UEFA Champions League: Last 16 (1st Leg) - Page 25

quote Jess C

I'd be more pissed at Campbell and Fabianski for putting you in that position in the first place.

Not at all. Campbell can't see what's behind him, He therefor needs Fabianski to talk to him. Especially at the rate the ball was rolling at, someone could of easily nipped in and took it, it was rolling that slow. I saw it on several occasions when Sagna etc. were telling Fabianski to talk to them.

1st goal, Clichy should have not been skinned like that & second goal well cba discussing that.

Eboue to start next match!!??

~VP~

Forget Porto vs Arsenal a minute. Mr Ovrebo makes a twat of himself again


Even worse than the Swede in Portugal. At least none of Porto's goals were five yards offside...

No. He picked the ball up cos he is a knobhead. Accidental or not, no goalkeeper should ever pick the ball up there. Your only giving the referee a decision to make.

Then the soft twat hands the ball right back to them. Whether the ref tells him or not. Take the booking and buy your side some time. Cambell should of stood on the free kick until Arsenal was ready. Then none of it would ever of happened.

Cry, bitch and moan about the referee all you want, your players played a massive part in what happened. They should be looked at first and foremost.

quote DjedwardSmith

You do, as even the referee didn't realise it had been taken quickly

It looked to me like hulk said something, and thats why the ref dropped the ball straight away, and then tried to move out of his way. I need to see it again to be honest though.

quote g_lfc

No. He picked the ball up cos he is a knobhead. Accidental or not, no goalkeeper should ever pick the ball up there. Your only giving the referee a decision to make.

One which he should make correctly.

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Then the soft twat hands the ball right back to them. Whether the ref tells him or not. Take the booking and buy your side some time. Cambell should of stood on the free kick until Arsenal was ready. Then none of it would ever of happened.

Yes, completely undermine the respect policy that we're meant to believe in and ignore the referee. I'm furious that he did as he was told And Campbell had nothing he could do, due to how quickly the referee handed them the ball and then how he stood in his way. If he wasn't in the way Campbell would have got a leg to the free kick.

Another point I've just thought of. Campbell wasn't ten yards; Why wasn't it taken again?

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Cry, bitch and moan about the referee all you want, your players played a massive part in what happened. They should be looked at first and foremost.

Whislt I agree they're not without blame, to say they're first at fault is *bleep*ing ludicrous. The referee is at fault for several wrong decisions in the space of thirty seconds.

I dont't want to see it again

Can you imagine Seaman or Lehmann handing the ball back in the way Fabianski did? He should've waited for his team to get back so they could defend the free kick, really retarded decision to just give the ref the ball back like that I can't imagine any other top club's 'keeper doing that in such a situation. With a goalkeeper experience is so important tbh, surely after Seaman and Lehmann you'd think Wenger would see the importance of getting a good 'keeper in...

Completely legitimate goal too, the ref marks the spot and the Porto players take it all within the laws of the game, maybe you could argue Campbell's pass wasn't deliberate but not for me he had all the time in the world to decide what to do it's not as if its been smashed at him and deflected off him into Fabianski's arms, then Fabianski stupidly picks the ball up.. seriously retarded decision.

Oh and I'd be playing Silvestre over Clichy at the moment, even in his last season at United he played some top games there against top players but Wenger has never given him a chance there, I thought it was common knowlegde he's a shite CB and a very handy player at LB.

quote g_lfc

An ex ref was on SSN (Cant remember his name, bald fella), and said there was nothing wrong with what the ref done. Im inclined to believe him over you if you dont mind.

Link. That is my argument against everything you've just said..

You're believing his opinion over mine, not his facts over mine, and that's why you're wrong.

Or do you honestly believe it was an intentional back pass?

That article is so flawed it's unreal; ten yards? Referee blocking the path? Demanding the ball back instantly from Fabianski to allow Porto to take the free kick, but then not allowing Arsenal the same authority to defend it.

Genuine question, as I've seen it happen before. If the ball is played back by a defender and the goalkeeper takes a touch, then picks it up, is that a back pass? If it isn't, then that's yet another thing wrong, although I do think that's marginal and not the biggest flaw with that awful decision.

quote Johnny Boi

Can you imagine Seaman or Lehmann handing the ball back in the way Fabianski did? He should've waited for his team to get back so they could defend the free kick, really retarded decision to just give the ref the ball back like that I can't imagine any other top club's 'keeper doing that in such a situation. With a goalkeeper experience is so important tbh, surely after Seaman and Lehmann you'd think Wenger would see the importance of getting a good 'keeper in...

There should be no need to criticise Fabianski for doing as the referee told him though, that's the point. Obviously, and cynically, I'd have much preferred if he hadn't, but it's easily excusable. Although I do agree, we need a better goalkeeper.

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Completely legitimate goal too, the ref marks the spot and the Porto players take it all within the laws of the game, maybe you could argue Campbell's pass wasn't deliberate but not for me he had all the time in the world to decide what to do it's not as if its been smashed at him and deflected off him into Fabianski's arms, then Fabianski stupidly picks the ball up.. seriously retarded decision.

It hit his foot as he was running, therefore it wasn't intentional, therefore it shouldn't have been given. The touch was so slight I didn't even notice it at first, so I can understand why Fabianski picked it up.

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Oh and I'd be playing Silvestre over Clichy at the moment, even in his last season at United he played some top games there against top players but Wenger has never given him a chance there, I thought it was common knowlegde he's a shite CB and a very handy player at LB.

No thanks. Silvestre is a mug, awful at centre back and would be even worse at left back. Average back up at best, he's not good enough to be starting for us. That's not to hide Clichy's poor form though, I just feel he's far better than what Silvestre can offer us.

DJ, your coma/Denilson comment actually made me crack up. You're right though, I think he's a dreadful player, just walks around the pitch doing absolutely nothing.

Nasri needs to be booted out of the team too. Showed so much promise that time he scored two against United, but IMO him and Rosicky are too similar to be in the same starting X1, and I'm much more impressed by Rosicky, he was certainly one of the better players for us last night. Clichy, once again was tosh, no positional sense whatsoever.

I disagree with Rob regarding Sagna though, he's been really reliable since we've had him at the club, should always be one of the first names on the team sheet IMO. I do like Eboue though, I think it'd have been nice to see him in the front trio last night, he's always positive when he gets the ball and looks to get forward, I would have had him instead of Nasri for sure.

Still hopeful we'll progress at the Emirates like I said before.