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Bergin Two much Neo since: Nov 2007	May 21, 10 at 4:06pm ^ re: Moderators Corner 2
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ShadowGuard To Err is human; to forgive, infrequent Neolithic total posts: 6542 GameGrep pts: 1008 since: Apr 2006	May 21, 10 at 4:12pm ^ re: Moderators Corner 2
	quote Avalith quote ShadowGuard Mnmfan and Red 9, I gotta ask you two to start controlling this situation instead of letting people bash Final Blade left and right. People can disagree with his opinion without bashing his existence on this planet. It seems that many people are already capable of doing so. If you read through that thread, you'll find only two people who openly bash Final Blade. Everyone else in the thread was actually quite civil. You're just blowing things out of proportion and trying to make things sound like the world's out to get him, much like he does. Its not just that thread. My words are for what has happened over a very long course of time and it is getting old. quote You yourself, SG, have been at arms with him in the past, and also yourself have derailed threads as well. In fact, I think anything that can be said about FB can also be said about you as well, albeit not as severely. Someone is not a happy camper with me right now, I do not agree with Final Blade most of the time, does not mean I have to insult his existence when I disagree with him. Two very different things Red 9. As for your other comment, dont be a bad sport Red 9. Just because we have not seen eye to eye in the recent weeks, does not mean you need to get all agitated toward me. ------------------- PSN ID: PoliceLEO LIVE: babybird5 (not in use right now)
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Bergin Two much Neo since: Nov 2007	May 21, 10 at 4:34pm ^ re: Moderators Corner 2
	quote ShadowGuard is getting old. Calling out Final Blade on his nonsense is getting old? So what should people do, in your opinion? Just accept it and let him continue? You might think it's 'getting old' but who's fault is that? Is it Final Blades or several members sitewide?
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Mnmfan Devils_Demon on PSN Permanently Plugged In total posts: 13058 neopoints: 504 GameGrep pts: 666 since: Dec 2004	May 21, 10 at 6:51pm ^ re: Moderators Corner 2
	quote Ameer I think if the whole matter had been dealt with privately (through PM and editing) I don't think any of this would have happened. As far as I could tell, the thread seemed to be going fine until the back-and-forth between Chiro and Mnm started, and then Jeter pitched in blahdiblah. Having said all this, I do not deny there is a problem. Let me just explain why I did it in public. Chiro pmed me soon afterwards asking the exact same question so it deserves an answer. I wanted the forum to see that we are not taking the flamming of FB lightly. Chiro is a well respected and senior moderator so I figured if the forum saw that I was going against him (the almighty Chiro that has never been banned) and threatening to ban him then perhaps they would see that we are serious about this problem. A lot happens through pms that the rest of the forum never know about. People get banned in private and no one is ever any the wiser but this was something I felt needed to be done in public. Most importantly though I wanted FB to see that Chiro and I were arguing because of him. Guilt is a powerful thing. If I didn't do it in public then this thread would probably not exist now because none of you would have known about the incident. Yes okay I derailed one single thread because of it but FB has being doing that for a long time anyway. At least the derailing of that thread might lead to something worthwhile for the forum. _____________ Absolutely laughed out loud at Bergins pissing in the supermarket analogy. Priceless. ------------------- \|Reviews\|\|Blog\| Gaming Portal with accurate game reviews & latest gaming news. Visit GamesReviews \|GamesReviews.com\|
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Orion73 Zippity Do Da Days seek-o-holic total posts: 857 since: Nov 2009	May 21, 10 at 7:00pm ^ re: Moderators Corner 2
	quote Bergin quote ChiroVette I absolutely agree with your point, Jack, but keep in mind that public urination is illegal in most places, so that would be the basis of getting rid of the person in your parable. I am not trying to split hairs, and your point is well taken. Okay, so for the sake of realism, we'll say he's screaming in the middle of the supermarket. [size=1][color=#666666]This message was edited by Bergin on May 21 2010. Hell lets just say he is a very obnoxious customer. As you said this is a private business and has the right to refuse service to anyone. Final Blade is making neoseeker loose business and should be removed. -------------------
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ChiroVette Come back to us, Susan. We miss you! (supermod) total posts: 43077 since: Mar 2002	May 21, 10 at 7:49pm ^ re: Moderators Corner 2
	Warning: Potential insult alert here. Read at your own risk. Spoiler: Not really an insult or flame, just my honest opinions! Mnmfan, I admire your trying to use unconventional means to try to get through to him. The problem is that you are dealing with an individual who is either so horribly dense, infantile, and unable to grasp reality, or the single GREATEST and most brilliant troll in the history of the damned Internet! And the truth is I have not been able to truly decide which one I believe is true. Part of me says (and again, I mean no disrespect) that "Nobody can truly be that stupid! Furthermore, it is impossible for a person with basic computer and Internet abilities to be as absolutely, flagrantly, intractably feeble as I have seen him be!" So when I am thinking along these lines, I am picturing this pudgy little nerd sitting in front of his computer screen laughing his ass off every time we all get sucked into one of his thread derailing (or what I call "Froot Looping") tangents. I am imagining him almost falling off his chair at his ability to push all of our buttons the way he manages to do, and for such a long time as he has been able to pull it off here! Then, on the other side of the coin, I have watched a few of his videos, listened to him "speak," and have read some of his posts. In them I have seen the most terrifying butchering of the English language imaginable combined with an absolute seeming inability to understand reality. At these times, I think that maybe the guy has some sort of mild or more pronounced mental disability, like a low level Autism case or something. Now, I am trying to be as delicate as possible here, and know that maybe I am not actually being very delicate at all, but this is what is actually going through my head! I have said this before, and I will say it again in this thread: Part of me actually HOPES that FB is nothing but a brilliant and calculating troll! Because if he really isn't...if he really has no clue about the effects of his posts, his writing, his style of communication, and his constant tangential derailing, then he is perhaps the single stupidest person I have ever had the displeasure of knowing! So here is hoping that he is a brilliant troll! Because I would honestly NOT wish this level of stupidity and social ineptitude on ANYONE, not even someone I can't stand! And that, my friends, is very sincere. Edit: I am trying to come up with another more tactful way of phrasing and rewriting the post in my spoiler tag to maybe spare his feelings, but I cannot. Because these are the exact thoughts that go through my mind when I deal with him and I simply translated them onto this page for your evaluation. No, I am not trying to insult the guy now! Edit: May 21, 10 -------------------
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Ameer Relentless total posts: 9212 since: Feb 2004	May 21, 10 at 7:51pm ^ re: Moderators Corner 2
	Fair enough Emms, explanation enough for me. Don't know how this is going to get any better but I'm crossing my fingers and hoping that one day someday it'll drop for him and he'll get it. Unfortunately, I just don't see that happening any time soon.
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Red 9 The Sky Is My True Home... Neo or Bust total posts: 7204 GameGrep pts: 5446 since: Jun 2005	May 21, 10 at 11:16pm ^ re: Moderators Corner 2
	quote Mnmfan [quote=Ameer\|message:28675463] I wanted the forum to see that we are not taking the flamming of FB lightly. Chiro is a well respected and senior moderator so I figured if the forum saw that I was going against him (the almighty Chiro that has never been banned) and threatening to ban him then perhaps they would see that we are serious about this problem. A lot happens through pms that the rest of the forum never know about. People get banned in private and no one is ever any the wiser but this was something I felt needed to be done in public. Most importantly though I wanted FB to see that Chiro and I were arguing because of him. Guilt is a powerful thing. Me and Chiro have discussed likely the same things that you have, though I don't think to the same extent that you have. Point being, there has been plenty of mod communication going on, and at this point we're really beginning to exhaust our viable options here. And also keep in mind it's not always FB we discuss. ------------------- ! quote Blaming Sony for the PSN outage is like me blaming my car when a bear breaks into it.
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Orion73 Zippity Do Da Days seek-o-holic total posts: 857 since: Nov 2009	May 22, 10 at 1:43am ^ re: Moderators Corner 2
	Do you take breaks talking about FB to discuss the air speed velocity of a swallow Red? -------------------
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Mnmfan Devils_Demon on PSN Permanently Plugged In total posts: 13058 neopoints: 504 GameGrep pts: 666 since: Dec 2004	May 22, 10 at 1:45am ^ re: Moderators Corner 2
	Yeah Chiro I am indeed a very unorthodox kinda guy but you should know that by now. I always think outside the box to try find an alternate solution to a problem. Most mods would never allow the entire forum to discuss another member like this. In fact I don't think it's ever been done. Unfortunatly I don't think this is gonna help. FB is completely ignoring this thread. A thread in which we are trying to help him. I had hoped that FB would join in the debate. Typical. Maybe he thinks this is a bash FB thread so he wants no part of it but I doubt it. He just hates being undermined. ------------------- \|Reviews\|\|Blog\| Gaming Portal with accurate game reviews & latest gaming news. Visit GamesReviews \|GamesReviews.com\|
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ChiroVette Come back to us, Susan. We miss you! (supermod) total posts: 43077 since: Mar 2002	May 22, 10 at 2:42am ^ re: Moderators Corner 2
	Mnmfan, I applaud your effort, I really do. But having dealt with Final Blade, as a mod, for far longer, and with greater frequency than you have, I can tell you that if he participated in this thread, it would not have been any better, and may have been a lot worse. Here is what we would have gotten: _________________________________ quote Red 9 Me and Chiro have discussed likely the same things that you have, though I don't think to the same extent that you have. Point being, there has been plenty of mod communication going on, and at this point we're really beginning to exhaust our viable options here. And also keep in mind it's not always FB we discuss. Oh I am sure you and old man Chiro are discussing me in insulting ways to try to plot forum against me. You guys are pathetic and I won't read all of your big posts because after one sentence my mind goes bye-bye. Why is everyone attacking me? I don't break rules yet you all just flame me and insult me. Don't you have better anything to do? quote Ameer Fair enough Emms, explanation enough for me. Don't know how this is going to get any better but I'm crossing my fingers and hoping that one day someday it'll drop for him and he'll get it. Unfortunately, I just don't see that happening any time soon. What you mean I don't get it? I do. You all hate me and persecute me, especially Chiro, who keeps calling me a Froot Loop and accusing me of thread derails. I on topic all time and you are now being the Froot Loops like Chiro, who I keep telling to get some Viagra, does. quote Mnmfan Let me just explain why I did it in public. Chiro pmed me soon afterwards asking the exact same question so it deserves an answer. I wanted the forum to see that we are not taking the flamming of FB lightly. Chiro is a well respected and senior moderator so I figured if the forum saw that I was going against him (the almighty Chiro that has never been banned) and threatening to ban him then perhaps they would see that we are serious about this problem. A lot happens through pms that the rest of the forum never know about. People get banned in private and no one is ever any the wiser but this was something I felt needed to be done in public. Most importantly though I wanted FB to see that Chiro and I were arguing because of him. Guilt is a powerful thing. If I didn't do it in public then this thread would probably not exist now because none of you would have known about the incident. Yes okay I derailed one single thread because of it but FB has being doing that for a long time anyway. At least the derailing of that thread might lead to something worthwhile for the forum. I had some hope when your defending me against Chiro, but I see you just pretend to be on my side while you secret take Chiro's side. You admitted you derailed the thread, and you accuse me of doing it. But you and Chiro are the thread derailers not me. You want me to feel guilty for being attacked all the time, yet you and Chiro continue to derail that thread and this one. Well I won't fall for it. YOu are all against me. I could go on and on and on, but you see my point? I mean no disrespect with this, but if he was responding, these would be the kinds of things he would have said, which would have started even more arguments. Better that he just stayed out of it, because he is the ONE PERSON in this thread who could learn something from all this, and sadly, the one person who just simply refuses! You guys may not believe me when I say this, but I want to help him, too! I hate the fact that all of us cannot stand the guy! But every time anyone tries to help him, he just throws it back in our faces! -------------------
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Mnmfan Devils_Demon on PSN Permanently Plugged In total posts: 13058 neopoints: 504 GameGrep pts: 666 since: Dec 2004	May 22, 10 at 11:27am ^ re: Moderators Corner 2
	quote Final Blade via PM quote Mnmfan . I had hoped that FB would join in the debate. Typical. Maybe he thinks this is a bash FB thread so he wants no part of it but I doubt it. He just hates being undermined. Why would I want to join in with that discussion? I practically given up trying to justify my actions and it appears everyone even the mods+supers have spend their entire energy "dealing with me". Also, don't act like there wasn't going to be another mod corner thread without this little discussion you wanted to bring up. I get it, you guys dislike me, I loath Jeterocks within my very core of being. Regardless of what Chiro does using my color tag and "acting" like me, he'll just never get it and tbh none of us will. There is only one solution and it's something that none of you can make. It's astounding how Forums like Bad Company 2, Batman:AA, Uncharted 2, Final Fantasy 7(lately), Final Fantasy 8, Final Fantasy 9, Final Fantasy 13 that I have had zero problems with anyone yet when It's GTA Social or PS3 General forums which typically has similar members everything goes Bonkers. I don't get it, but maybe I'm not supposed to get it. Have fun Discussing about me, for as long as you feel it's necessary even though I won't respond to it. This Final Blade Discussion has gone on FAR too long, I haven't broken any SITE rules at all and you arguing with Chiro was actually suspicious considering all the other times you're defending him. I still feel this hacker is going to bring a HUGE problem with sony now that he made a custom Firmware which is only a matter of time before this guy makes it public which could be detrimental to the PS3 future much like I feel with PSP but that's just me, so why I'm getting the shit posts from Jeterocks is beyond me and how you allow such behavior which is neither helping ANYTHING and more disrupting than my honest threads and posts is odd to me but whatever. So with enjoy the forum, you guys finally won. Go celebrate drink Champagne or whatever. I give up. ------------------- \|Reviews\|\|Blog\| Gaming Portal with accurate game reviews & latest gaming news. Visit GamesReviews \|GamesReviews.com\|
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Ameer Relentless total posts: 9212 since: Feb 2004	May 22, 10 at 1:24pm ^ re: Moderators Corner 2
	Did he just infer he was leaving the forum?
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reaver11 Welcome to Prime Time, Bitch! Neolithic since: Dec 2004	May 22, 10 at 3:18pm ^ re: Moderators Corner 2
	You know, for a second, I thought it was just Mnm re-posting what Chiro wrote just w/o the in-between stuff quote Final Blade So with enjoy the forum, you guys finally won. Go celebrate drink Champagne or whatever. Umm, real men drink Whisky ------------------- TheLostWorlds.net
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Jeterocks CR7 Seeketh Maximus total posts: 5792 GameGrep pts: 909 since: Jan 2004	May 22, 10 at 5:21pm ^ re: Moderators Corner 2
	quote reaver11 You know, for a second, I thought it was just Mnm re-posting what Chiro wrote just w/o the in-between stuff quote Final Blade So with enjoy the forum, you guys finally won. Go celebrate drink Champagne or whatever. Umm, real men drink Whisky Holy Shit. I actually thought this as well. I actually didn't even read it the first time because I just did a quick glance and figured it was just a quote of Chiro. Then I just looked again and realized it was a Final Blade quote and I could do nothing but laugh. I really hope he is gone, I truly believe that the forum will be a better place without him. After reading what Chiro wrote, and then Final Blade's PM...Chiro, you really hit the nail on the head when you tried to impersonate him. That was great. -------------------
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