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Gothic GirlYou're the slum drunk!
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I wonder why Konami would change that in MGS4? ------------------- | |
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Simtastic
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quote Gothic GirlNo, Liquid has total control over Ocelots body which is why i think he is now called Liquid Ocelot. ------------------- | |
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Gothic GirlYou're the slum drunk!
(moderator) Action and Arcade [PS2] Final Fantasy VII [PSX] RPG [PS3] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() since: Sep 2003 |
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That doesn't mean he'd stop talking with a British accent though. ------------------- | |
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Simtastic
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I get what you mean. The only explanation i can give is that Ocelot is like a puppet now, just a body but Liquid has taken over his movements and mind. ------------------- | |
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Lucrecia
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quote Gothic GirlI think Kojima always wanted Liquid to sound like Ocelot when he possessed him. It didn't really make any sense to sound the same in a different body but I guess it was easier to explain to the viewer 'Hey that's Liquid voice! He's alive!!'. I'll miss Cam Clarkes voice acting tho.. ------------------- ![]() 'You see... it's all part of the plan...' | |
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Gothic GirlYou're the slum drunk!
(moderator) Action and Arcade [PS2] Final Fantasy VII [PSX] RPG [PS3] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() since: Sep 2003 |
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Sure, it didn't make sense that Liquid's (Cam Clarke's) voice is coming out of Ocelot's body. ------------------- | |
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Big Boss
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If we're going to judge Liquid's voice on nothing more than whether it makes sense or not, then we should just call the entire thing stupid. The ability for somebody to be able to take over another person's body doesn't make sense. Looking at Vamp, Mantis, the B&B Unit... I don't think that "making sense" is top on Kojima's to-do list. -------------------
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IndependantMOFO
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Does anyone know the reasoning behind Cam Clarke not being in this game? The person who does the Japanese voice of Liquid is doing the game(although this could only be because the original Japanese voice of Ocelot is dead), so I figured the original English voice of Liquid would be back. ------------------- | |
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Stitchmoderator
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quote IndependantMOFO quote WikiPediaThis is the only reason why I think. ------------------- | |
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IndependantMOFO
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Yeah, I've read that before, but I'd really like to know the reasoning for that. I mean Cam Clarke was in MGS2, and it's kinda weird he won't be used for MGS4. ------------------- | |
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Funaki
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I like to see both ------------------- ![]() I'm The Boss Surpass Big Boss Himself http://www.youtube.com/user/UncleViscera | |
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Stitchmoderator
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quote IndependantMOFOWell, I personally think it had something to do because if they didn't use Cam's voice, for Liquid to be shown, then people might get confused about it, or they will probably think that Ocelot is acting like Liquid, and is impersonating him. Or people might say, why Everyone(Snake, Meryl, Otacon etc) immediately believes it's Liquid standing there in Ocelot's body, if Ocelot seems like impersonating Liquid. But using Cam's voice for Liquid Fully in MGS4 will look strange coming out of Ocelot's mouth, especially in these kind of graphics of the PS3. Cam is a perfect Liquid, but seeing a bunch of clips of MGS4, with Liquid Ocelot in it voiced by Patrick Zimmerman, seems to me that Patrick is acting perfectly like Liquid, with the "Brother!!!!!" and the evil laughing, and screaming "Die Sssnnnnake!" also works pretty well with Ocelot's voice. Maybe not with a British accent, but I don't think Kris will demand so much from a voice actor, even if she was married with Patrick for 9 years some long time ago. Patrick has to speak like Ocelot, and has to act like Liquid, and while add it, give it a British accent as well. Maybe Patrick tried with a British accent, and it might didn't work out that good, wouldn't sound right, and in MGS games the voice acting is usually perfect, and not slobby. Would be funny if Cam did it with a Scottish accent, now that would be hard for someone like Patrick if that's the case, but Patrick might not have that talent to speak with a British accent, so they just scrap it, and let it just be like Ocelot, but in Liquid's attitude. That way it also works perfectly. Because it also has to sound like the accent is spoken in a natural way, and not like in a "trying to be British" way, right? ------------------- | |
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Dresken
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I agree with Funaki, however, I doubt we'll be seeing a lot of ocelot in this game, I think we'll be mostly seeing liquid since this is all his plan after all.. ------------------- ![]() | |
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reaver11
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------------------- ![]() "History abhors a paradox" | |
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Dresken
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As reaver11 pointed out, The Twin Snakes has had the worst voice acting out of all the MGS games.. ------------------- ![]() | |
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