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Arsenal_Fan_1991 PSN: badger-man forum junky total posts: 80 since: Apr 2008	May 17, 08 at 2:32pm re: Zero Punctuation: Yahtzee reviews Grand Theft Auto IV
	quote Donnelly quote Arsenal_Fan_1991 i've watched every single review he's done and every single one is brilliant, he must get a lot of hate mail though. He had a video dedicated to the hate mail he received when he reviewed Brawl. Anyway, he was spot on as usual. yeah saw that. every wednesday i check his site for the next review.
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Master of Chaos. Neo: Essential since: Nov 2001	May 17, 08 at 3:09pm re: Zero Punctuation: Yahtzee reviews Grand Theft Auto IV
	As mentioned, the PS3 jab was pretty unnecessary. Avoid the PS3 version because of the sixaxis that no one uses? Wha? Other than that, lol's were had as usual. I've been wondering when he would do a GTA review. ------------------- "Introduce a little anarchy, you upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos. I am an agent of chaos."
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jackbergin Still Seekin' total posts: 3995 since: Jan 2007	May 17, 08 at 3:34pm re: Zero Punctuation: Yahtzee reviews Grand Theft Auto IV
	Like other people, I was confused at the dig on the PS3 controller. I think those triggers were finally used to full effect and thought that they fantastic to use. -------------------
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Steel Magnolia Where is your saviour now? (supermod) total posts: 10693 since: Dec 2002	May 17, 08 at 3:39pm re: Zero Punctuation: Yahtzee reviews Grand Theft Auto IV
	If you mean the L2 & R2 triggers, then I suggest he is correct. They are, for some unknown reason, convex rather than concave. This makes them very un-friendly and much more difficult to use than the 360's. ------------------- It's twelve o'clock, and it's a wonderful day. I know you hate me, but I'll ask anyway. Won't you come with me, to a place in a little town. The only way to get there's to go straight down.
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ChiroVette (babysitter) (moderator) Action and Arcade [XBOX360] GTA Social Forum Grand Theft Auto IV [PS3] Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas [PS2] Writer's Lounge total posts: 26464 since: Mar 2002	May 17, 08 at 4:23pm re: Zero Punctuation: Yahtzee reviews Grand Theft Auto IV
	quote Master As mentioned, the PS3 jab was pretty unnecessary. Avoid the PS3 version because of the sixaxis that no one uses? Wha? I thought I rembered him talking about the freezing issue with the PS3 as well, which would make his jube of the console more understandable in that context. ------------------- It's official. I have truly become a babysitter on Neo. Redemption, I want my $7.00 an hour!
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Master of Chaos. Neo: Essential since: Nov 2001	May 17, 08 at 6:26pm re: Zero Punctuation: Yahtzee reviews Grand Theft Auto IV
	I watched it a few times, but don't recall the freezing thing. Just a random 'oh, by the way, avoid the ps3 because of the controller.' I've yet to encounter any freezing problems anyways. ------------------- "Introduce a little anarchy, you upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos. I am an agent of chaos."
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ChiroVette (babysitter) (moderator) Action and Arcade [XBOX360] GTA Social Forum Grand Theft Auto IV [PS3] Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas [PS2] Writer's Lounge total posts: 26464 since: Mar 2002	May 17, 08 at 6:33pm re: Zero Punctuation: Yahtzee reviews Grand Theft Auto IV
	Well, if that's true, then entertaining parody or not that was a little irresponsible of him. People who have a voice that disseminates to widespread audiences have a responsibility to be more impartial than that. ------------------- It's official. I have truly become a babysitter on Neo. Redemption, I want my $7.00 an hour!
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ShadowJ moderator The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind G.O.T.Y. [Xbox] The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind [Xbox] The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion [PC] The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion [XBOX360] total posts: 18141 neopoints: 206 since: Jan 2003	May 17, 08 at 7:57pm re: Zero Punctuation: Yahtzee reviews Grand Theft Auto IV
	quote Steel Magnolia If you mean the L2 & R2 triggers, then I suggest he is correct. They are, for some unknown reason, convex rather than concave. This makes them very un-friendly and much more difficult to use than the 360's. Aye that's why I hate games like Turning Point that don't offer alternatives to the controller config and force you to use the triggers as your shooting triggers, I much prefer L1 and R1 for weaponry than L2 and R2 As to his jab towards Sixaxis, I'm going to guess it is was a general jab towards all games on the PS3 and not just GTA IV. GTA IV utilises Sixaxis quite good to be honest, in fact I prefer it over manual handling especially on copters and bikes, however some games such as Lair don't use it to the full advantage and other games just don't use it where they should have used it. Ironman being the example in this case. In fact Ironman using Sixaxis in flight mode would have rocked, instead you are confined to the analog sticks, which is fine but not when they bugger the controls up to the point that you are spinning out of control in-game and throwing your controller at a wall, ground or screen. -------------------
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Sereph Neoholic since: Sep 2006	May 17, 08 at 8:02pm re: Zero Punctuation: Yahtzee reviews Grand Theft Auto IV
	quote ChiroVette Well, if that's true, then entertaining parody or not that was a little irresponsible of him. People who have a voice that disseminates to widespread audiences have a responsibility to be more impartial than that. quote ChiroVette His reviews are meant to be satirical, NOT to be taken completely seriously. Yes, there is some truth in the review, but mostly I thought it was insanely funny. Lolwut? Yahtzee is an entertainer, so if he said "don't buy the PS3 version because it will lead to massive baby sacrificing at Sony HQ" he shouldn't feel bad whatsoever. At worst you can just call him an idiot. However, I do agree with him. I can barely keep my fingers on the convex triggers after extended play and can only imagine what a nightmare it must be trying to find the perfect pressure for free-aiming must be.
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Arjy has managed to avoid drowning! true seeker (2K Remix) total posts: 2265 since: Nov 2002	May 17, 08 at 9:43pm re: Zero Punctuation: Yahtzee reviews Grand Theft Auto IV
	woohoo i can post here again erm i just watched this, thought it was spot on and blooody hilarious. except for, as a lot of people seem to be saying, the dig on the shoulder buttons, i really like them in gta4! -------------------
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ChiroVette (babysitter) (moderator) Action and Arcade [XBOX360] GTA Social Forum Grand Theft Auto IV [PS3] Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas [PS2] Writer's Lounge total posts: 26464 since: Mar 2002	May 17, 08 at 10:14pm re: Zero Punctuation: Yahtzee reviews Grand Theft Auto IV
	quote Sereph Lolwut? Yahtzee is an entertainer, so if he said "don't buy the PS3 version because it will lead to massive baby sacrificing at Sony HQ" he shouldn't feel bad whatsoever. At worst you can just call him an idiot. The two quotes don't contradict each other. You just took them out of context. When I first watched the review I didn't notice the digs against the PS3, or more accurately, I assumed he was talking about the freezing issues. In retrospect, after reading Game Masta's post, I realized that he was using his admitted;y satirical style in a cool way for the most part, but that he should be a little more responsible when throwing his hat into the console war. I would have said the same thing, by the way, had he attacked the 360. My point is that even though the review was satire, he is seen as a journalist, in his own strange and maniacally crazy way. And I would think he would not favor one platform over the other in his review simply because of a feature that is completely OPTIONAL on the PS3. The 360 has no motion sensing, and the PS3 does. Further, ROckstar DOES NOT force you to use it. So by turning it off, even if you hate the Sixaxis, then just don't use it. However, to use his voice, which is heard by millions, to subtly attack one of the platforms is, yes, irresponsible, even if it is done in a joking fashion. I would have not mentioned it if he had held the freezing problem against the PS3, OR if the PS3 version of GTA IV forced you into using the rather wonky Sixaxis. But as a default setting, the Sixaxis is OFF. So how could it possibly be an issue that he uses as a platform to recommend the 360 version? Humorous or not, that is irresponsible journalism. ------------------- It's official. I have truly become a babysitter on Neo. Redemption, I want my $7.00 an hour!
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Tec 9 forum raider since: Oct 2003	May 18, 08 at 2:20am re: Zero Punctuation: Yahtzee reviews Grand Theft Auto IV
	I had an opportunity to play GTA IV on the PS3 at a friend's house a few days ago, and my only concern was the L2 and R2 buttons, I didn't find them user friendly at all. More painful. Also, I don't know if it's just me, but in classic control config, there's two handbrake buttons?
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Toonami "I am Lightning...The Rain Transformed" Neoholic total posts: 10589 since: Aug 2004	May 18, 08 at 3:02am re: Zero Punctuation: Yahtzee reviews Grand Theft Auto IV
	I can't even remember what L2 and R2 does on classic controls anymore. therefore he should just switch to classic controls. ------------------- SPIES SAPPIN' MAH SENTRY Atletico SL
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Grenade King To Fallen Stars forum raider total posts: 2661 since: Jun 2003	May 18, 08 at 4:20am re: Zero Punctuation: Yahtzee reviews Grand Theft Auto IV
	quote Sereph However, I do agree with him. I can barely keep my fingers on the convex triggers after extended play and can only imagine what a nightmare it must be trying to find the perfect pressure for free-aiming must be. That's more of a personal problem than a problem with the controller. ------------------- Is it better to out-monster the monster or to be quietly devoured?
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che_don_john no-stoppin-me-now total posts: 236 since: Oct 2002	May 18, 08 at 4:57am re: Zero Punctuation: Yahtzee reviews Grand Theft Auto IV
	quote "What isn't brown is grey and what isn't grey is too dark to make out." If I had a pound for evey time a friend has complained to me about how dark the game visuals are.... Is it really beyond people's initiative to go to the game options and bump up the brightness and contrast?! It's the first bloody thing I did! And henceforth, no brown/grey/black confusion. Agree with the point about 'realism' as a gaming concept though, which has been discussed a lot in these forums. It seems to be the gaming equivalent of alchemy, developers trying to create a reality out of something that isn't real. But realism doesn't necessary make for better, and I think much of GTA's appeal over the years has been its cartoon-like guise. Btw, does anyone have a link to the full list of his reviews? They sound good
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