pocketstation mechanics q, UCs, and other info

Does anyone have specific details on how the card lottery works?

The current number of UCs is rumored to be at 82. Is there a finished, definite list somewhere?

Why is there such a large discrepancy between the number of UCs and number of cards pocketstation gives out?

I have a ps1 and ps2. I've noticed a difference in the cards won between the two. The ps2 doesn't want to give out any rares. Also, landing my killing blow on the right or center block seems to change the cards won as well.

I played through the game once already, years ago. Every time I tried the last run of 6 people, they -always- pulled out their strongest card, on the ps1. on ps2, they rarely did, repeatedly, and that allowed me to beat the game. it felt cheap.

This time I'm grinding a bit more - 100 duels per person. I went against Duel Master K first, and by the time that was done, could fuse a THTD, on top of a decent female deck.

Maybe the difference I'm experiencing in how I win my cards isn't individual card per se, but more "sets" of cards, it seems. I do 25 duels on ps1, killing blow right, then 25 center. Then do it again on the ps2, but killing blow center first, then right. It also breaks up the monotony. My ps2 never gave up any rare cards. After duels 50-100 on meadow mage, no MBD. ps1 - I got one (had my first at 42, second at 84). Third one at 130. Maybe some sort of bios difference between the actual ps1 and the one in the ps2.

Bit of oddness, the copyright date on mine, at title screen, says 1996. Videos of Jap version say 99.

What it seemed to me is that the number of UCs, being around 82, was much higher than any list of cards obtainable by the pocketstation, either by lottery or comm. fusion. It made me wonder if there were cards that were obtainable from duels in the Jap version that weren't in the US. I know you got the guidebook by reading other posts here. Does that thing list comm. fusions? I know someone who could possibly translate it if you need help.

You rock. I wish I had the resources you do.
Oh yeah, one more thing. I'm guessing that list of confirmed cards is ripped from the US version? (non mod)

Yeah, the translations for the optimal dueling don't come out to anything really understandable.

I used the "all cards" cheat and put every moth and worm (without PUGM) in a deck, along with some cocoons, time wizards, summoned skulls, job change mirrors, and anything else that might have caused a moth fusion. Thinking back, I should have thrown in some more magic cards.
I then went and fought Duel Master K, and he didn't do any fusions, other than 2 job change mirrors for a summoned skull.

BTW, is there some special trick to using the quick win cheat? I activate it, but the L1+L2+R1+R2 never works for me.

Speaking of that list of cards, I wonder if it was taken near the beginning point in the game, and if it could change as the game progresses (more free duels, more fusions, more cards in library).

quote madged1

I'm aware that this is an old thread, but I would like some pocketstation-related questions to be answered.
This is mainly adressed to Infamous_666 but anyone with knowledge to the pocketstation can answer.

1) When you beat the game, you obtain the card lottery (I'm aware this applies to Shin Duel Monsters only). How does it work exactly?

I have not actually beaten Campaign yet on the Japanese version. I am playing the game without ever entering Free Duel since an old user challenged me to do it long ago. The most difficult thing is not being able to S/A TEC Pegasus (unless you want to lose the card you win every time). So right now, I am doing the final deck building steps by S/A TECing the Low Mages for THTD equips.

Because of this, all I have to go by regarding the Card Lottery are Japanese translations using websites like Google Translate.

In one of the pages in the Official Guide, it shows a TV remote interacting with the PocketStation. This could either be diagramming the Card Lottery or Communication Fusion with one PocketStation.

The Japanese Instruction Manual I uploaded scans for a few years ago seems to go in more depth with all of the Communication Fusion functionality.

One translation I did with Google Translate a few years ago indicated that there was a special button input combination that you could input into the PocketStation to unlock the Card Lottery, which also required Campaign to be beaten. In an older thread, I posted all the cards that apparently can be won through the Card Lottery including unconfirmed cards.

quote madged1

2) Once a card is obtained from the lottery, can you use it again? Or does it require something (the campaign completion once again perhaps?)

I am not sure about this either but judging by the fact that multiple cards were listed with different codes, I would imagine that it can be done multiple times. I never read anything about beating Campaign each time as a requirement to do it again. Judging by the "Lottery" translation, luck is probably involved somehow.

quote madged1

3) With communication card fusion, you place three or four cards (depending what it is) from your chest to make a specific card that requires them. Then it gets sent to a second pocketstation which in turn places this new card into the chest. Am I correct by saying this, or is it a little different to that?

From what the translations seemed to indicate, that is the way to perform Communication Fusion. Whether there are other methods, I am not sure.

quote madged1

4) Last question: is the communication card fusion unlocked from the start and can you use it an unlimited amount of times?

I believe so. The menu option has been there ever since I "installed' the Shin Duel Monsters (Forbidden Memories) data onto the PocketStation. This was done with a special option in the Options menu that is not in the English version of the game (it was in the big box on the bottom).

quote madged1

I would be very grateful for informative answers to these four questions relating to the pocketstation in the JAP version of this game. Thanks again. If one has any images or videos of pocketstation in action then please let me know if you so wish to.

Sorry I couldn't be of more help. It is truly difficult to beat Campaign without Free Duel. THTD equips are dropped so infrequently that it takes many S/A TECs to even get one. I would like to get about 6 more THTD equips before I can be confident that I can beat the final 5 duelists.

Once I do that, I will start recording videos of how to do Communication Fusion and hopefully the Card Lottery if I can figure out how to do them. It could be a while as I don't really enjoy S/A TECing, especially when I know how rare the cards I am desiring are dropped.

quote Infamous_666

That's a good question. I'm not sure which version of the game the hacked lists came from. Like I said, have never won anything on the Japanese version that wasn't confirmed.

NTSC-U version infamous

Cool madged1. I may need to ask you how to do Communication Fusion once I beat Campaign .

Here is what I have in my notes for the Card Lottery:


The right & right & left & right & left & left & right & left decisive button

I didn't save the internet translation of the page but I seem to remember that perhaps you need to be on a certain screen when you do the combination.

Hello. I am Madged1's brother. We tried a code for Monster Egg which worked. It stated that we then got the card by exactly saying: "You got: 147". We were able to get back onto the lottery screen afterwards and we tried the Monster Egg code again but this time it said: "Once Only 147". On the Geocities website the card was listed as 5th class or something similar. I believe that because some of the other codes don't work and so far the 5th class code did work we may have to work our way up through the classes before codes for cards like Blue Eyes White Dragon will work, but I could be wrong. We are continuing to try out additional codes now. Thanks again for your help Infamous_666.

Additionally we have found that the bottom card on each of the three sections are working so far but not the others. We are not sure whether we need to work our way up from the bottom to the top of each section or we might need to complete the game more times in order to use the codes higher up on the lists. We can confirm that you can use Card Lottery multiple times and that we can get each card only once.

We were using these codes:
http://www.geocities.co.jp/Milano/8932/takara.html

Nice! Did you have to be on a particular screen for the Card Lottery mode to appear?

Unfortunately, I can't determine if the Official Guide contains any information regarding the Card Lottery. I think we would need help of a translator for that. Most of the pages that could potentially reference the Card Lottery I have already uploaded scans for. The guide does not contain any of the Card Lottery codes.

There is another useful website in Japan that also talked about the Card Lottery. From what I remember, the codes were released in V-Jump; a manga magazine in Japan; presumably each "announcement" (http://www.geocities.co.jp/Milano/8932/takara.html) was from a different magazine issue. Thus, it may be difficult to figure out what to do unless one of the Japanese websites gives us a lead.

That's really too bad how it seems that we might only be able to get one copy of each card from the Card Lottery (greedy, I know ). You could be right about needing to beat campaign multiple times but I haven't read anything to suggest that is necessary.

And yes, I am still working to beat Campaign XD. I need a whole lot of THTD equips and they only drop 1/32 S/A TECs. I have been using the stats listed in the Official Guide's tables but I haven't noticed any improvement in the cards I have received. I am thinking about going to "maximum speed" A-TEC stats.

EDIT:

Here is the link I was talking about:

http://www8.atwiki.jp/yuugiou_fuuin/pages/24.html

Please note that the code in that is internet translated on that page might not be correct.

"Winning condition: that they are "per", and that Pokesute case of "off" does not only give up unfortunately "

The first part seems to be a reference that you can only get each card once as you said. The second part doesn't make any sense to me but whatever it means might explain why the codes didn't work.

Also, I'm not sure why they are grouped by "classes". You might be right that the order you obtain them is from the 5th class to the 1st class.