chopin appears as playbale character as seen in the latest battle trailer in the offical site, which means he'll problely ...say get crush by a big monster, then revived by little polka with a phoenix down, and if you look into the trailer you can see chopin wacking the pig looking mob with his magic wand and doing a victory pose, awful, just awful!

i thought they had taken care with this game to preserving chopin's character and honoring him, which i intiallly thought was true after seeing the first trailer. until then i always thought this game would pay respect to chopin on one side and at the same time staying true to his character, legacy and not add anything that could otherwise comprimise chopin's reowned status as a musician. but now the whole game just seems awkard and out of place with the inclusion of chopin as a playable character, and here's why:

-why is chopin fighting?

chopin didn't had an optimistic view on the world, his sister's death, the arrorance of his wife,and the discrimations of the poors by the nobles had always lingers in his thoughts, some of his music is sorrowful poetry and a direct expression of how he felt about the current state of the world, but amidst all of this many have known chopin as a peacist, and he would never resort to violence just to ease his anger and frustration, but as you can see in the new trailer, as the pig monster is rushing towards them, chopin was readying himself for a fight; as he swings his baton/wand he appeared to have an angst of sorts, when the batlle was won he did a little ff7 style vitorious post and tipped his hat in a cool cowboy fashion. really, i'm not impress by this.


-the developers call this respect?


immediatly when i saw this, the first thing that came to my mind was, how are people going to react to this? espically,those in warsaw, france or poland, i'm sure the majority of them aren't gamers and problely won't notice this game, but does that mean his character, his work and his legacy can be harrass as such? what's next, mozart holding a buster sword chopping down chocobos?

a musician is a musician, and nothing is more dishonorable than giving them a gaint sword (in chopin's case, a gaint hammer in this game) and force them into warriors and fighting like savages for the selfish pleasures of gamers! the developers stated that they'll stay true to chopin's character and this game is *quote* a trubite to the great Frédéric chopin. clearly, atleast to me, they've gone too far and have ruin his good name; if this is respect, then god help us all.


-chopin can't die?

obviously the game centers on copin's imminent death as his dying hours approaches, placing him in battle not only takes away his mortality but also strips away of the shadow of death which always lingers around his character, seeing that polka is a healer, and the mass amount of hps chopin lost is enough to rule out the fact that a battle cannot be lost without a gameover screen, if so,does this mean it is possible for chopin to die in his own dreams???!!! if this is the case then that'll also mean a character can fall in battle, and if that's also the case, with polka as a healer it can be naturally assume that fallen characters can be revive? now doesn't this simply ruins all the suspense that's been building up since the beginning of the game, and again, strips chopin of his mortality?


would you get killed in your own dreams and be revived by someone in your dream? besides, when someone tries to inflict pain on you in your dream you'llusually wake up, and seeing chopin getting maul by that pig mob and losing alot of hps in the trailer is certainly not only an insult to chopin but also takes away the suspense of a dying chopin and severely reduced the theme of death,and sorrowful tone that's been building up since the beginning.


-what is *trusty bell*?

trusty bell is a trem, i believe refers to the bell towers of paris. i believe that in the game, chopin knows he's time is near, and problely knows he won't make it past midnight, i'm guessing he went to bed with that knowledge, and fell asleep with the thought of the bell ringing which signals his dying hours and the inevitable death, the trusty bell, is actually the bell in real life which always rings at midnight, and will always ring at midnight, hence it is reliable, which spawns the term "trusty", and thebell, which is a reliable countdown to his death.

i based my theory on the fact everything in this game, this dream world of which he created is a direct reincarnation of his thoughts and feelings of the real world; the close resemblance of polka and his late sister, the bread stealing children, the imperials which is the equivalent of the nobles, and the theme of *those with a heart of gold are the ones to suffer*, and if this is all correct, then the term *trusty bell* would be the bell towers of paris, or the old clock tower at his home, which is constantly shown in the trailer, and the trusty bell, again, is really just the paris bell towers.

chopin went into his dream with his sub-conscious telling him to listen for the sound of the bell, which problely acts as a count down watch to his death, and according to history, chopin drew his last breath in the late hours of october 17, which is another strong hint.

1. It's a game. =D
2. It's a game. =D
3. It's a GAME. =D Lighten up!

@The hat tipping - Hey, we all need a victory pose <_<.

Anyway, I'm a piano player myself, And I don't really have issues with this game - it's beautiful, it's RPG, and you have to expect a certain amount(a lot) of fighting. Giving him a hammer? So what? @_@. I won't like my Chopin pieces less just because he's been Anime-tized and given a second wind.

I realize that I'm playing a game, not an autobiography of Chopin. It makes all the difference.

well the rpg centers around music, no duh a powerful character would be named after a famous musician...

and the english title is Eternal Sonata, not Trusty Bell, so the reference could be comepletely different for the (majorly) European and US release.

3: that face on the right side of ur sig is creepy, the eyes are too far apart... just pointin it out

btw, Betthoven would be the only imortal character, so

@ Xeros - So what if the English name is Eternal Sonata ... it still doesn't change the fact that Trusty Bell may refer to the bell towers ...

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quote Sonsaru @ gamefaqs

"Trusty" refers to the jewel inside all people that shines if you are a good person, as explained on the first page of the instructions and during the game. It is also a stat that affects healing.

Chopin didn't "go to bed" thinking anything. He has been sick for a long time already, he wasn't just knocking about the house and then thought "I feel a bit under the weather... I think I'm going to die tonight."

There's no insult to Chopin here at all. So what if this makes him the only classical composer to be have ever said "Level Up?" The sections that talk about his life are pretty interesting and there is respect for his music / music in general throughout the game. It's meant as a homage, nothing else, and it's just been done in a Japanese way.

To be honest Chopin's involvement and the idea it might all be a dream is the most interesting part of the otherwise pretty cliched story. Oh no, the king is evil. Oooh evil medince too. Oh no we've been thrown in jail!

xero:

the game was MEANT to be called trusty bell, and it is refered to as trusty bell in jp, noone really cares what it's called in NA or EU release, and hey, it can be called "kirby's banana dream", now wouldn't that completely rule out EVERTHING that has been estiblish so far?


NA and EU releases can called this game whatever they want, seeing that this is a jp game, ppl usually stick with jp names and facts, if polka is named little red riding hood, and algeretto named Leonardo DiCaprio in the us version, then i think we'll all stick to their jp names now would we?

oh and the girl in my sig is from *air* anime, the artists draws like that so....yeah....

hoa:

thank you for reading my post

my theory is that trusty has a different meaning in each corrasponding world, i believe the trusty in the "dream" world is a reincarnation of something in his real world, i thought it might be the bell towers, seeing how a clock is seen in the trailer.

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i based my theory on the fact everything in this game, this dream world of which he created is a direct reincarnation of his thoughts and feelings of the real world; the close resemblance of polka and his late sister, the bread stealing children, the imperials which is the equivalent of the nobles, and the theme of *those with a heart of gold are the ones to suffer*, and if this is all correct, then the term *trusty bell* would be the bell towers of paris, or the old clock tower at his home, which is constantly shown in the trailer, and the trusty bell, again, is really just the paris bell towers.

I don't believe that Chopin has been dishonoured. By the game and the world of his contriving, Chopin is able to relive a life where anything is possible. He doesn't have the restrictions placed on himm by general society. He can use magic, due to his illness, and he has the opportunity to have the adventure that he never would have been able to accomplish in real life.

I would say that it's nice that he even has been characterized into a game. After all, there aren't many real life people that have been mentioned in a game. =]

_{I believe this game is honoring Chopin. It's an RPG musical dedicated to him.}

agreed,agreed

<sub>The title of my post has been clarified.

AS I said before, I think Chopin will be honoured with such a great RPG.</sub>

I'd say anything based off of someone whether it be a game,book,movie or whatever is a good thing. As long as its positive of course ^^;

I totally agree, this is a perfect example actually.

Some people think it's good towards Chopin other's not so much.

I don't think it dishonors him at all...

He is still a reserved, good mannered individual in the game, he isn't all of a sudden, an insane/kiddy character...

The art is good, the music is good, the story (thus far) is good enough (nice concept)...Where, in this, is he being dishonored? Play the damned game, before you accuse anybody of dishonoring his memory -_-

ahhh. i love it when people take games too seriously. it is just a game. its not like the developers sat down at their "Anti-Chopin" meetings and said, "Mu ha ha! Let us make an RPG that disgraces Chopin! Mu ha ha!" The only bad thing about the game is that you have to keep switching characters in and out of your party to keep yourself frosty in case the next boss forces you to use a weak character.

Besides, there are tributes to his musical pieces throughout.

Not only that, but the chapters are named after some of his musical scores, and within them the game cuts to a brief historical backstory on the life of Chopin.

I don't think there is any disrespect at all!

to reply to the initial post. i once had a dream and died and was revived. i also went to purgatory and heaven.