I found Kojima tried a bit too hard with these bosses. Like he purposely included a huge sad backstory to silence critics who said The Cobra Unit lacked background and personality. But then again The Cobra Unit seemed like a response to Dead Cell. Damn, Hideo just can't please them all.

I felt that they were decent enough, not mind blowing but definitely satisfactory. Probably wouldnt rank with Foxhound but better than the Cobra's or Dead Cell

I found them too easy, some of them had difficult parts to them, that rolling attack comes to mind, put apart from that the only thing challenging about them were the length of battle in couple of cases. I thought some of the cobra unit was harder than BB corps, which is very strange considering i played MGS3 on very easy and MGS4 on solid normal.

^ Same here, I thought that they were too easy to beat (playing on Solid normal). They seem to go down after a few shots which was rather disappointing. I was also hoping for a really good Sniping battle, another one like the end fight, but the Crying Wolf battle just didn't feel right and was again to easy.

quote Big Boss

Plus, the problem with these bosses for me was that they were too "out of this world". In the past games, we were always fighting another human, unless it was a REX or RAY fight. It's almost like the Most Dangerous Game, especially in The End's case. We were always fighting a worthy adversary, that was just another soldier on the battlefield... with some special powers, of course. So these bosses were just odd... it was like I was playing a different video game when it came to the boss battles.

I think the Boss's in general in the MGS series were a bit out of this world. In The End's case for example.. he was already "technically" dead and passed a 100 but had enough accuracy and sight to snipe like he did. Then we had The Sorrow, etc.


The only part I got caught off guard was when Tentacles spinned into me and I got killed. I didn't see that coming. Wolf took me the longest because I, for some reason, forgot that I could use NV and then it was easier. Raven was a bit easy and wished she was harder to fight. The only thing annoying about Vamp and Mantis were their knives.. but once you learned to dodge them, you were good. I'd say one of my favorite fights was with the Rex.. against Ray. (I wish Hideo makes another ZoE)


In the scheme of things.. I agree with the threadstarters ranking of boss fights in the MGS series.

The thing that bothered me the most was on the last battle the camera keep putting me in wierd positions, I was fighting the camera more then ocelot well that an the controls

The Beauty and the Beast team fights definetely weren't as the boss fights had been in previous games. Still fun, but not on par with previous bosses. Screaming Mantis was the only really memorable boss.

Rex vs Ray, the fight with Vamp, and the final battle were pretty cool though.

I was a little disappointed to only fight with girls... No offense, but I like a muscle fight with another guy, 'cause you're not supposed to hit girls.

But I think they at least were a little better than Cobra Unit, as they didn't just blow up when they died.

My opinion:

Psycho Mantis > MGS1 > MGS2 > MGS4 > MGS3

I'd say mgs1 where the best too. I'll never forget first playing the game.

My order would be.....

MGS1 > MGS2 > MGS3 > MGS4

MGS2 is only 2nd mind just because of the amount of times i played it. MGS1 and 2 are just burned into my brain. MGS2 just had that 'play me again' factor.

what about best boss order??? Top 5??? mine would be....
Psycho Mantis
Vulcan Raven (Tank battle)
Sniper Wolf
The End
Olga Gurlukovich (U get to use snake)

I would put Rex battle in there but i didn't wanna put the metal gear battles in.