Ness VS Lucas: PK Rockin' & PK Love - Page 4

If you're a great Falcon player, you're still going to lose 90% of the time to another great player using any other character.

I like how people are just being ignorant. Characters are not and never have been built equally or even remotely balanced in any fighting game, and Smash Bros. doesn't come anywhere close.

quote Yoshi Freak

I mained him in melee and could beat my friend who was a Fox (And good with fox) without getting hit, as Ness.

Sounds like a bad Fox, to me.

Opinions, of course. Lucas is better than Ness on paper. All I'm gonna say.

Lucas

quote WiseLugia

Except opinions don't change facts. Is that so hard to understand?

Lol, all of smash is cheap.
A character can't be good without cheapness.

Take falcon for example, (sorry seph)

He ain't cheap, so he is bad

Although I prefer to use Lucas...


PK Love < PK Rockin'

quote AntonHerrera343

Ness, for many reasons too.

PKT1-PKT2 is a very useful combo offline.

Ness has advanced techs as well.

His yo-yos are better than the up smash and down smash of Lucas for reasons. (Lucas' >A should be banned ]

Ness is more useful to use than Ness because of air combos. ALL his Airs are better than all of Lucas'.

need I say more?

Freeze actually hits though, that's what I'm negotiating.

Lucas' Usmash is...very slow. BUT! it has a humongous hitting radius, hitting on all sides of him and far above him.

Lucas' Fsmash comes out faster than that of Ness and hits about as hard with about the same KOing power.

Dsmash also hits right around lucas and constantly out front, dealing nice damage and Koing power is great whats not to like about a far superior version of Ness' Yo-yo?

Pk flash has nothing on Pk Freeze. Freeze moves faster, charges faster and freezes upon hitting, immobilizing them.

Lucas and Ness both have PSI magnet, but Lucas' is better. Lucas' can hurt the opponent and somewhat spike in the air, whereas Ness' only pushes them away at a VERY close distance...

PK fire...Lucas' goes straight in the air, keeps them away from you, and is good for edgeguarding. Ness...can burn repeatedly, making Lucas' better.

I would like to see your logic behind all of Ness' air being better than Lucas'. Lucas has two spikes, quicker aerials, and doesn't sacrifice power to speed. Lucas' airs also have more reach than Ness.

Ness' Dash attack is better than lucas' at least...

quote Yoshi Freak

Considered bad characters what one of the two are better in your opinion?

Me: Ness

i like lucas. he's my 2nd best in the game.
(1st being ike).


p.s. i got this awesome game 3 days ago.

quote DarkSpyro_Dragon

I prefer Lucas. Hes one of my best characters. And he has that nice trick to boost his jump hight (if I can do it more consistantly )

Its possible to freeze someone, and then they fall off the stage to their doom, but its hard cause they need to be like right on the edge of the stage. I've only been able to do it once. I dont know if it works with enemies in the air, I can never seem to hit them

Impossible unless they are under the stage cause freezing someone in the air shoots them up giving them plenty of time to break free and too hard fro you to jump and spike. Freeze = useless. Flash, might be harder to pull off, but can be used as a quick defensive attack and a powerful Killer if hit... Ness's yoyos don't have more range, but they are quicker and hard to predict... they set you up for good small simple brawl combos, give you the space you need to counter and great defensive counter. His bat is a good KO tool if you can time it right. Ness = timing, lucas = button mashing.. at least for me. I find NEss more strategic, useful, fun, and diverse than lucas... lucas is just a poor luigified clone of Ness. Ness has a better thunder, yes it give him a poor recovery, but in turn its a much more powerful and useful attack... that to me is better. His fire is better, his air game is better.. his magnet is worse, big deal, and he is hard to pull of KOs with, but no harder than meta knight if you ask me. People like Ikeish characters, big strong KO moves, so they go for Lucas, I liek fast crafty characters, so i go for Ness. I just ranted.