games. Not the Choppy "Connection Interrupted" LAG! This is not about people being bad players, a lot of people are running around on XBL thinking they are bad a$$es because of how many kills/deaths they have but are not realizing or caring that the majority of there success is due to LATENCY to other players in the matches!

Example:

I'm walking/running around a map in COD4, turn a corner and I'm face to face with somebody from the other team. I react quick, shoot, and hit but for some reason not kill the guy and I get shot in and instant. I then Look at the Kill Cam Replay and whataya know, it shows that I never even lifted my gun up to shoot!

Or how about you are stationary, an enemy unaware that you are there comes into view down range; but you get shot in MILLISECONDS quicker then any human can react and surely quicker then the system can transfer the data. You know there is no way in the worked the guy spotted you, aimed, and got the kill in less then Half a second! Maybe in 1 lucky situation but BACK to BACK to BACK to Back, Game After GAME After GAME with different people.

I'll give you Another one, how about you are trying to take a headquarters when an opponent turns a corner right in front of you, you react buy stabbing him but NOTHING HAPPENS and you get Stabbed in less than half of a second. OR The guy turns the corner and before his body makes it around the corner all the way you are DEAD, Just like that in WAY less then a half or maybe even 1/4 of a second. Once again the Kill Cams paint a VERY Different Picture. Also Latency can make you think other players have extra health when real it's just that what you are seeing is not really happening in real time. So your shooting and hitting but in real time the guy isn't even in that position anymore but your system hasn't caught up yet to know it, so you just keep trying to kill the guy and the those first 50 rounds didn't even really hit him!

The worst thing about this is, to everybody else you look like you are just a horrible player. On there screens they just see you standing there doing nothing while getting killed. While on your screen you are Shooting, Kicking ,Screaming, Punching, Stabbing, setting off Jihad suicide bombs or whatever you can do to kill the guy in front of you. This problem just KILLS COD4 for a lot of people. I have to live with the fact that I will ALWAYS have HIGH death counts, HIGHER then kills ALWAYS. Most of the time I am forced to just rush around killing what I can knowing I will be killed after about my 3rd kill if I'm lucky. Air strikes here and there but it doesn't get too far from that. Some VERY few times I have very low latency for a certain amount of time and I Own it up! I am a very tactical player and usually get the job done but this just knocks all of that skill off the map.

Sign the Petition and Complain to Xbox to get this fixed if you are experiencing the same thing. This NOT a connection speed issue (Just had mine upgraded), as I understand it is a SERVER (Or the Lack Of) Issue. This may not be that bug of problem for other types of Games but for FPS and Sports games it cannot be tolerated!

An online game is only as fast as it's slowest connection, and if someone jumps into a match with a shitty connection, it's going to drag everyone down the drain.

It's a fact of online gaming. Get used to it. It's far cheaper to have one player be the host than to run dedicated servers.

The internet was never designed for somthing as powerful as an online game, in the future it will be run in some other way.

Learn to play the game better.

quote Neoman91661

Learn to play the game better.

quote SC_adept

The internet was never designed for somthing as powerful as an online game, in the future it will be run in some other way.

quote Sereph

An online game is only as fast as it's slowest connection, and if someone jumps into a match with a shitty connection, it's going to drag everyone down the drain.

It's a fact of online gaming. Get used to it. It's far cheaper to have one player be the host than to run dedicated servers.

I actually agree. With the buttload of money Infinity Ward & Microsoft are making, plus the fact its the number one game on Live, they should get some dedicated servers.

Thanks for the support ineedhelp. Also, for anyone else, please tell me if you are signing or not, and why.

quote X Jake X

quote Neoman91661

Learn to play the game better.

I had Live when I lived in Australia and I couldn't play a game. I would always get 1-2 bars. Thankfully, my family just recently moved to the U.S. and lag is not that much of a problem, but my friends back home can't play with me. That's why there should be an option to play hosted or server matches. It's not a question of skill, and your an idiot for believing it so. Go waste someone else's time.

quote SC_adept

The internet was never designed for somthing as powerful as an online game, in the future it will be run in some other way.

I agree, but latency and lag is an issue when overseas players host. With dedicated servers players may be able to enjoy the game more.

quote Sereph

An online game is only as fast as it's slowest connection, and if someone jumps into a match with a shitty connection, it's going to drag everyone down the drain.

It's a fact of online gaming. Get used to it. It's far cheaper to have one player be the host than to run dedicated servers.

I agree that it's cheaper, but Microsoft has to realize that they have to look at it as an investment. In the long run they may end up with more people on Live, and may end up making more money. And they must realize that the future of online gaming is not Xbox live. Look at Blizzard, they have dedicated servers, and they still are one of the leading industries in gaming today.

This message was edited by X Jake X on Mar 16 2008.

quote X Jake X

I had Live when I lived in Australia and I couldn't play a game. I would always get 1-2 bars. Thankfully, my family just recently moved to the U.S. and lag is not that much of a problem, but my friends back home can't play with me.

Microsoft doesn't need to get this petition. It's up to the individual companies producing the games to provide dedicated servers. Microsoft only provides the pipeline to get to the game.

Blizzard runs dedicated servers because they're making more money with WOW than they could ever hope to spend. A company like Infinity Ward couldn't hope to keep dedicated servers around for CoD4 since they're probably already hard at work on CoD6 and cannot spend tens of thousands of dollars to keep their current fanbase 100% lag free when their game is already pretty much already lag-free if you play with the right people and they're the number 1 Live game on the market (making the need to make dedicated servers superfluous).

The thing is w/ infinity ward, they will have to have servers for about 1 million plus online gamers as cod4 is multiplatform (pc, ps3,xbox 360) online, which is something they cannot do. And only 1000 signatures? that wont get them to change their mind, especially as internet signatures are so easily non genuine cuz people can pretend to be someone else.

It's actually over 3 million people on the 360 version alone, plus at least 1.5 million on the PS3, plus another million or so on the PC.

quote Sereph

It's actually over 3 million people on the 360 version alone, plus at least 1.5 million on the PS3, plus another million or so on the PC.

I agree, I stabbed a guy and it didn't show it and then he just stabbed me to get the kill. I hate that. I sign.

quote TurMoiL911

quote X Jake X

I had Live when I lived in Australia and I couldn't play a game. I would always get 1-2 bars. Thankfully, my family just recently moved to the U.S. and lag is not that much of a problem, but my friends back home can't play with me.

Make American friends then. We're a friendly people.