This thread is for people who are currently playing WoW, and anyone else considering playing WAR. This is just my personal comparison between the two games (being a fan of both). Keep in mind, however, that WAR is still in beta, while WoW has been out for many years now; so the fact that the two are being compared is just a testament to WoW's longevity and all around awesomeness.

Warhammer Online is known to many as the only real threat to World of Warcraft's title of 'Best MMO to Date'. While a number of WoW players (read: fanboys) will automatically dismiss all reasoning behind this, I personally believe that WAR has a good chance at stealing away the title. Here are a few things that have drawn me to the game:


PvP

For anyone who's played an online game with good PvP-play, the PvP in WoW in comparison is decent at the very best. And I personally am not at all fond of the choices they made for WoW's PvP. People often try to justify WoW's PvP imbalances and letdowns with "WoW's a PvE game, whataya expect?".

WAR on the other hand is a different story. The PvP in WAR is referred to as RvR (realm vs. realm); because it takes the complex RvR system found in Mythic’s other MMO, Dark Age of Camelot. While it borrows the same system found in DAoC, it is still very different in many ways, and is said to include many improvements.

I could go on and on about how glorious WAR’s RvR is going to be, but it would be a better explanation to watch the following videos:

" And I heal, and I heal... And I heal!"

Haha, that part was amazing and I know that all too well.

Really good post August, I saw most of the videos before but still some good info for people who haven't been keeping up with information. Think I'll have to show people this post when I try to get them to play this game instead of WoW! muahaha!

I really REALLY love that they made it so if you end up grinding on mobs you'll most likely get credit for it from someone without having a quest. I think the quest concepts are very interesting and I'm looking forward to playing through them.

I just wish they would hurry up and give us more information on the elves! I still can't help but want to be a 'pretty race' even though I'll most likely end up playing a Goblin Shaman. Any idea on what the career options will be for the elves or are they keeping everything a secret? >.<

this is coming from level 70 hunter who has 4 epics all blues has experienced lots of pvp and raid once or twice a week. i have been playing WoW for 7 months and first thing that warhammer is realesed i am switching i think it looks way better for pvp and theres way more classes. i dunno it may not be as great as i espect but it looks alot better to me. and i really like how u can lvl on pvp

To be honest this game just seems better then WoW, but then WoW is a game that is was developed in 2003... this is 2007 so I think it's about time a game came along that could de-throne WoW as king of the MMORPG... also watching some of the developer movies I don't think PvE is an after thought at all, it looks like they have worked hard to keep things entaining in both PvE and PvP, unlike many MMORPGs that just slap PvP on afterward.

Hopefully this game won't disappoint, after all the only other supposed WoW killer was LOTRO, what to be honest was just an over-hype that was easy to see past considering the class system in that game and what not, WAR actually has good considerations and is done by a team that knows what they are doing and where to make the correct balances between gameplay and story... so overall I am looking forward to this game...

Also the public quests seem like fun in away, means you don't have everyone competing all the time over monsters, instead everyone works together. Well unless you go to the enemy land to try and interfer with quests like it sounds like you might be able to do in some cases, but even so then that just adds more of a challange and will stop the game being boring .

I edited a bit of the Tome of Knowledge stuff into the PvE section. The ToK is too significant a feature to be in the "other" section of the post.

I played LOTRO, and lemme tell you I wasn't impressed with the game at all. Perhaps in the era of Dark Age of Camelot and Everquest LOTRO would of been a significant player within the industry, but not in this era of MMOs. I think people are just grasping onto anything that isn't pure crap, because they're sick of WoW.

Aye WAR is looking really good, although the dark horse on the horizon now ironically will be WOW 2 when it rears its head, who dares think what races, classes and the graphical overhaul they might add to that one.

However WaR will be a great game I will happily play it alongside WOW until the 40K MMO is done, and of course if tis any good. If that happens to be the case (40K MMO being awesome I mean) both my wife and myself will probably be lost to the echos of the 40K universe for some time.

I thought about that, too. WoW2 will probably be a rather significant player in the 'MMO war' to come. However, I believe that is a long, long ways off, and by the time it comes out the majority of the "I'm sick of WoW"-folk will have moved to either Age of Conan or Warhammer Online.

WoW2? I haven't heard any information of such a game... if there is indeed one in the works, I mean FFXIV I heard was rumored to be an MMORPG too... but meh.. when it coems to MMORPGs in the future, you never know =/... I'll probably stick to warhammer for the moment tho.

There is no news on WoW2. Hasn't even been officially announced. We're just speculating.

Aye current murmuring is that they begun work on it a year ago, not sure if this just speculation, or snippets from chatting with Blizzard folks at Games shows can confirm it. Its just I see it raised again and again, so it seems likely to be plausable for a rumour, In my opinion anyways.

It doesn't actually seem so Plausable for me, as They have been working on two expansions in that time, it doesn't really make that much sence actually... you wouldn't work on two expansions whilst planning out a totally new MMORPG... unless you were looking at a really really long development time for the MMORPG... so I don't think it really is that Plausable... yet.

I think WAR will not be able to beat WoW because WoW is more fantasy and has billions of dollars in store for more content.
Blizzard also has made a lot, and I mean a LOT of lore for warcraft over the past 13 years, so its really wont be a surprise to me if WoW goes on to be the most popular MMO for up to at least 2010.

Personally I think WoW is the Star Trek of today's youth. I wouldn't be surprised if WoW references in sitcoms and cartoons will be present 30-40 years from now.

Well if you measure a game's greatness by how much money it's made, then yes, WoW will forever be the best MMO the industry has to offer.

But really money isn't what it's about. WoW will continue on essentially forever, because MMOs tend to never die (just look at Ultima Online). So even if a better MMO comes along WoW will continue on regardless. This doesn't mean that WoW will forever be the best MMO there ever was, just the biggest and most profitable one.

By the way, Warhammer has accumulated quite a bit of lore as well, being that it has been around for 24 years.

Yes, but you have to admit that the warcraft lore is absoutely amazing. I mean, its not just simple stories, they have details done to the core of every little aspect of every little aspect of every branch of the tree that is WC lore.
For instance, the blacktooth grin clan initiates its members by knocking out one of their teeth. How awesome is that?
They have chronology and they make sure everything makes sense. Like they didnt change the map of outland in WoW even though that map was made like 12 years ago with WC2:Beyond the Dark Portal. Thats true commitment to their lore, and is highly admirable.

WoW will not live forever, but there will be movies, comic books (already are) and possibly even TV shows based on it. and through that WoW will live on forever, or at least 60 or so years.

This message was edited by Northern49 on Aug 30 2007.

I at one point was a fan of the Warcraft lore, too. And up until the Burning Crusade they did a pretty good job meshing it all together. But as I have been reading up on Warhammer's lore, I can personally vouch for it being just as immense as Warcraft's, and even more-so.

In the end though, it really is just a personal preference. WAR's real selling point will be its game play.

60 or so years you say? I wouldn't doubt an MMO lasting that long, haha. But in all reality I figure they will make a WoW2 long before that. Probably a WoW3 and 4 in that time, too.