Topic: Uncharted 2
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Luke the GoonerOoooooosahgone postal   total posts: 453 since: Feb 2007
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 Apr 07, 08 at 01:03PM
Uncharted 2
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I have just completed uncharted drakes fortune and i was wondering if number 2 is coming out
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ty_kingdom247cred to SS for banner. click it!ultra seeker   total posts: 1270 since: Mar 2008
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 Apr 08, 08 at 11:46PM
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well, gamer TV and gamemaster hinted there might be one, but you should turn this forum to say what you think is going 2 happen: e.g drake has located the treausre of volan, a treasure worth so much, the pirates spilled their own blood on it to try and curse it. when drake lands on the large of bemurda, where the trasure is held. he is amazed to find a highly secured base for francis, man also trying to find it. while search, he is also amazed to find his son. chazza, who he left with his ex-wife when they divorced. chazza can be played, as so can elroa and sully, along with drake. drake is now less shooting, and more combat, but still carrys a pistol. chazza is simlar to characters from DMC4, using a indestructible sword/dagger, which can deflect bullets. elora only now takes behind the wheel, in car chases or boat getaways. sully is now gunman, being able to hold over 5 different guns, inlcuding grenades.
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Enigma
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 Apr 09, 08 at 07:19AM
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I'm pretty sure a second Uncharted game has already been confirmed. I'm guessing the three of them will just go and look for another mythical treasure and continue the story like that. Some improvements I'd like to see is more variation in fights and enemy difficulty and more exploring and adventure than following a strict path to the next gunfight.
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simacirnot-such-a-newbie  total posts: 28 since: Apr 2008
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 Apr 09, 08 at 02:34PM
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id like to see a few more puzzles and exploring.
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ty_kingdom247cred to SS for banner. click it!ultra seeker   total posts: 1270 since: Mar 2008
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 Apr 10, 08 at 08:58AM
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o yeh can someone pl comment on my post, im tryin 2 get in a job in game desinging
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Koloth
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 Apr 10, 08 at 01:16PM
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quote ty_kingdom247
o yeh can someone pl comment on my post, im tryin 2 get in a job in game desinging Well first off your english is horrible. If it isn't your native language that is understandable but that is something you need to work on. Second off in a sequel you don't go about changing basic elements of gameplay a great deal. People that are playing Uncharted are looking for a feeling or realism in the game. So you don't suddenly introduce a character that defects bullets with a sword. Which we all know is realistically impossible. The characters have to seem realistic within the world you create. So if you want bullet deflecting swords you need to create a world in which such a thing is plausible. Uncharted is not such a world.
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ty_kingdom247cred to SS for banner. click it!ultra seeker   total posts: 1270 since: Mar 2008
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 Apr 11, 08 at 07:56AM
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sory i am greek. i kno you may not understand me, i try my hardst.
secondly i didnt men bullet-dflecting, more like he has body armor or somefink. someone help me out? 
secondly, why cant a game chang da way it plays?, i mean yeh i probably dun a bit to much in my first comment, but my idea is a mix betwen lara croft, god of war and MGS, which is actuly wot a spoksman for nauughtydog said.
finally, i fink it wood be great way to hav co-op, evrybody else is! there cood be 5 modes: 1.story/single 2.story/co-op 3.mission/both 4.treasure king(like capture the flag)/multiplayer 5.team death/multiplayer/online
thank you!
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Koloth
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 Apr 13, 08 at 04:14PM
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You would be better off creating a completely new game rather than completely altering the formula for a sequel. See that's why I hate Final Fantasy 12. I absolutely love Final Fantasy as a series. And 9 aside I enjoyed every one of them because of the story and the game-play mechanics. 9 I just didn't care for the story much. However Final Fantasy 12 completely alters the game-play going from a turn based style combat toward a more action RPG style combat. And frankly I didn't like it.
Not because I hate action RPGs in fact Kingdom Hearts and other similar games are quite enjoyable from time to time. However when I buy a FF game I expect turn based combat and other typical elements that I grew up on over the last 20 years. When they changed that they alienated a large chunk of their core fan base. Me included.
By the same token, when Uncharted 2 comes out I expect to be playing a similar style game. Which would be a cross between Tomb Raider and Indian Jones. No one at Naughty Dog mentioned MGS or GoW as far as I'm aware. And I don't want those elements in the game anyway. If I want those sorts of things I will play MGS or GoW.
Lastly as I said things have to make sense in the world in which you create. And that is doubly true of a sequel. People have already developed expectations about what makes sense in this world you created. Now if you introduce some fantastical element that doesn't fit with what they know they are simply going to denounce it as garbage. It ruins the story and game-play because it no longer seems real or believable. That is the key element of good story telling. No matter how fantastic the story you're telling is Things have to be believable with in the world you created.
See here is the thing, right off the bat I would find it more believable that Sully would be the one with the long lost son than Drake. Drake doesn't even seem old enough to have a grown up child. He's what may late 20s early 30s. His kid would be like 10. And I would hate if they aged him significantly by giving him a 20 something kid. I'm quite happy thinking of him as around my age. About 29 or 30.
The reason there was so little combat in Uncharted was because everyone was shooting at you all the time. You died before you could beat anyone up. I rather doubt that is an element that is going to change much. Unless they tone down the endless streams of pirate running out of every crack like cockroaches. Not something they are likely to do. And no self respecting Pirate would have a base with no guns. Makes combet kind of impossible unless you can sneak up on them all. Which would be kind of dumb. As I said in another thread he has no military training. I wouldn't expect him to be able to sneak around completely invisble like Solid Snake. And I would be a bit disappointed if he could. Again there is that elements of gritty reality that is ever so important to this game.
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ty_kingdom247cred to SS for banner. click it!ultra seeker   total posts: 1270 since: Mar 2008
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 Apr 13, 08 at 11:53PM
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im sorry. i didnt mean to go that far. but naughtydog did say they used the god of war ( i think) idea of being able to hide behind walls.
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Koloth
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 Apr 14, 08 at 01:58PM
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It is more likely the mentioned MGS than GoW since there is no hiding or sneaking in GoW. Kratos is a bit to forward with his attacks to bother sneaking around.
But that's fine to add a stealth element to the game really. After all you're alone on an island with a bunch of pirates out to kill you. It would hardly be prudent to go in with guns blazing. That was just yet another element of realism added to the game.
But that is just it. The things in Uncharted right now feel real and doable. You would need some incredible dexterity to hang on ladges like Drake but a side from some of the leaps of faith he takes it is all completely believable. And that's something you need to take into account when adding new elements to the game. Make it fit with what you already have. Introducing a new character is fine. But he has to be believable. Some sword weilding body armored bullet deflecting kid would be a bit out there in Uncharted. And really even Sully carrieing more than his Magnum would be a bit iffy.
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kazadDid you feel my true strengthgone postal   total posts: 466 since: Jan 2004
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 Apr 15, 08 at 11:18AM
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I think the general format of uncharted should stay the same, character's should have the same likeness they did in the first game. The shooting to platforming balance was excellent and the vehicle sections add nice change to the pace of the game. Furthermore the twist at the end was awesome as you had to change your entire gunplay strategy.
Ok here is where i would like to see some changes to uncharted, multiple paths e.g. 2 or 3 ways to reach a destination and when climbing more than one route. Better stealth mechanics, i don't want nate to be solid snake or something. In the first game after killing the first 1 or 2 guards stealth u always got spotted if that, oh give him a knife (its the ultimate survival tool in a jungle). Graphics where amazing in the first one, however I got fed up of killing the same looking pirate over and over again. Finally make the game 15-20 hours and more puzzles and hard ones at that.
I wouldn't mind if Co-op was missing in the sequel not to sure if its needed, but i suppose every game these days has some sort of multiplayer. If they were gonna do my preference would be for them to do it as a side mission seperate from the main singleplayer mode e.g. 10 chapters of co-op. Co-op could be done if every climbing wall had two way to climb it. However I'd prefer it if for example one player had to do platforming to like open a door, while the other player gave superpressing fire and then you could meet up and take them down together.
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ty_kingdom247cred to SS for banner. click it!ultra seeker   total posts: 1270 since: Mar 2008
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 Apr 16, 08 at 08:19AM
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ok i completetly disagree with my first post! yeh that sounds weird, but the one above does sound better!
(apart from the whole chazza bit, i think my storyline was pretty good!........right? )
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Koloth
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 Apr 16, 08 at 08:41PM
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You storyline is a decent start. You need to flesh it out a whole lot more though. Adding a new character isn't a bad thing though. Don't get me wrong there. The character just needs to make sense.
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ty_kingdom247cred to SS for banner. click it!ultra seeker   total posts: 1270 since: Mar 2008
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 Apr 17, 08 at 08:04AM
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ben_legendSheva back to Milantrue seeker (2K Remix)    total posts: 2288 since: Aug 2006
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 Aug 09, 08 at 02:22PM
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Ok here is my story.
After the conclusion of Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, Sully, Nate and Elena decide to spend a bit of time sight seeing around the world, with Elena planning to get a new camera and film some of the places they visit. First up is India, so Sully takes them there on the boat you see at the end of Uncharted 1 with the gold on. As they arrive Sully receives a call from one of the people he owes money to and explains what has happened and that now he has the money to pay off the debt. The man does not believe him yet now knows where Sully is and so sends some of his men in to deal with the problem. After being forced to abandon the boat (and gold) at the dock in India (they need to get away from where Sully said he was) they discover a whole underground world of tunnels and rooms, which obviously the man's hired guns trace them to and it ends up a underground (and at times at ground level) shootout and puzzle/platforming game much like the first one, before Nate discovers that the tunnels do have a purpose and there is some kind of treasure in the underworld. After that really they just kill all the bad guys and finish off the "debt-wanter" in the final chapter before collecting the treasure.
Obviously there are some flaws but I made it up as I went along and it sounds quite good. Thoughts?
EDIT: Just had a thought and at the end of Uncharted, Nate promises to give Elena a story. Sounds to me like Uncharted 2 will be about Elena doing another story for TV but it all goes wrong like last time.
This message was edited by ben_legend on Aug 09 2008.
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