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Magistermagi1 One of the 10 aspects of death. #7 Time threadnought total posts: 629 since: Nov 2012	Jan 24, 13 at 1:12pm ^ In memory of characters we never used.
	Log in to remove this sponsored message This is to remember the worst characters in the game that you never used, never found useful, just plain suck, and other things Fiona Meg Astrid Lucia Marcia Lyre Lethe Kyza Tanith Sigrun Nealuchi Illyana pretty much the entire dawn brigade except for Edward, Michaiah, Zhark, Tauroneo, Jill, Sothe, Volug, Rafiel, and Nailah. if you can think of anymore or see a fault in this list, say so. Edit: Jan 25, 13 12:02pm ------------------- Light,Darkness,Nothingness. Only nothingness is truelly eternal. Rage,Destruction,Sacrifice,Time,Nothingness, Madness,Greed,Solitude,and Despair. The ten aspects of death. All eternal and all consuming.
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The Blazing Shadow s-e-e-k-e-r total posts: 1837 since: Jun 2007	Jan 24, 13 at 2:31pm ^ re: In memory of characters we never used.
	quote Magistermagi1 This is to remember the worst characters in the game that you never used, never found useful, just plain suck, and other things Fiona Meg Astrid Lucia Marcia Lyre Lethe Kyza Aran Tanith Sigrun Nealuchi Illyana pretty much the entire dawn brigade except for Zhark, Tauroneo, Jill, Sothe, Volug, Rafiel, and Nailah. if you can think of anymore or see a fault in this list, say so. Just put in some names you were missing and did some other minor corrections. (spelling capitalization, other such irrelevant things.) smash fanatic will love this thread. Anyways, Marcia, Aaron and Nealuchi don't belong on this list Sure, Marcia isn't really anything special, but she isn't all that bad of a choice, either. She can be pretty average/slightly above average Aran bad? Are you joking? If you put effort into him, he'll usually end up capping Str, Skl and Def. He is far from an endgame contender, but that is only because of his competition. Try bringing him into endgame and he'll kick plenty of ass. Nealuchi is also great... for part 2. You'll definitely need him to survive the prologue. He can also kick plenty of ass in 2-2 and 2-E. Other than that? Yeah... he's useless after that... he's vital for survival in part 2, though. Tauroneo should not be considered for use as a good character. He is an exp sponge. I suppose he could be about average if you need someone, but other than that, you should avoid him. Also, why is Nolan not a mentioned exception? Michaiah and Edward also have their uses. Tormod? A lot of people don't like him, but I stand by my claim that he has potential as the Est archetype of this game. Maurim is also a notable mention. He only trails a little when you get him back and is easy to catch up to par with a little effort and effort that is well worth it.
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Magistermagi1 One of the 10 aspects of death. #7 Time threadnought total posts: 629 since: Nov 2012	Jan 25, 13 at 11:34am ^ re: In memory of characters we never used.
	quote The Blazing Shadow quote Magistermagi1 This is to remember the worst characters in the game that you never used, never found useful, just plain suck, and other things Fiona Meg Astrid Lucia Marcia Lyre Lethe Kyza Aran Tanith Sigrun Nealuchi Illyana pretty much the entire dawn brigade except for Zhark, Tauroneo, Jill, Sothe, Volug, Rafiel, and Nailah. if you can think of anymore or see a fault in this list, say so. Just put in some names you were missing and did some other minor corrections. (spelling capitalization, other such irrelevant things.) smash fanatic will love this thread. Anyways, Marcia, Aaron and Nealuchi don't belong on this list Sure, Marcia isn't really anything special, but she isn't all that bad of a choice, either. She can be pretty average/slightly above average Aran bad? Are you joking? If you put effort into him, he'll usually end up capping Str, Skl and Def. He is far from an endgame contender, but that is only because of his competition. Try bringing him into endgame and he'll kick plenty of ass. Nealuchi is also great... for part 2. You'll definitely need him to survive the prologue. He can also kick plenty of ass in 2-2 and 2-E. Other than that? Yeah... he's useless after that... he's vital for survival in part 2, though. Tauroneo should not be considered for use as a good character. He is an exp sponge. I suppose he could be about average if you need someone, but other than that, you should avoid him. Also, why is Nolan not a mentioned exception? Michaiah and Edward also have their uses. Tormod? A lot of people don't like him, but I stand by my claim that he has potential as the Est archetype of this game. Maurim is also a notable mention. He only trails a little when you get him back and is easy to catch up to par with a little effort and effort that is well worth it. Well you see, I ment characters who are good all the way through or suck all the way through the game. nealuchi is only good in part 2. After that, he totally sucks. Aran, That was a mistake. I never put much effort into him, but I decided to do a new game and work with him and yes he is good. Marcia is just blow away like a leaf compared to the other flying mounted units (Jill,Haar,Sigrun,Tanith,The Queen of Crimia). Nolan is not a exception because compared to boyd, or really anyone else who swings a axe, nolan sucks the big one. His hit is always low, his strength is pitiful for a warrior class, he's slow. He's just no good. I didn't mean Michaiah in the dawn brigade members who suck. Sense you have to use her pretty much all the way through the game, she has to be useful. But her auto prompts do suck though. Especially if she was at a low lvl when they happened. Edward is useful, that is true, but when compared to Zihark,Mia, and Stefan, he is nothing but a dull sword. His crit is nothing compared to them, nore his strength, speed, defense,or luck. ------------------- Light,Darkness,Nothingness. Only nothingness is truelly eternal. Rage,Destruction,Sacrifice,Time,Nothingness, Madness,Greed,Solitude,and Despair. The ten aspects of death. All eternal and all consuming.
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The Blazing Shadow s-e-e-k-e-r total posts: 1837 since: Jun 2007	Jan 25, 13 at 11:49am ^ re: In memory of characters we never used.
	http://serenesforest.net/fe10/average/nolan.html That isn't shit. That is, in fact, quite far from shit. That is the destroyer of worlds, right there. With Michaiah, I never have any trouble getting her up to level by the time she needs to promote http://serenesforest.net/fe10/average/edward.html That is also quite far from shit. He can also be quite epic compared to the other swordmasters. His only problem is that he requires a hell of a lot more effort. If you put forth that effort, though, he is well worth it. I'd prefer the other swordmasters who tend to turn out slightly worst, but Edward is an awesome choice for someone to potentially experiment with.
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Magistermagi1 One of the 10 aspects of death. #7 Time threadnought total posts: 629 since: Nov 2012	Jan 25, 13 at 11:56am ^ re: In memory of characters we never used.
	I will add Edward and Michaiah to the exception list, but no matter what happens, Nolan will NEVER make it on it. I raised him and boyd to lvl 20 reavers at the same time and compared them. Boyd won. Nolan just couldn't compare. I also compared him to lvl 20 Dracolord Harr. Haar the god won by a long shot. They all had the same weapons, and no stats enhancing items were used on any of them and Nolan still lost. ------------------- Light,Darkness,Nothingness. Only nothingness is truelly eternal. Rage,Destruction,Sacrifice,Time,Nothingness, Madness,Greed,Solitude,and Despair. The ten aspects of death. All eternal and all consuming.
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The Blazing Shadow s-e-e-k-e-r total posts: 1837 since: Jun 2007	Jan 25, 13 at 12:13pm ^ re: In memory of characters we never used.
	This happened once? Because I've raised Nolan twice and both times he capped every single stat. You might want to give him another go.
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Magistermagi1 One of the 10 aspects of death. #7 Time threadnought total posts: 629 since: Nov 2012	Jan 25, 13 at 12:19pm ^ re: In memory of characters we never used.
	....5 times. Boyd capped 4 times and Haar did 3 times. Nolan did every time, but his were not as high as the others. But thats just me....... ------------------- Light,Darkness,Nothingness. Only nothingness is truelly eternal. Rage,Destruction,Sacrifice,Time,Nothingness, Madness,Greed,Solitude,and Despair. The ten aspects of death. All eternal and all consuming.
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The Blazing Shadow s-e-e-k-e-r total posts: 1837 since: Jun 2007	Jan 25, 13 at 12:29pm ^ re: In memory of characters we never used.
	Peculiar... I never would have expected someone to have that much bad personal experience with Nolan, but if that is how he works for you, then I guess not much else can be said...
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Magistermagi1 One of the 10 aspects of death. #7 Time threadnought total posts: 629 since: Nov 2012	Jan 25, 13 at 1:04pm ^ re: In memory of characters we never used.
	True. Characters work differently for everyone. Except fiona and meg. They suck for everyone. am I right? ------------------- Light,Darkness,Nothingness. Only nothingness is truelly eternal. Rage,Destruction,Sacrifice,Time,Nothingness, Madness,Greed,Solitude,and Despair. The ten aspects of death. All eternal and all consuming.
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Gotenks (gamegrep) (category mod) (neocrs) General Mario Brothers Nintendo 3DS Games wiki leader mario total posts: 61010 since: Aug 2002	Jan 25, 13 at 1:46pm ^ re: In memory of characters we never used.
	I've never had much of a problem with Nolan. I think out of my three playthroughs of the game, I have taken him to the endgame twice and he held his own. I took Boyd for the other one but he just didn't live up to Nolan for me. ------------------- When You Go Astray, I'll Be There To Punch You Back!
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SMDeathwind *witty title goes here* forum fever total posts: 378 since: Dec 2010	Jan 25, 13 at 4:51pm ^ re: In memory of characters we never used.
	>not using Nolan >"oh but he's not as good as haar" So wait, we're not using a solid Reaver who also happens to be around in the Dawn Brigade and doesn't suck there, and comes with Earth affinity, just because he's not quite as good as Haar? You do know that Earth/Earth support is 45 Avoid, right? Without massively terrible luck (which admittedly it sounds like you had), Nolan is easily worth using if only by value of helping out the Dawn Brigade. Beastfoe and Crossbows make him a godsend in 3-13, and not being horrifically mauled by the Tigers in 3-6 while he has Beastfoe and Tarvos to hit them back. quote Magistermagi1 True. Characters work differently for everyone. Except fiona and meg. They suck for everyone. am I right? I've had good Megs and I've seen a Fiona cap all stats. If you value endgame potential over absolutely everything else, Meg and Fiona aren't actually that bad. (Also, summoning smash fanatic.)
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smash fanatic threadnought total posts: 636 since: Jul 2007	Jan 28, 13 at 5:17am ^ re: In memory of characters we never used.
	Determining who the worst (or even the best) characters in a game heavily depends on what you are looking for in units as well as what your playstyle is. For example, some people will say that Sanaki is usable because she has free deployment, and thus she can contribute with minor jobs (mostly potshotting) because she's either doing that or sitting in a corner of the map anyway. I say that I don't care about her free deployment because the fact that she can ONLY potshot (because with her awful durability and zero speed and terrible mobility she is a hindrance if I try to make her do more than that) means she's a terrible character. Some people rate characters based on their party having only the top units ever, with anyone not in this god party relegated to doing minor jobs or potshots. I rate the majority of characters based on a long-term view, in that no matter how good or bad the unit is, it will be seeing plenty of action. There are multiple reasons why I hold this view, and explaining them would make the post go off-topic, but it also alters my tier list of units from those "some people". In any case, my current bottom 10 units are... bottom 1. Fiona 2. Astrid 3. Lyre 4. Pelleas 5. Meg 6. Lethe 7. Kyza 8. Renning 9. Oliver 10. Ilyana With Sanaki being a very strong contender depending on how you view her forced deployment maps. It's not really up-to-date since I barely argue tiers anymore, but the more I use Ilyana, the worse I find her to be; she is literally competing with Lyre for "worst unit in the GMs", especially since any levels you feed her are levels that the DB no longer have. -------------------
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Magistermagi1 One of the 10 aspects of death. #7 Time threadnought total posts: 629 since: Nov 2012	Jan 28, 13 at 11:37am ^ re: In memory of characters we never used.
	In that ^ case smash fanatic, my top ten best characters are 1:Haar 2:Shinon 3:Tibarn 4:Ike 5:Soren 6:Caineghis 7:Stefan 8:Kurthnaga 9:Nailah 10:The raven king (can't ever spell his name) My top ten worst characters are 1:Meg 2:Fiona 3:Lyre 4:Kyza 5:Lucia 6:Calill 7:Illyana 8:Laura 9:Astrid 10:Sasaki Now for a good question. Which Heron is the best and which is the worst. The best I would say is Rafiel. He's at a good level and can affect all of the units around him in just his regular form. The drawback is he can't fly and lacks canto. The worst I would say is Leanna. Yes she can fly, but even in her heron state, she only affects two units. She's also at the lowest lvl of them all and is hard to build. what you all think? ------------------- Light,Darkness,Nothingness. Only nothingness is truelly eternal. Rage,Destruction,Sacrifice,Time,Nothingness, Madness,Greed,Solitude,and Despair. The ten aspects of death. All eternal and all consuming.
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SMDeathwind *witty title goes here* forum fever total posts: 378 since: Dec 2010	Jan 29, 13 at 2:51pm ^ re: In memory of characters we never used.
	I always found Reyson to be the best Heron, there's enough Olivi Grass and Laguz Stones to keep him in Heron form almost constantly. Leanne is definitely the worst of the three, though- her Canto is limited, she doesn't quite have the same amount of Laguz items Reyson can get hold of to at least maintain the Heron movement range and it's been a while but I'm pretty sure she's the frailest.
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Magistermagi1 One of the 10 aspects of death. #7 Time threadnought total posts: 629 since: Nov 2012	Jan 30, 13 at 12:36pm ^ re: In memory of characters we never used.
	I still stand by rafial, especially sense last time i checked, he had the highest stats of them all. But reysons' just as good in his heron form. Combined with a laguz gem...Yeah he wins. I change mine to Reyson. But we all agree Leanne sucks? ------------------- Light,Darkness,Nothingness. Only nothingness is truelly eternal. Rage,Destruction,Sacrifice,Time,Nothingness, Madness,Greed,Solitude,and Despair. The ten aspects of death. All eternal and all consuming.
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