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Sony to reveal smaller, more efficient Cell processor at ISSCC 2008

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Information provided through the ISSCC 2008 program are brief, but the document - which was posted earlier this month on the ISSCC website – offers some insight what we can expect to learn this year. Sony is apparently working on a 65 nm to 45 nm migration of its Cell Broadband Engine. Sony claims that the chip area size will be reduced by 34% and the 45 nm Cell will consume 40% less power than the 65 nm generation. The company also works on improving the design for manufacturability (DFM) for Cell to simplify the CPU production process.

Intel remains one of the major contributors to the conference and has submitted a total of 16 papers. We hear that there will be an update on the company’s Terascale effort, even if there is no dedicated session mentioned in the ISSCC program. Instead, it appears that Intel will have two major focus areas: The upcoming Tukwila Itanium processor and Silverthorne, which will be heading towards entry-level systems as well as Mobile Internet Devices (MIDs).

The ISSCC document describes Tukwila as a two-billion transistor 65 nm quad-core processor with a die size of 699 mm2. The CPU integrates 30 MB of L2 cache and 96 GB/s processor-to-processor bandwidth through the firm’s new “QuickPath” Interconnect. The peak memory bandwidth of Tukwila is 34 GB/s. Intel says Tukwila has three times the circuitry of the current Itanium generation with Montvale core.
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I think this will help reduce the cost of the PS3 and make the 40GB version to $299 at one point.
Whats your take on this.



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re: Sony to reveal smaller, more efficient Cell processor at ISSCC 2008

If it really is more effective, where does this leave the PS3s with the 'less efficient' processors?



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Sony is starting to gain some momentum in their hardware and software sells. They won't reduce the price until it becomes a must, which won't be for some time unless the console's upcoming releases completely flop again.
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If it really is more effective, where does this leave the PS3s with the 'less efficient' processors?
It leaves them right where they are now. All processors shrink with time, its how the technology works. Why do you think the PS2 got so small in its later years? Its because they have a smaller chipset inside it.


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re: Sony to reveal smaller, more efficient Cell processor at ISSCC 2008

More efficient doesn't mean more powerful necessarily. For example For a few years AMD was labeling their processors with equivilent numbers. Such as say a 3500+. They did this because the processor was equal to Intels 3.5GHz processor in similar benchmark tests. However in part due to the way AMD formulated their clock speeds and how efficient the chips were it was in fact only about 2.2GHz.

So AMD had by all accounts a much more efficient processor but not really a more powerful processor. Unless of course you compared it to anoter 2.2GHz. However Again it is possible to make a processor more efficient without actually making it more powerful. Think one person doing the same amount of work as two sort of thing. It would be cheaper to employe one person for slight more than it would be to employe two at minimum. Equally so it would be cheaper to manufacture a more efficient chip that requires less to build creates less heat takes less space and does the same amount of work.


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