Okay inspired by tRaViS_p0w3ll's little chat about Blue Mages from Final Fantasy Tactics Advance.

It is a Battlemage type class and needs the skills to match this, so advice on which Major Skills to use, which Attributes to favourate and what specialization to choose would be nice.

Every creature in the game will be given there own spell or effect that must be gained by either being hit by them or any spells they actually possess or by just killing them, you must not cast the spell before fighting the creature.

Favoured Attributes

Strength
Intelligence


Specialization: Magic

Major Skills

Blade
Block
Heavy Armour
Conjuration
Destruction
Illusion
Restoration


Spell list

Akatosh: Fire Damage 100pts 3 secs Weakness to Fire 50pts 1 sec (Akatosh's Embrace) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [sanelane]
Fire Damage 3 points for 120 seconds on target (Flamethrower) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [skythelegend]
Altmer: Fortify Magicka 100 points on self for 60 seconds, Resist Disease 25 points for 60 seconds (Elven Blood) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [Nyff Total]
Argonian: Resist Poison 100% and Water Breathing 120 Seconds on Self (Argonian Guile) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [BluePhoenix1990]
Water Breathing for 120 secs on self (Eternal Breath) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [TheFallenOne]
Fortify Security 50 pts for 60 secs on self (Nimble Fingers) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [TheFallenOne]
Black Bear: Demoralize 50ft for 10 seconds on target (Roar of the Bear) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [Dillion298]
Boar: Fortify hand to hand 100 points on self (Boar's Charge) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [dillion298] ~need duration~
Bosmer: Fortify Marksmen 40 points, Detect Life 100ft for 120 seconds (True Sight) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [sanelane]
Fortify Marksmen 50 pts for 120 secs on self (Bow of the Bosmer) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [TheFallenOne]
Fortify H2H 50 pts for 120 secs on self (Hands of Death) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [TheFallenOne]
Fortify Health 50 pts for 60 secs on self (Eternal Life) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [TheFallenOne]
Breton: Resist Magic 50% for 60 secs on self (Breton Essence) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [TheFallenOne]
Fortify Magicka 100 pts for 60 secs on self (Magica Pool) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [TheFallenOne]
Brown Bear: Frenzy in 50 ft up to level 25 for 60 secs on target, Fortify Hand to Hand 40 pts for 60 secs on self (Bear Phobia) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [TheFallenOne]
Clannfear: Fortify speed 20 points for 60 secs on self, Fortify hand to hand 20 points for 60 secs on self. (Clannfear's Claws) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [dillion298]
Daedroth: Fortify Endurance 100 points for 60 seconds on self. (Daedroth's Skin) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [dillion298]
Deer: Fortify Fatigue/Fortify Acrobatics 30pts/30sec on Self (Grace of the Forest) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [tRaViS_p0w3ll]
Dog: Resist Disease/60sec on Self (Doggy Medic) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [tRaViS_p0w3ll] ~need magnitude~
Dunmer: Resist Fire 75 pts on self (Dunmeri Protection) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [TheFallenOne] ~need duration and effect usable by none Dunmer~
Summon Ghost for 60 secs on self (Dunmeri Guardian) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [TheFallenOne]
Flame Atronach: Fire Damage 50pt on Touch (Flame Tempest) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [tRaViS_p0w3ll]
Frost Atronach: Frost Damage 50pt on Touch (Avalanch) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [tRaViS_p0w3ll]
Ghost: Frost Damage 10pt (Ghost Grasp) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [tRaViS_p0w3ll]
Giant Slaughterfish: Water Breathing 120 secs on self
Fortify speed 100 points on self (Lung of the Slaughterfish) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [dillion298] ~need duration~
Goblin: Weakness to Normal Weapons/Weakness to Poisen 30sec on Touch (Goblin's Fury) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [tRaViS_p0w3ll]
Absorb Strength 15 pts for 30 secs on self
(Goblins Fury) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [TheFallenOne]
Goblin Shaman: Fortify Health, Strength, Blade 20 points for 120 seconds (Goblin Ritual) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [sanelane]
Shock Damage 100pts on target (Shaman's Staff) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [dillion298]
Damage Health 50 Points on Self, Soul Trap for 60 Seconds on Target (Trickster's Grasp) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [skythelegend]
Gray Fox:
Guard: Sheild 30%/50sec on Self (Mighty Guard) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [tRaViS_p0w3ll]
Hist Tree: Shock Shield 30 Points on Self for 60 Seconds on Self (Wamasus Bark) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [skythelegend]
Horse: Fortify Speed 50 points on self 120 secs (Horse's Gallop) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [dillion298]
Imp: Restore Health 20pt/5sec on Self (Fallen Angel) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [tRaViS_p0w3ll]
Shock Damage/Drain Fatigue on Target (White Wind) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [tRaViS_p0w3ll] ~need magnitude and duration~
Imperial: Charm 100 pts for 60 secs on touch (Hand of the Imperial) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [TheFallenOne]
Khajiit: Night Eye, Detect Life and Fortify Speed 30 Points for 60 Seconds on Self (Khajiit's Dream) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [tRaViS_p0w3ll]
Land Dreugh: Damage Health 3 Points for 5 Seconds, Disintegrate Armour 100 Points on Touch (Acid Spray) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [skythelegend]
Lich: Frost Damage 20pt/Absorb Health 20pt/20sec on Touch (Lich Life) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [tRaViS_p0w3ll]
Absorb Health 5 Points, Soultrap for 5 Seconds on Touch (Soul Feast) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [skythelegend]
Mankar Cameron: Summon Bound Sword, Bound Gauntlets, Bound Greaves, Sheild, Bound Helmet, Bound Cuirass (Mythic Protection) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [TheFallenOne] ~Bound Sword effect is two handed, Sword or Axe/Dagger/Mace and Shield?~
Mannimarco: Reanimate for 300 Seconds on Target (Worm Thrall) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [skythelegend] !Mod only! Mehrunes Dagon: Drain Health 100pts 3secs (Sciphoning Claw)
Minotaur: Fortify Health 50 points for 40 seconds(beasts strength) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [chappy27]
Minotaur Lord: fortify health 100 points for 40 seconds(beast lords strength) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [chappy27]
Drain Magic/Fatigue/Strentgh on Touch (Mino Hammer <Magicka cost> {Skill Level}) [tRaViS_p0w3ll] <need magnitude and duration>
Mountain Lion: Drain Health/Fatigue 30pts 5sec on Target (Swift Swipe) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [tRaViS_p0w3ll]
Mud Crab: 100% Weakness to Frost/Frost Damage 20pt on Touch (Crab Claw) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [tRaViS_p0w3ll]
Night Mother:
Nord: Frost Damage 50 pts for 10 secs on target (Breath of the Child) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [TheFallenOne]
Ogre: Fortify STR 30pt 30sec on Self (Ogre's Support) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [tRaViS_p0w3ll]
Orc: Fortify Blunt, Armourer and Heavy Armour 50 Points for 20 Seconds on Self (Orc's Furnace) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [tRaViS_p0w3ll]
Rat: Drain Blade/Block/Blunt/30sec on Target (Rat Poisen) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [tRaViS_p0w3ll] ~need magnitude~
Redguard: Fortify Agility 20 Points, Rally for 30 Seconds on Touch (Adreneline Burst) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [skythelegend]
Scamp: Fire damage 30 pts on target (Scamps Fury) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [dillion298]
Sheep: Calm for 120 second on target (Sheep's Infatuation) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [dillion298]
Siege Crawler: Weakness to Fire 100%, Fire Damage for 75 Points for 1 Second, Soul Trap for 2 Seconds on Target (City Destroyer) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [Hobbfather]
Skeleton: Summon Skeleton(of any level) on Self 120 secs, Weakness to Fire for 60 Seconds on self (Undeath's Embrace) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [dillion298] ~need magnitude~
Slaughterfish: Fortify Speed/Atheletic 50pt/50sec on Self (Water Rush) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [tRaViS_p0w3ll]
Waterbreathing/Nighteye/Fortify Fatigue 60sec on Self (Swift Swim) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [tRaViS_p0w3ll] ~need magnitude~
Water Breathing 120 secs on self
Fortify speed 100 points on self (Lung of the Slaughterfish) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [dillion298] ~need duration~
Spectral Mudcrab: Chameleon max magnitude and duration your magicka level can handle (Shimmer) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [skythelegend]
Spider Daedra: Demoralize 50ft on target (Arachnid's Glare) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [dillion298] ~need duration~
Spriggan: Command/60sec on Target (Mind Control) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [tRaViS_p0w3ll]
Storm Atronach: Shock Damage 50pt on Target (Lighting Rod) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [tRaViS_p0w3ll]
Troll: Weakness to fire 100 pts on self, Fortify hand to hand +100 on self (Troll's Fist) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [dillion298] ~need duration~
Unicorn: Restore Health/Magic 20pt/5sec on Self (Unicorn's Blessing) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [tRaViS_p0w3ll]
Vampire: Resist Poison 100% for 60 seconds on self
Resist Disease 100% for 60 seconds on self
Resist Paralysis 100% for 60 seconds on self
Weakness to fire 100% on self (Nocturnal Prowl) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [TheFallenOne]
Will-o-the-Wisp: Drain Magic/Health, 30pt/5sec. on Target (Will Of The Wisp) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [tRaViS_p0w3ll]
Wolf: Demorilize 50sec on Target (Wolf Whistle) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [tRaViS_p0w3ll]
Wraith: Resistance to Frost 100 points on self for 120 secs, Frost damage 50 pts on Touch (Wraith's Palm) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [dillion298]
Xivalai: Xivalai:Summon Clannfear 120 secs on self (Xivilai's Call) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [dillion298]
Shock damage 60 Pts on target (Xivilai's Finger) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [dillion298]
Invisability 20 secs on self (Xivilai's Escape) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [dillion298]
Zombie: Absorb Health 20pt/10sec on Touch (Zombie's Touch) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [tRaViS_p0w3ll]


Knights of the Nine Spells

Auroran:
Talos: Fortify Health 60 pts for 120 secs, Fortify Blade 40 points for 120 secs on self (Talos' War Cry) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [TheFallenOne]
Umaril: Fire/Frost/Shock Damage 3 Points for 30 Seconds on Target (Magic Breath) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [skythelegend]


Shivering Isles Spells

Baliwog:
Dark Seducer: Charm 60 pts for 10 secs on touch (Seductive Touch) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [TheFallenOne]
Shock Damage 30 pts for 30 secs on touch (Mazken's Protection) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [TheFallenOne]
Elytra: Summon Spider Daedra 30 Seconds on Self and Demoralize 30 Seconds on Target (Arachnophobia) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [skythelegend]
Flesh Atronach: Drain Health 30pts on touch(canabalise) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [chappy27]
Gatekeeper: Paralyze 1 Second in 100 Range on Target (Void Storm) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [skythelegend]
Gnarl: Restore Health 75 pts on self, drain speed 30 pts on self (Plant) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [Kaitsith]
Golden Saint: Invisibility for 60 secs on self (Auriels Grace) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [TheFallenOne]
Grummite:
Hunger: Absorb Fatigue 16 Points for 7 Seconds on Touch (Consumption) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [skythelegend]
Jyggalag: Fortify Speed, Reflect Damage and Spell Absorption 20 Points for 30 Seconds on Self (Mighty Guard) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [skythelegend]
Knight of Order:
Priest of Order: Invisibility for 120 secs on self (Priests Attack) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [TheFallenOne]
Scalon: Summon Daedroth for 60 Second on Self, Invisiblity for 60 Second on Self (Scalon's Wrath) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [skythelegend]
Shambles:
Sheogorath: Telekinesis 100 Points for 120 Seconds on Target(Major Warp) <Magicka cost> {Skill Level} [Kaitsith]
Skinned Hound:


The Siege Crawler must be destroyed before the timer reaches 10 minutes, Dagon must be knocked unconcious, Akatosh must be seen, Talos must give you his blessing and Sheogorath must disappear to become Jyggalag.

Okay I will edit this post depending on what ideas I get from everyone, which is why I left room where the stats and spells blank, so you can come up with the most outlandish spells imaginable.

I can come up with a few ideas, but the reason I'm leaving everything blank to start with is so other members can get involved and post their own ideas for Blue Mage stats and spells.

This message was edited by skythelegend on Oct 04 2009.

I'm confused too, but as for major skills I would suggest:

Conjuration
Destruction
Illusion
Blade
Light Armor
Restoration
Anything for the 7th really, perhaps Acrobatics, Block, Alchemy or Alteration

quote BluePhoenix1990

Im guessing Conjuration is a major??

Could be, I'll wait until we've built a character and try it to see how it works.

quote BluePhoenix1990

Im actually confused as to the point of this thread?

The point is for people to post their ideas for the build of an Oblivion version of the Final Fantasy Blue Mage and what kind of custom spells each creature allows a Blue Mage player to cast, it require at least some RPing.

I think Blade as a Major Skill because in Final Fantasy they used swords, it's just the other skills I'm wondering about, okay I'll edit our sugestions for Major skills into the first post BP, since it's a mage it'll probably be Magic specialization huh?

Oh ok, I've never actually played a Final Fantasy game and had never heard of a blue mage, so my suggestions are probably wrong. Sorry, didn't realise.

The skills I suggested would make a good mage though!

quote RobtheGooner

I've never actually played a Final Fantasy game and had never heard of a blue mage, so my suggestions are probably wrong

Blue Mages have to ability to learn enemy monsters special abilities and use them as spells, which is why I've list all the creatures in the game under the spell list, they're also quite good at melee combat for a mage using Sabers as their weapons, sabers are blade so, you got that suggestion right.

For the spells just look at each creature and use your imagination and please let me know wether the creatures should have a custom spell or a spell effect registered to them.

So they could learn a Flame Atronach's ability and therefore cast some kind of ranged fire damage spell?

Exactly, well sort of, like I mentioned in my second post it requires a bit of RPing (Role Playing) before using their abilities fight them, either get hit by their special attack and kill them or if they don't cast anything just outright kill them.

Then create a custom spell, or allow yourself to use a certain spell effect in custom spells.

Let's make as many of the spells for this Blue Mage as useful as possible, as soon as we get the first complete build up I'd like someone else to help playtest the build, but if you like the idea of playing as a Blue Mage you'll be doing that anyway.

It's hard to think of spells for the creatures that don't fight with a weapon or magic. Perhaps for some of the big scary creatures like Minotaurs you could have a "terrify" spell. Can't think of the proper name for it but the one that makes enemies less willing to attack. I think there's one called Fearful Gaze or something.

I like the look of the spells so far, but I'd like to see with them the delivery method.

Should Umaril be on the creature list as well? I mentioned I may add him if you guys think I should.

The Gatekeeper deserves a powerful spell, I'm thinking my Paralysis spell I keep talking about, oh if I add Umaril I'll have to add Jigsaw won't I?

quote tRaViS_p0w3ll

Like a combat method for their use? Or like Target, Touch, Self, etc?

Target, Touch and Self please.

quote tRaViS_p0w3ll

If your having the Gatekeeper, then yes, have Umaril. As for Jigsaw, who the hell is that, unless you mean Jggy

Okay so the bosses from KOTN and SI shall be added, both Umaril and Jigsaw (Jygggalsdlaaggaadad)(Jygsalad)(Jygg.. ah screw it I can't spell his name right) oh right it says on the uesp Jyggalag.

Special spells and effect locks only, adding special enchantments to a sword is the skill of a Mystic Knight/Spellblade (FFV) and Gladiator (FFTA), though it would be nice to have a function that allowed us to temporarily enchant our swords.

It's only right with Conjuration being a Major Skill that we have at least one Summon spell as a creature spell, maybe a full suit of Bound Armour with Bound Weapon?


BTW I personally think the Wolf spell should have the Rally effect, but will leave it out here as a vote, at least seven users must agree with any change to a spell before I make it happen, otherwise it will not be implemented.

quote tRaViS_p0w3ll

Mountain Lion = Drain Health/Fatigue 30pts 5sec (Swift Swipe) Target
Orge = Fortify STR 30pt 30sec (Ogre's Support) Self
Zombie = Absorb Health 20pt/10sec (Zombie's Touch) Touch
Lich = Frost Damage 20pt/Absorb Health 20pt/20sec (Lich Life) Touch

quote tRaViS_p0w3ll

Will-O-Wisp = Drain Magic/Health, 30pt/5sec. (Will Of The Wisp) Target
Ghost = Frost Damage 10pt (Ghost Grasp) Touch
Wolf = Demorilize 50sec (Wolf Whistle) Target

quote tRaViS_p0w3ll

Flame Andronach = Fire Damage 50pt (Flame Tempest) Touch
Frost ` = Frost Damage 50pt (Avalanch) Touch
Storm/Shock ` = Shock Damage 50pt (Lighting Rod) Target

There you go Sky :]

EDIT: I'll make the character later tonite and play around with it, and I'm working on more "Self" spells, since it's lakcing in that area.