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barcas debt is dire too, explains why they cant spend that much lol at bale linked with barca tho, not good enough for them
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Jmste
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bale simply isnt good enough for barca/madrid
although saying that i reckon he could perform for barca like alves does, certainly looks like they want some kind of wing back to play the 3 at the back formation they have been trying this season, abidal will most likely move to centre back too
better off at barca than madrid as he would suit them more but i think at the moment he isnt good enough for either teams
also i could see barca paying what we will ask for which would be around £40m, he will leave in the summer thats a fact
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Jmste
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also explains why they are deep in debt quoteSpanish football may be enjoying one of its most successful eras, powered by Barcelona and Real Madrid's charge through the Champions League, but the glittering success on the pitch hides a darker story.
As Real and Barca are through to the elite Champions League semi-finals, and three Spanish clubs are into the Europa League last four, a survey of the accounts of the country's top clubs reveals a tale of crippling debts and tax arrears.
Real Madrid lead Barcelona by four points at the top of La Liga, but the two global superstars also rival each other in the depth of their debts -- Real have accumulated 589 million euros ($772 million) to Barcelona's 578 million euros.
The archrivals' debts eclipse their revenues, which for 2010-2011 amounted to 479 million euros for Real Madrid and 450 million euros for Barcelona.
Europa League semi-finals Valencia and Atletico Madrid are also both awash with red ink, to the tune of 382 and 514 million euros respectively.
But the latest figure to hit the headlines in Spain is the 752 million euros that Spain's elite clubs owe to the tax man at a time when more than five million are unemployed and the government is asking citizens for more sacrifices.
The sports ministry announced a plan to ensure that football pays for its own debts. But for the moment it is unclear how they will do so.
Six of the 20 Liga clubs -- Rayo Vallecano, Racing Santander, Real Betis, Zaragoza, Granada and Mallorca -- are currently in bankruptcy proceedings, as are another six second-division teams.
"That figure alone shows that Spanish football is not well managed financially," said Barcelona University Professor of Economics Jose Maria Gay de Liebana, who specialises in football.
The analyst compared Spanish football's debts, which he estimated at 3.5 billion euros in total, to the frenzy of the country's property market bubble, which imploded in 2008.
"Football is a mirror of the general economy in Spain. For years we have been spending beyond our means, getting deeper and deeper into debt," he explained.
"For football it's the same: for years clubs have made colossal and inefficient investments. And as they did not have their own funds to finance these expenses, they went massively into debt."
A good example of the race to invest, no matter the cost, is Valencia's "New Mestalla" stadium.
In 2007, in the midst of the property boom, Valencia decided to buy itself a new 70,000-seat stadium -- even though it has only 39,000 members.
The 300-million-euro construction cost was supposed to be financed by the sale of the land from its old stadium for some 400 million euros.
Two years later, engulfed by the property market crisis, construction stopped when the club realized it could not find buyers for the old stadium property.
One other factor may have contributed to the accumulation of debts -- a lack of financial control by Spanish institutions.
Some blame a lax attitude by the Spanish football league, others the league's inability to impose tough sporting sanctions.
Until very recently the Spanish professional football league did not have the power to relegate a club in bankruptcy.
Some teams even used the bankruptcy law to their advantage, enjoying legal protection from their creditors while continuing to play football at the highest level.
"I think the new law that came into force in January 2012, which now authorizes the authorities to relegate a club in bankruptcy, will change things a lot," said sports lawyer Juan de Dios Crespo.
It is unclear, however, if the authorities would risk the public backlash of taking on a football club.
In the 1990s when the footballing authorities threatened to relegate Celta Vigo and Sevilla because of problems with their registration paperwork, they were forced to backpedal under huge pressure from fans.
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all i know is that uniteds debt is far much worse than barca/madrid
uniteds debt is down to the pre buy out though i think
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quote The Eclipse
I could've sworn a bunch of you were praising Bale as the best left-sided player in the world last year.
in the prem yes he is one of, world no i must say i remember a few of our fans saying he was one of the best left sided in the world tho
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Jmste
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that and how shite the rest of the team have been since january
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quote Mycon
Lionel Messi has 46 goals in 35 league games this season and 68 in all competitions. That's insane. A nice tidy 1.3 per game, you don't even get stats like that on your video game. 2 league games left too and one cup game, could break 70 goals in all competitions and 50 in the league. I remember the days where a 1 in 2 record made you a top striker. ibra disagrees  
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i hope we go out and get lopez, perfect keeper which we need
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get to see modric tomorrow maybe, hopefully anyway
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quote The Eclipse
If he played for Barca or Real I'd reckon he could score 40+ a season.
i reckon he will at real next season, i reckon they will ship out benz and maybe higuain modric in the squad for tonight, hopefully he comes on
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Jmste
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quote Subzer0
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If he played for Barca or Real I'd reckon he could score 40+ a season.
i reckon he will at real next season, i reckon they will ship out benz and maybe higuain Doubt they would sell those two. At least not by next year. But still I'd agree that Falcao is capable of scoring more than them if he was at a big club like Real or Barca. 1 of them will go i think, real will most likely monitor falcao this season, be a top class signing for them with ronaldo, ozil and di maria playing off him, imagine that 
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Jmste
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little luka didnt look out of place, fantastic player
gutted we lost him
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Jmste
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navas is destroying madrid atm
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surprised no one has snapped up navas, from what ive seen he looks a very good player, i know he has that home sickness but im sure hes overcome that now
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quote Mycon
I dunno, there's a difference between going away with Spain for the summer with other Spaniards and living and playing in England year round.
nah i meant like barca/madrid havent snapped him up, he would in perfect with barcas system, hes better than tello
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3 games i think left (including this one so 2 after its ended)
hes *bleep*ing ridiculous tho, glad he beat it
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