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May 22, 11 at 10:11pm ^re: Barcelona vs Manchester United
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May 22, 11 at 10:13pm ^re: Barcelona vs Manchester United
I want both teams to lose more than the teams in the FA cup final
Life's a bitch and then you die, that's why we get high
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May 22, 11 at 10:20pm ^re: Barcelona vs Manchester United
I hope Barcelona destroy Man Utd, but I can it being quite a close game. However, still think Barcelona will win with a goal or two from Messi.
The guy is too good!
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May 22, 11 at 10:22pm ^re: Barcelona vs Manchester United
Next door neighbours are going to this, got tickets straight away, shit tickets for £150 each. Expensive but if it was my team I would pay more that to go to the final.
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May 22, 11 at 10:28pm ^re: Barcelona vs Manchester United
quote Tom219Yeah got ours through the first ballot, but i think its 25,000 for each team, which out of 90 odd thousand is a joke.
Tickets going now for about £1000-£1500 each, if you've got a decent job then its worth it imo.
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May 22, 11 at 10:36pm ^re: Barcelona vs Manchester United
Considering as it's in our country then if I had a good payed job as you said Manchesterr I would defiantely pay that much to go it, considering how if it was abroad you would pay more than that for transport, ticket and hospitality.
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May 23, 11 at 2:03pm ^re: Barcelona vs Manchester United
I always support British teams in European competition, so I'm hoping for a Man Utd win. Can see them doing it this time too.
Not quite sure what was wrong in the 2009 Final, Man Utd just didn't seem up for it. Think they'll win this year.
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May 23, 11 at 2:08pm ^re: Barcelona vs Manchester United
Got a party on Saturday so I'll miss the game
Anyway, I hope Barca tear Man United a new one
The United line-up is said to be
Van der Saar,
Fabio, Vidic, Ferdinand, Evra
Valencia, Carrick, Fletcher, an un-named Premiership footballer
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May 23, 11 at 6:09pm ^re: Barcelona vs Manchester United
As I remember, the man who shall not be named got run ragged against Barcelona as he didn't have the legs to combat them.
But maybe thats cos he didn't have Dazzling Darren in central midfield with him.
I'm hoping for VDS, Fabio, Rio, Vidic, Evra, Fletcher, Carrick, Valencia, Park, Rooney, Chicharito.
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May 23, 11 at 6:16pm ^re: Barcelona vs Manchester United
Going pub to watch this, looking forward to it, hope United win, Barca are just... scummy.
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May 23, 11 at 8:11pm ^re: Barcelona vs Manchester United
Don't ever let anyone tell you you deserve that...
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May 23, 11 at 8:13pm ^re: Barcelona vs Manchester United
I've been looking for an opportunity to post this. It's a highly detailed breakdown of Barca's strengths and weaknesses. *bleep*ing long but well worth a read.
DarkSavante on BigSoccer.com:
Things that immediately come to mind for me when considering this match up are:
- Isolating the weak links.
- The weather conditions.
- Their short-burst acceleration through midfield and over short distances in general
- Giggs or Fletcher
- Apostatizing our structure.
I’ll go through them one by one.
Isolating and targeting the weak links
Barcelona are, as we all know, a team full of skilful and tricky players. A game can turn on its head in a given moment as one, two or even three of their players burst into life after targeting some poor schmuck to play around or run at directly. Messi, Iniesta and Pedro are the key threats as a collective first wave of attack. If any one of them breaches their mark and opens up key space, it’s highly probable that another one of the trio will be set through on goal, that, or they’ll make the run themselves.
The biggest problem in this area is that in almost all scenarios these three will break off, play to, or play through the left side of the opposing side. That is to say that the usual sequence of events starts with either Iniesta or Messi isolating and then beating a man (usually the DM or deepest holding midfielder), dragging him into no mans land, which in turn drags the LCB towards the ball thus opening up the field for the thru-ball on his side of the pitch to Alves or Pedro, who will either shoot or relay back to the now open man for the finish.
Pedro is a very clever and opportunistic little player. He waits and exploits key pockets of space in a way that both draws players to him and allows Messi those split-seconds needed to burst into action and work the best angle to get one-on-one with the LCB (Vidic in this instance).
Iniesta, as we’ve seen time and again, works the angle to play either the dinked lob over the top on the angle for Pedro, or Alves from their second wave, or he hits the precise through balls into Messi’s path which enables him to cut across the LCB for his trademark shot across the keeper with his left.
It just so happens that their biggest strength is our biggest weakness, and I’d expect them to work extremely hard for these opportunities to isolate Vidic and either get him sent off, concede the penalty or be beaten straight up one-on-one with Messi.
As others have alluded to, Vidic in this particular game, against this kind of opponent is a major, major concern. Allied to Evra’s lax defending, poor positional sense and lack of form/fatigue, there is a problem for us for the entirety of this game.
I thought the key preventative measure Real Madrid deployed to stop this isolation offered others insight into how to really disrupt an intrinsic element in Barcelona’s final 3rd play. Pepe’s pace, power and aggression in screening the LCB made Messi’s life extremely difficult. The whole point of an isolating approach is to target weak links. Pepe relished every single one-on-one with Messi and forced the little Argentine to recompense for that persistent pressure by getting rid of the ball at a much quicker pace then he would like. Of course, Iniesta not being 100% can easily eschew perception of the effectiveness a Pepe would have against a full-strength Barcelona, but what it does tell us is that Messi can be harangued and stifled in that false 9 role by the right type of player.
This whole subject is one I feel the manager must’ve had sleepless nights over as what we can do on the other side of the ball is quite dependant on what we can do to prevent this key facet in Barcelona’s play.
One of the reasons Chelsea are a thorn for Barcelona is because they protect the LCB (Terry) extremely well and shore up that left diagonal inlet extremely well. Barcelona don’t try much else if that route is closed. Sure, there are moments of brilliance that can come about off the left side if Villa comes to life, but without question isolating Carrick, Vidic or Evra and exploiting the gaps is where they’ll look to win this game.
The weather conditions.
Even in the summer, Wembley is a vast, heavy pitch. It is a massively fatiguing bog once sodden. If it so happens to rain on the day of the game, I’d expect us to modify our tactics accordingly. There is no way high-pressing in numbers will be seen by either team past 70 minutes or even the 60ish minute if we have one of England’s notoriously dodgy ‘summer’ days.
There’s no doubt this would favour our players and hinder Barcelona’s style. Less pressing means more chances for our deeper players to breathe a little. Assuming Carrick doesn’t bottle it again, there’s a chance the game could greatly favour us in the latter stages of the second half. This is assuming the game is still within reach and we haven’t played kiss chase for the previous 60.
I wouldn’t normally mention the weather, but the new Wembley is a special case – one the coaching staff would be fools to overlook. If, for example, our plan is to go all-out in midfield or down the flanks, we may have to temper that and cede space whilst playing deeper to conserve energy for a few key bursts during each half.
Short-burst acceleration through midfield and into the final third
Barcelona are the best side in the world by a mile in this aspect. The collective turn of pace they have in amongst their short-passing game absolutely flummoxes sides who do not have athletic trackers with the fastidious studiousness needed to stick to the instructions they’ve been given. Shadowing a run and then putting on the afterburners when the diminutive army scatter as they do is paramount to not only maintain shape of the side on both sides of the ball, it’s a key way to make them work outside of their own comfort zone and tire them out prematurely.
They are loathe to turn over possession, so they end up turning back on themselves and working the ball laterally or even backward until they’ve caught their breath.
This is another key area in which Chelsea really have a useful card to utilise against Barcelona and most certainly why the games between the two are tight whether it’s a win, lose or draw situation. Do we?
Our problem here comes with the issue that our most pacey and combative midfield is not a very productive or skilful one… ergo, on one side, they may do a job on Barcelona and prevent a number of these bursts, but on the other, once they win the ball back, they are more likely to give it straight back to the blaugrana if they try anything ambitious or creative.
Every time I run through the midfields we could play I can’t help but wonder which grouping can best offset their short-burst ability through midfield whilst also forcing them to work outside of their comfort zone on the other side of the ball and thus slow the frequency with which they can get up the field and support the forwards.
The central area of the pitch will be extremely congested until one side tires – there will very probably be ten to twelve players there or thereabouts with the counter-counter being a threat for both sides. Barcelona press high and want to burst from the traps from that position, but with two opposing flankers who will fancy their chances one-on-one, there’s a chance some of those short-burst runs may become middle distance ones as the midfielders are forced to track back if a high-ended counter leads to turnovers. Alternatively, for us to get in and support the flankers we’ll have to break rank and leave spaces that they can exploit
If their midfield is allowed to camp in our half of the pitch, their short passing and running game will exhaust us on such a heavy pitch.
I’ve mentioned his pawing and flailing being a concern of mine when he faces quick and skilful opponents for some time. It has been mentioned more than once in this thread as well as in a previous section above – I believe Vidic will be aggressively targeted in this game and as johno and cr mentioned, it really wouldn’t be a surprise if there is a mishap or a sending off for him if the pressure/skills being worked on him are too intense.
As others have mentioned previously, there’s simply no way we’ll play any other CB pairing but Rio and Vidic, and even if we did, each individual who could play in his stead carries baggage of his own that may impact on the team with the pressure on, regardless. You’d also have to question whether Vidic, club captain and mainstay in our league as well as cup campaign and our only ever-present CB, would want to stay at a club that would toss him freely for one of the biggest games of his club career.
We’ll simply have to trust him and hope he isn’t turned inside out with any frequency. Him getting beat by a piece of brilliance that is worthy of winning any game is fair enough, but it’s those little, needless, panicky things he does when the heat is really on that are a concern.
The screen on Vidic’s side will have a major role in this game in not only reducing Vidic’s rash impulses, but also in occupying the key space Barcelona will give their utmost to get into. It’d be great if ‘Vidicbauer’ is prevented from rearing his head via an able ball carrier and distributor demanding the ball from him.
Alternatively, and this should be noted amidst an apparent dismissal of Vidic for this game: They literally have no answer to his aerial threat on set pieces. Just as I fear he could easily concede a penalty and/or get sent off, I do believe he has potential match-winner status on the other end, should the delivery into their box on set pieces be good enough.
Giggs, Anderson or Fletcher
Off the bat I’ll say I can see no hope in hell of Scholes starting this one – he may not even see the bench!
Carrick, for his role and his form prior to the final, is a must. So who should partner him given the issues raised previously in this post?
I think Anderson can be removed from the equation straight away. He had a nightmare in Rome where he was deployed alongside Carrick with Giggs ahead of them, and unlike the other two, Anderson hasn’t really shown anything to suggest the same thing wouldn’t happen to him again once Barcelona’s short passing and moving game gets underway. Not only that, Anderson’s usage of the ball is neither here nor there at the best of times, which is risky in a game against a team expecting to have 60%-70% possession; you either need the perfunctory or the dynamic – one or the other who will deliver to a high degree in their duty, not an inbetweener who may or may not fail at both. Uberson is a random occurrence, one we cannot summon on a whim, this pretty much rules him out of a start outside of injury prior to the final.
The last time we played them in the CL, the absence of the then super dynamic Darren Fletcher in that particular United set up was absolutely ruinous. He was our energetic, indefatigable haranguer who thrived in big games and would do everything in his power to disrupt opposing systems and passing styles. This time around, things are different across the board.
Fletcher has changed somewhat as a player since then, and not only that, we’ve not seen the Fletcher whose name was a formality WRT starting xi’s in a long time. Even if Fletcher fields this time out, there’s no assurances he can play like he was two years ago. It should also be noted that Fletcher has not played competitive football for a long time. Barcelona, I think we can all agree, have the best midfield in the world – Fletcher in peak form and fitness would have a tough time against it, I’d think, so it’ll be a tremendous gamble from the manager to put the Fletcher of this term – allied to his battle with illness – into the mix from the off, I would think.
Another matter that should be noted about the midfield battle this time around is that Barcelona’s dynamic is different. Xavi and Iniesta were clearly the unheralded go-to men in the Barcelona side of two or even one year ago, but since then, things have changed. Messi has become a consummate central forward – a 10. in many aspects, one who has become the key transitional pivot in the ever-turning passing carousel. Xavi still passes and touches the ball the most in that midfield, but key transitions occur at Messi’s feet with inerrable frequency now – sending a runner like Fletcher out there to go and bother Xavi was a key issue to be addressed in ’09, doing that now would essentially miss the subtlety of their teams’ focal transition.
Messi was one amongst many top class players, but not the key one in ’09, now, however, it’d be fair to say he is both the figurative and identifiable star and crux on which others in the Barcelona side depend. Their goal spread has lessened and Villa has not really lived up to his billing thus far; Xavi has slowed down some since last season and Iniesta, although capable of breathtaking moments, tends to be erratic. Essentially, disrupting Messi’s game over anyone else in that side will cause the most unrest – I would expect us to be fully capable of shutting down the rest of the side and gobbling up the key transition attempts ala the two-legged ’08 semi-finals.
I’m writing this on the hop, so my thoughts are somewhat unstructured. It just dawned on me that I should include Giggs in the next section entitled
When Barcelona lose the ball, they work like fury to get it back in as short an interlude as possible. Depending on how much energy they expend during a particular swarm to win it back, there will be maybe half of that time spent playing the ball around the midfield or backline in order to catch their breath before going on the offensive again.
Most midfielders simply cannot cope with three or four players with low centres of gravity (which affords them more bites at the proverbial apple should they miss the first tackle) enveloping… or should I say, bum-rushing, them from all angles. The tactic works well in part because when Barcelona do lose the ball, it tends to be at times when the opposing midfield is in some disarray trying to contain their movement as well as block potential passing lanes at the same time. Under these conditions, it is very hard for your average CM to play himself out of trouble whilst retaining the ball and working an out-ball for a team-mate.
Currently in football today and outside of the Barcelona side, there are maybe a handful of players who are nifty, skilful and competent enough with their dribbling and short-burst acceleration to not only break those midfield shackles, but also turn a potentially disastrous turnover into a fantastic attacking opportunity for their own side. Jack Wilshere was the last player to truly display the facets needed to not only tire Barcelona out through the middle amidst their swarm, but also to cause them to back off and conserve energy for essential attempts rather than the automated rabid frenzy they’re accustomed to winning the ball back through.
In Ryan Giggs we have a ‘CM’ they will need two or thee men to stop regardless if he is on fire – this is outside of swarming, and just with regard to how good Giggs’ dribbling and carriage of the ball is.
The swarming tactic of Barcelona has been deployed with almost total impunity for a while now. Rightly so – it’s a nightmarish tactic for even above average midfielders to contend with… in Ryan Giggs we don’t really have an above average midfielder… we have an all-timer who is unplayable in his best form, but a complete wild card if he starts with the over-exuberant flicks and tricks.
Opta stats and the recent high octane clashes with Chelsea tell us that Giggs can cover as much distance as anyone in CM, and there is no question that he is athletically superior to any individual in Barcelona’s midfield – the game of cat and mouse would have unfavourable consequences for them should he get into his groove. The more men that swarm Giggs, the more spaces they leave for him to exploit and the more energy expended to chase in the wrong direction.
For me, Giggs, in that position ahead of Vidic, is an absolute must in this game. We need him to have one of his blockbuster performances, and if he does, you can be assured that Barca’s passing game and short-burst accelerations will be easier contained as the energy from our flanks and Rooney is then added to the mix. I feel that Giggs is our most crucial player in this game – I’d think for Barcelona, he is a 37-year-old oversight… as they possibly focus on our pace, or Rooney, or even Hernandez, or getting at Carrick/Vidic or Evra. AFAIC, Giggs should not see the field again before the final. We should wrap him in cotton wool and probably place him under house arrest, or something. He is the vital cog in this final as Fletcher would’ve been in ’09.
Apostatizing our structure…
I’ve seen a number of formations and personnel deployments I simply don’t get being put forward in a bid to contain or combat Barcelona. The big problem here, in my opinion, is that the moment you deploy players in unfamiliar roles or roles they haven’t been very good at during the season proper, you cannot be surprised if it falls like a house of cards the moment the pressure is on and every player resorts to type or struggles to stick to the briefing they were given.
There are inherent weaknesses in sizeable alterations that set us up for a fall, imo. The first area of extreme doubt in this regard is moving Rooney from the position he has thrived in since March.
From the left, Rooney gives what he can, but with his hesitancy to use his left foot or even work the flank these days, he is predictable and awkward there. Gone are the days of his flexible, eclectic game which was full of sudden, daring sparks of creativity no matter where he was deployed; when Wayne is out on the left flank, he will do one of two things: cut inside and play a poor infield cross with his right foot, or, a meek and rather ineffectual lay-off to a team-mate before generally meandering into an uncomfortable position before losing the ball or shunting an attempt.
As a #9 Rooney has regressed some this term. He is not attacking space with vim and vigour, he is not converting half chances, and his overall finishing, especially one-on-one, has been questionable to say the least. This shouldn’t be confused with Rooney being unable to play either role, rather, it hurts us to take three quarters of his current game and throw it out the window with poor deployment that has a knock-on effect for the rest of the team.
No, this season Wayne Rooney is a deep-lying forward whose game comes to life with options all around him and the freedom to pick and choose when and where to go wherever he feels like going. One-on-one, Barcelona do not have a player to best him between Puyol, Pique and Busquets and him coming from deep will worry them a lot more than him being on the shoulder of a forward second-guessing his shots and tangling his feet up at the worst moments in a play. Not only that, but Rooney’s long-range passing from deeper positions is essential with Scholes out of the team.
I hope we leave Hernandez and Rooney where they’ve been causing all that damage and let Barcelona contend with a certain and consistent threat.
Hernandez will definitely get chances to convert and if Giggs and Rooney do what they can in the central core behind him, there is a chance that for once Barcelona will have a compartmentalized division between midfield and defence where their midfield has to actually worry about midfield and their defence actually have to defend as a two-man CB pairing, which in turn gives Guardiola food for thought on whether their full-backs should only think about attack or get back and help their centre-backs worry about the livewire Hernandez constantly burning them for pace and crossing them up with his smart off the ball movement.
Hernandez’s passing game has been questioned, and rightly so: he will invariably flub a few simple lay-offs and plays, but he brings too much to the table in what he offers to not start, imo. Barcelona are a great side, but the way it has been mentioned, every turnover would lead to them scoring – that is not reality in the slightest and in a battle of wills revolving around which team will break first and alter their system, you have to say we have the best tools of all the teams Barcelona have faced allied to their complacency that we, in their mighty presence, should or will yield. Imo, we should go into this game knowing that Barcelona are the ones who face potential shellshock should what they try not work. They literally have no plan B as their A game is so good – Puyol, Pique and Busquets actually have no idea what it is like to be given a full on run-around because teams never get past the forwards and the midfield (plus the full-backs) having complete enough control for a full-on multiple player counter to ever occur.
If we get Barcelona on the back foot, I’m pretty sure they won’t have an answer to that as no side they face does that to them. There are ways and means to exhaust this Barcelona side and completely knock them out of their comfort zone – the right players, a little bit of luck and a tactical set-up that doesn’t give them all the time in the world to settle – put it this way, an aging Xavi and the dubious Busquets do not want to work non-stop chasing a fully rested Rooney, who, on such a draining pitch would have them dead on their feet in the second half if they have to frequently chase backwards.
If we bunker without the lead or allow Barcelona to settle into their game whilst playing deep ourselves, I fully expect it will be us who are dead on our feet mid-way through the second half, and with the systems that see us packing the midfield with 5 men whilst Rooney ploughs a lonely furrow up top, I think we play into their hands, whilst completely sacrificing what has actually made us a threat in the big games during the closing months of the season.
Barcelona’s full-backs are used in their second wave of attack. Often, they start in a lateral line with Busquets and quickly break deep into the opposing half to add both width and distraction whilst dragging opposing full-backs away from Pedro, Villa and, to a lesser extent, the drifting Iniesta and Messi. Barcelona are so used to imposing their will in this department that when they actually come up against wide-men who can do damage, they can look lost at sea. Di Maria and Walcott have both made considerable gains on Barcelona’s flanks for their teams in the CL this season.
If there’s one thing Manchester United have maintained this season, it is width. Lots and lots of width, to the point of it being detrimental to us earlier in the season. As our flankers returned from injury we started to change collectively in this department. Nani’s trickery carried us for at least two thirds of the campaign, but now, we’re working well with ridiculous amounts of industry and focus coming from Park and Valencia. There are no flankers in the game who are more effective whilst being so industrious (barring Sanchez), and we’d be absolute fools to not completely and utterly test Barcelona’s mettle here. On a pitch like Wembley’s I’d be amazed if Alves or Abidal can both contend with our flanks working hard both ways and still go beyond them to join the attack.
Valencia and Park are far fitter than Barcelona’s full-backs and if that is not respected, Nani entering the field in the second half to go at the more exhausted of the two could prove to be an ace card. We are one of few sides who can bring this specific challenge to proceedings for an entire game. If there is an obvious or more blatant route to victory than the flanks it would be on an aerial bombardment off each set play we get. Our flanks have the royal challenge of killing the ardour of an essential cog in Barcelona’s system. They are more than capable of producing an ‘upset’.
Pedro as an individual is a good but containable player. Pedro the opportunist who sneaks into dangerous areas off the back of Alves’ devastating runs is absolutely lethal. We work Alves hard; we remove 60% or more of Pedro’s game. For me, Park forcing Alves to cater for him is one of the key areas in this game. On a heavy pitch like Wembley, Alves will not be bombing forward to join every single attack and there is every possibility that Park can make him work hard in undesirable areas of the pitch.
Park is every bit as cunning as Pedro, but nowhere near as lethal when a chance comes his way – on that side of the pitch and between the two of them, you have the opportunists who are always an outside bet to get on the score-sheet, if Barcelona do not acknowledge this facet of Park’s game and only see him as a workhorse, there is every possibility that if he doesn’t score himself, he can bring others into a play that will. Alves vs Park is a major contest in this game.
I don’t believe we need outstanding trickery ala Di Maria or Nani to best Barcelona’s flanks. We need extremely high levels of stamina, attrition and repetition. As I mentioned some time ago:
...So is [Ashley] Cole, I'd wager.. coming up against someone who he knows will do the same thing over and over again means he will have to do the same things over and over again to stop him - in a battle of repetition/atrition I don't think any FB is going to outdo Valencia...
Barcelona do not have a LB in their ranks to best Valencia nor do they have one who can hem him in or play past him. The question then becomes: do we abandon dutifulness down the right flank and let our RB go beyond Villa and very probably past Iniesta to join these attacks?
I personally feel that this will be a game of two halves. If we manage to open the scoring in the first half, we’ll face an onslaught from Barcelona, which will invite Valencia to have the game of his life on the counter as the only outlet in the team. If we score first, I would expect us to acquiesce; to fall in line behind the ball and play with only 3 men on the counter, thus:
Fortunately for us, if they score first with this team fielded, we can afford to open up a bit whilst not abandoning our game-plan in the search for an equalizer. The work-rate offered by Rafael, Valencia, Evra, Park, Rooney and Hernandez has to be the best or very close to the best offered by any CL contending club. With the way the Wembley pitch plays, if we can get this Barcelona to chase for any concerted period of time, we’ll have a real chance to have a go at them in the second half, and again, a tired Barcelona cannot press in that high octane fashion we are used to seeing from them. I feel it’s in their best interests to try and do their damage early in the game. The first half through to about the 60th minute could very well be in their favour.
There’s a hell of a lot more to cover from this game from a tactical POV and many, many nuances I can’t cover in one post but may attempt to do at a later date.
There’s no doubt that we should go into this game as underdogs. After all, Barcelona play a style of football that offers little to no yield against anyone with the same old eleven doing as they wish for the most part. The odds for the game have to be at least 65-35 in their favour should they play as they are capable of. However, I do believe I’ve given a basic outline of how our 35% chance could calmly boost into the high 40’s, at least, should we play like we can whilst getting optimum performances and work-rate out of who we need to (especially Giggs and Park).
If it rains heavily on the day of the final, I’d put the game at 55-45 in their favour, if a little less. Either way, as long as the game is not out of reach by the mid-point of the second half, I believe our superior fitness and stronger bench will have something to say about proceedings.
Having run through as many personnel variations as I though realistic, I still found none over this:
To offer us the balance, creativity, pace, stamina and doggedness to take the game to Barcelona should they slip. I feel the best thing about this set-up is that it is eclectic by its very nature. It’s not necessarily an attacking line-up, it certainly isn’t defensive, and yet it has enough range to switch entirely from one to the other on a whim. I don’t think we have that scope with other line-ups we can put out there.
They have moved on from 2009, and so have we and I believe the thinking of what we need for this game should reflect that. Bunkering, without a Pepe to go one-on-one with Messi, is not an optimal tactic, imo. He plays too high up the pitch and is too close to our goal but for one error for that sort of camping to be entertained. The line in the sand we need to set our stall up from against this incarnation of Barcelona has changed.
As a tactical overlay, the blue areas of the pitch will be decisive for us in terms of their attacking threat:
If they are to win the game, odds have to be on that it’ll come from that side of the pitch, unless the wildcard Villa turns into the best striker in the world again. For us and our considerations as an attacking force, we need enormous games from those highlighted in red:
With the rest of the team doing their own jobs to as high a degree as possible. If we can make their midfield work backward and separate the defence as a contributor to the attack, we stand a real chance, imo.
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May 23, 11 at 8:22pm ^re: Barcelona vs Manchester United
It won't work.
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May 23, 11 at 8:26pm ^re: Barcelona vs Manchester United
I can imagine Fergie telling Rooney and Hernandez about apostatizing their structure.
Don't ever let anyone tell you you deserve that...
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May 23, 11 at 8:28pm ^re: Barcelona vs Manchester United
I can't, it's pretty much a given.
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