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 Akira_EXScribblenauts
(moderator) General Wii      total posts: 12545 neopoints: 4321 GameGrep pts: 16479 since: Sep 2001 |
 Sep 06, 08 at 8:52pm |
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Don't post them.
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 Alexunwashed heathen
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 Sep 06, 08 at 10:25pm |
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Wow, this isn't a vague or a worthless ultimatum at all.
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Gothic Girl
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Sep 07, 08 at 1:26am |
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Is there anything in particular that has spurred this warning? Or anything in particular we should be looking out for?
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The Jocker Neo-newbie
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 Sep 07, 08 at 4:16am |
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I don't see how criticising a kid who shot himself in the head is inappropriate.
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Avalith Avasythe: Dividing by Zero since 2008
(moderator) RPG/Adventure [DS] Wiki Staff Applications wiki staff chrono neowiki yugioh  total posts: 18800 GameGrep pts: 3520 since: Jul 2003 |
Sep 07, 08 at 7:35am |
quote The JockerThere's a fine line between criticism and inappropriateness at certain times and the line is often blurred or placed differently by various people. I don't think anyone who actually knew who we're talking about would appreciate coming onto an Internet site that has the article of the child's death to see people posting comments like "BOOM HEADSHOT" or "he'll respawn in 5 seconds." Regardless of your intentions, the comments were deemed as inappropriate and were dealt with accordingly. There's a time and a place for everything; articles about gaming-related deaths are not the place for edgy criticism or jokes. ------------------- | |
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Guugley Forget About It
Seeketh Maximus   since: Oct 2006 |
 Sep 07, 08 at 11:04am |
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It's inevitable. Unfortunately, a thread warning people not to do it or they'll get banned isn't how it works. There's always going to be people who will make comments like that and it's your job to ensure that they are dealt with.
Sorry for sounding like a dick, but the comments you quoted were actually quite funny Avalith. -------------------  | |
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Deathsythe Avasythe: Dividing by Zero since 2008
(moderator) Wiki Staff Applications wiki staff advancewars digimon fable guitarhero neowiki  total posts: 6756 neopoints: 1181 GameGrep pts: 7447 since: Jul 2002 |
Sep 07, 08 at 11:18am |
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If we had our thumbs down system back in place- the populous could remove inappropriate comments from view with a few clicks, and we wouldn't need a thread like this- or even a warning of any nature.
It's one thing to openly flame other members, or swear, or advertise, or any of the other things that people deserve to be banned for. But if some jerk decides not to show any respect for the deceased- than that is his problem, not ours. It should be up to the user-base to take care of nonsensical issues like this, not the moderating team. (which is why we need our thumbs down system back) Don't get me wrong- comments like the one that sparked this are distasteful and more-or-less out of line, but I think that banning a user for it is a bit harsh (I know it may come as a shock to many of you that I of all people, the guy who values rules and order above all else, thinks this way) - but it technically is not breaking any site rules (flaming would be the closest, but still a stretch) If the general population feels that it is inappropriate then they would thumb it out of view. Which is the exact action I would take in this kind of scenario. | |
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Guugley Forget About It
Seeketh Maximus since: Oct 2006 |
Sep 07, 08 at 11:30am |
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The thumbs system was too opinionated, whereby fanboys rated down a comment that just proved their own points wrong. The report feature isn't something which is used like the thumbs system. Maybe a mix of the two, meaning that you can thumb-down but you must give a reason?
Obviously, this would require much more users having the power to approve/disapprove of ratings. ------------------- | |
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King_X2 I rise, you fall.
Neoholic    since: Nov 2006 |
 Sep 07, 08 at 11:43am |
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I'm pretty sure the same rules apply on GameGrep as they do on Neo. Exactly what is the point to this thread?
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Deathsythe Avasythe: Dividing by Zero since 2008
(moderator) Wiki Staff Applications wiki staff advancewars digimon fable guitarhero neowiki total posts: 6756 neopoints: 1181 GameGrep pts: 7447 since: Jul 2002 |
Sep 07, 08 at 11:50am |
quote Guugley I do see what you are saying - and for the most part I agree with it. But too opinionated? If you have 10 people that feel inclined against your comment enough to thumb it down - then perhaps there is something wrong with your comment. And to add to that- what I've said in the past - it should be removed from view- but still viewable upon clicking a link to show comments that were below the viewing threshold. But that is an issue to discuss here, right now we are referring to "inappropriate" comments. | |
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Final Blade Permanently Plugged In
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Sep 07, 08 at 2:37pm |
quote MoonriseNO offense to any gamegrep mods here, but I agree with Guugly and Moonrise. What is this thread going to prove? Banning people for making a joke, even if it was out of place isn't the right course of action and sometimes can lead to abusing the powers. Besides the comments that avalith stated might have been out of place was in fact funny. KingX2 Gamegrep has some of the basic rules that Neo has, but has stricter rules. I remember making a joke comment on a article which involved a neomember and it got deleted by Enhance. And it didn't break any rules and it was purely joking about an article. Either way it doesn't have 100% same rules as neo. The people who make those comments will continue making those comments. I think if they kept doing it more the once I can see the real need of banning someone but not for their first one. Deathsythe the thumb system wouldn't do anything that the report feature hasn't already done, in fact the thumbs system would just make it stay in the open. If the comments were inappropriate as Avalith says, then the comments getting immediately taken out of view instead of waiting it to hit -10 thumbs is a better idea. Also Death, what if you have 10 people who are in a neo clique who doesn't like the member and rates down the comment, how would that deem the comment wrong? As Guugly said the thumbs were more opinionated, the old thumbs system, and were deemed not doing their original job thus getting rid of. Maybe when we figured out the new thumbs system and were all in a unanimous agreement with it, then the system could be implemented. Anyway I agree with Gothic Girl, what comments should we be seeing or looking out for, or in case should we not use? Cause so far the comments avalith stated wasn't nearly that bad to warrant a ban. [/feedback] ------------------- Welcome to Crisis Core forum Welcome to Bad Company 2 God of War 3 official forum community | |
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Guugley Forget About It
Seeketh Maximus since: Oct 2006 |
Sep 07, 08 at 2:52pm |
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Krunal moderator
GameGrep Bugs GameGrep Feedback & Suggestions NeoWiki Best Practices and Help NeoWiki Bug Archives NeoWiki Bugs NeoWiki Discussion, Suggestions and Feedback NeoWiki Requests and Planning RPG/Adventure [PS2] Wiki Staff Applications wiki staff finalfantasy neowiki stargate whiteknightchronicles  total posts: 24868 neopoints: 70099 GameGrep pts: 17339 since: Feb 2002 |
Sep 07, 08 at 3:58pm |
quote AlexSteadyDietOfNothing if you have nothing to add, do NOT post in the thread. And also please do not try to bypass with a guest account again, or you'll face more than just an account ban. quote The JockerDonnelly, there is a line that was crossed with the comments in that article, and it wasn't simple criticism of the child. quote DeathsytheThe report works in a better way as to alert the posts in question to the moderators sooner than a thumbing could. quote KingX2The point is that people seem to think that the rules don't apply, and many comments were deleted due to inappropriate comments. quote DeathsytheYou'd be surprised. I saw many comments with negative thumbs when they deserved neither to be rated down nor up.  -------------------  | |
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Moonrise
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 Sep 07, 08 at 4:10pm |
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You're clearly forgetting that being thumbed up and down is up to the people themselves, so while you may see no reason to thumb a comment up or down it may be a different case for other people.
I'll say this again: creating such a thread is really quite useless. People don't assume that the rules don't apply on Gamegrep, they just choose to ignore them. Making a forum thread on the topic isn't going to really make much of a difference when it comes down to it, if any difference is made at all. ------------------- | |
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Krunal moderator
GameGrep Bugs GameGrep Feedback & Suggestions NeoWiki Best Practices and Help NeoWiki Bug Archives NeoWiki Bugs NeoWiki Discussion, Suggestions and Feedback NeoWiki Requests and Planning RPG/Adventure [PS2] Wiki Staff Applications wiki staff finalfantasy neowiki stargate whiteknightchronicles total posts: 24868 neopoints: 70099 GameGrep pts: 17339 since: Feb 2002 |
Sep 07, 08 at 6:54pm |
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It gives them another warning and reminder about the forum rules, and since this thread is linked to on GameGrep, it allows people that go to GameGrep for GG and not for Neo to read this thread. And yes there are people like that
 You may think it's useless, but you are a long standing member having been on Neoseeker for ever 3 years if I remember correctly. This message whilst also to older members is primarily to the newer members that were banned for the comments that they made. The simple fact is that this thread is made, it's point is to be a straight up warning and reminder to members not to post inappropriate comments. There really is no need to go into further debate as to whether or not this thread has served it's purpose or not. If it hasn't changed anyones posting habits then other measures will be taking. However debating it in this thread does not really help anyone. ------------------- | |
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