I just want to know how people react when they see who would win such as, Marth and Ike, Pokemon Trainer vs other pokemon, Wario vs. Mario. Sonic vs Captain Falcon, etc.

Marth and Ike are about even against each other, perhaps with a slight advantage to Marth. Marth is a much better character overall, however.

PT is about as close as you get to a character that's even against everyone. Out of the other Pokémon, Pikachu is most troublesome to PT. Pikachu is also the best Pokémon in the game as we know it.

I don't really know anything about the Wario-Mario match-up, but Wario is pretty good on the tourney scene. Mario you don't hear about.

Sonic and Falcon are both pretty bad for the same reasons. Sonic is a little better. Sonic probably wins the match-up.

whoever ur good with is who wins the match

Though I am the FORUM starter, I will say what I think.

I think Ike would win against Marth,(slow but strong, unlike Marth) though most of the time Marth would be attacking him, reflecting too.

I think in the Pokemon battle, Lucario for example would win against Charizard or Bulbasaur, but with an experienced player, Squirtle might have a chance of winning.

I think Mario would win because Mario is above average (throwing etc.), but Wario has many things I don't like, he's fast(with his bike), but weak with few strong attacks.

Against Capt Falcon, I think Sonic would win because he's faster attack wise than Capt Falcon, just how I think Capt Falcon would win against Gannondorf because speed beats strengeth(except for Ike)


If they were both equally skilled, goundertaker!

quote pimaster

Though I am the FORUM starter, I will say what I think.

Your Redemtion?
Its called thread btw

Marth
Pika
Wario
Sonic

Yeah, by the time I realized, you posted. Sorry. LOL
I think the three characters that i'm not good with, but most people are, are pit, marth, and apparently wario!

This message was edited by pimaster on Jul 24 2008.

quote pimaster

I think in the Pokemon battle, Lucario for example would win against Charizard or Bulbasaur, but with an experienced player, Squirtle might have a chance of winning.

I was giving examples; you don't have to use those all the time!

in my opinion here are the bad characters in the game: Gannon, Captain Falcon, Sonic, Lucario, Jigglypuff, and Luigi.
I know i probably offended someone because i listed one of their mains, but IMO those characters are the hardest to win with. Oh yeah, Wolf is pretty crappy too.


This message was edited by billsfan444 on Jun 28 2008.

^I agree with you on Captain Falcon and Ganondorf. Sonic isn't too great either but Lucario and Luigi deserve a little bit more respect.

Luigi has a few things changed about him for the better. His DownB seems to be far more useful than it was in melee and can now be used to recover. His UpB is similiar to Jiggy's Rest from Melee, as timing it right can almost ensure death on your opponent, even at lower percentages. His aerial game is quick with nice reach and power, also, he's now equipped with a spike. Green fire is a decent move for stalling, but lacks quite a bit of range.

Lucario's hitboxes(as WL said) are quite large and difficult to predict how far it reaches. He's a little slow on some attacks, and quite floaty. He jumps fairly high, too bad he suffers from a not so good recovery. He is difficult to approach though, with that massive range of his, and Aura Sphere works decent for keeping the opponent away from you.

Wolf...isn't bad. He has a long recovery, a camping/spammable projectile(to a degree), and he's nearly impossible to edgeguard. Adding onto that, his Ftilit and Fsmash have ridiculous range and are hard to get away from. He hits fairly hard, quickly and efficiently. Of course though, the other spacies out do him in comboing(Fox) and camping (Falco). He seems to be the hardest to kill though, he also kills the earliest out of the three. Anyway, Wolf's aerials are pretty impressive, he does wield two spikes, one of which is almost impossible to land. He can reach a fair distance in the air, but does have noticable lag on some of his airs.

quote billsfan444

Oh yeah, Wolf is pretty crappy too.

quote billsfan444

but IMO those characters are the hardest to win with.

quote goundertaker

whoever ur good with is who wins the match

We're supposed to be talking about match-ups!!

In Ike vs Marth, Marth definetly has the upper hand. Most Ike's only spam Side-A, and Marth can easily counter that with his down+B.

Marth has the agility, quickness, and fast-paced attacks, not even giving Ike a chance. When versing Ike, rely on defense and you've won it.

As for the others

Wario
C.Falcon
Pokemon Trainer

The worst characters are wario, peach, mr game and watch, and gannondorf.
If they were in a fight, I would say Wario would win... THE WORST PERSON IS (for me)..... LUIGI, especially his up B attack, he just goes down!

dude G&W PWNS, and the rest suck although wario can be a beast in the right hands