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I have setup a mini guideline of what to do / not-do so everyone on Neoseeker can benefit, and enjoy a scam-free trade environement.
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Procedures to follow as a Seller through PayPal1. Settle an agreement over the price (include Currency) for the item and document it.
2. Request verified paypal email address from the buyer.
3. Request buyer to confirm the verified email address by sending a short email to your verified email address. (*see reference below for example)
4. Create an Invoice for the transaction and send to buyer
5. When creating an Invoice, there is a little disclaimer box. Make sure you note buyer assumes all responsibility and liability pertaining to this transaction - No refund / No cancellation / No charge-back.
6. Once the item is transferred, receive confirmation through email (best) or PM from the buyer they have received the goods.
7. Document all this and input the documetns in created folder with the date of the transaction.
*I (buyer's full name) hereby confirm this email address is rightfully mine, and I give my full consent to (seller's full name and verified paypal email address) pay the amount of (amount decided in exact Currency).If you have followed these instructions, you are
FULLY COVERED under
Paypal Seller Protection.
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Warning against Account PurchasingDue to the recent trade ban, the only effective way of selling is providing the account as a whole. I am aware a lot of users are irate about the conduct of Cygames and Mobage, and they are selling accounts as they are quitting the game for good. However, I am starting to notice a lot of suspicious sellers as well.
There is some serious risk involved, so all users must do this at their own discretion:1. Any accounts tied to Facebook can and will be reversed to the original seller, even if you replace the email and password. There is no way for the buyer to verify if an account is in fact tied to the sellers Facebook account. As Mobage does not permit account / items selling, there is no way for the buyer to retrieve the account once called back.
2. Accounts can be logged on from multiple devices at once, and the seller can choose to stay logged on the account even after the account has been sold. The buyer may decide to change information such as password once purchased, however, the seller who is still logged on can easily modify the primary email and reset the new password by clicking on password retrieve (which will be sent to the new email address modified). Remember, you do not need a password to modify the primary email on the Mobage account.
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A note on this. ibezee confirmed the account can be logged off on all devices if the UDID is changed from one end.3. This isn't confirmed (but has validity). Few have told me Mobage will always provide the account information, and reset the password if the original account holder emails from the initial email address used upon account creation. Once again, as Mobage does not accept Account selling, they will simply consider this as an act of "account hacking" and will side with the Seller.
As you can see, the buyer has absolutely no power in retaining the account that is purchased. Especially with the trade lock, and the bazaar system, the buyer has no way of transferring the items to their account in time before an account is re-called.
I suggest all account buyers conduct transactions with precautions, and take measures to ensure they are protected from possible scams.
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Warning against transferring Items via BazaarWith the new system up, a lot of players are eager to transfer items between accounts, or use the "loophole" in the Bazaar system by placing bogus normal / High normal cards in exchange for cards you wish to transfer (or cards you are selling to a buyer).
In a perfect world, you would be placing a Hamsa, and you would construct your wishlist for example 1000 HP + Legend Cerberus. Now you're thinking, there is no way in hell a person would take that trade but me (to transfer items / cards), and if in a blue moon someone pays that for my Hamsa, I will gladly take it!
Well here are reasons why you should avoid this at all cost:1. Your search results are filtered (this is mentioned on the Bazaar guide as well). This means you have a chance of not being able to view the posting you made from another account.
2. People have started browsing normal / high-normal tabs in search for these lopsided trades. If they suspect someone is transferring cards these ways, they will place a duplicate trade up in the bazaar. The fact that you CANNOT see the seller's name until the purchase is made is what they'll try to take advantage of. I have already seen a victim of this, so please be careful.
3. Buyers can easily claim the item was not retrieved by them (and sometimes it may be true), in which then the Seller will be in a position to refund the full amount, or the buyer can file a charge back (even if they did receive the items). The reverse can as well be applied, and the seller may claim they listed on the bazaar as discussed and someone already purchased it. The uncertainty of this method is a huge liability.
I understand everyone is anxious to sell cards, however, it is better to be safe and wait the probation period than to have yourself get scammed this way.
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Ways to ensure you are safe while performing a trade on Neoseeker- If you are unsure of the buyer / seller, always use a Middle Men. There are few noted, and trustworthy middle men in Neoseeker at your disposal. The main ones being
ibezee and
dgtlmonk @:
http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/25837/t1753017-limited-availability-ibezees-rob-middle-man-service-read-for-details-v1-71/- Just because a person is new to the forum does not necessarily mean they are a scammer, however, it is always safe to sell to trusted, and long time members of Neoseeker. If a trusted member offers you $100.00 less than a brand new member, or a guest, I strongly suggest you to bite the immediate profit lost and go with the sure money in the pocket.
- Please do not deal directly by email. Always make sure the user responds in the forum at least once. This adds an extra filter which you can verify suspicious users with their IP and match with blacklisted members.
- Please verify through PM if any person claims they are someone from the forum by a different source such as email. Impersonation has occurred in the past and it is highly-likely to repeat.
- Do not make PARTIAL transactions. Give me half -> I'll give you the goods -> Then you give me the rest is the oldest scamming trick in the book. If they can't get the full, they want to resort to at least half. If any instance such as this occurs, please make sure to suggest a use of Middle Men.
- It is strongly recommended that you use an Alt account for transactions performed on Neoseeker. It is a fact people have not been penalized yet, however, it doesn't necessarily guarantee Mobage will not start sniffing around to lift the ban hammers against Cash Traders in the near future.
- Join the Neoseeker inter-network. It takes 2 weeks to be fully approved, but once in, you will have access to hundreds of sellers / buyers, and trusted Middle Men will be ready to assist you with your trades to ensure safety and satisfaction.
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Here is to hoping a friendly, safe, and trustworthy environment in Neoseeker!
Edit: Sep 14, 12 2:44pm
