Sorry my quotting of you is not in any particular order.quote duran1
the shotguns are good for their spread. You know why? because revolvers, rifles, rockets, smgs, pistols, machine guns *bleep*ing suck with lead. No one has lead any good at 100 ping up. In fact, almost everyone's aim in this game sucks for all the other guns, even at low pings. That would also include you. If you had any aim what-so-ever you wouldn't need to use something with spread. I'm better with pistols because of my aim. If I'm going to peg them from long-range with a weapon, why would I want something that does anywhere from 8-60dmg when I can ahve a promised 40? If my aim is the same, why risk doing less damage from across the map? Besides, with aim like me you don't need to spread. Only 1 of my 4 characters has a shotty and that's because I wanted to try a different combo.quote duran1
I must be the same for you, a know-it-all kstyler, but unfortunately for you, I just have more experience playing this game than you. Dude, I've been playing this since the closed BETA from the actual GunZ website (until it got stupid and computers made it unplayable for some people...) I still ButterFly but SS and Side-step and that garbage was jsut too...stupid. I found that slowing down, actually lets me see the map and catch movement. I've snuck up on Kstylers because they were stupid enough to keep jumping and moving and staying high in the air. If I were donig the same as them, I promise you I wouldn't have seen them, so I stopped.quote duran1
I probably have several times the amount of kills you have. Yeah...I deleted my main Named Napoléon so I could remake him on my newer username but as it would turn out, the accented E wasn't allwoed to be made again...I really got no proof of my skill. I think the strongest character I have right now is just a lv 20 thanks to deleting Napoléon...quote duran1
They are that imbalanced, and virtually any good player in this game knows that shotguns are the best gun through experience alone. They have good hit considering they spread, I'll give you that much and great damage if you can hit with a good number of shells. Every weapon has their ups and downs and for my playing style, I cannot adapt to them (Unless I have a rifle as my main weapon).For example, the way I play with my combination of Phantom Cruise (Revolver 2X) and Raven 6 (Pistol 2X) is probably the equivilant of you and your shotguns. It's really ahd to compare styles but at least I'm not one of those losers in berzerker matchs that picks up one of those massive machine guns just to move people down with that have no skill. Damn, talk about losers. They're easy to kill if they don't have the zerker...quote duran1
And I'm just going to point out that many fights end up close-range, and you can guess just how dominant shotguns are there. If I have low enough health, lets say from about 80-ish with a little AP, then yeah, but my Revs have a higher fire-rate with a steady damage of aprox 36-50+ pending on what yo're using and usually, I can take down someone before they get their 2nd, or 3rd shot, depending on how much we hit eachother before it got close.quote duran1
whereas you seem to be playing in Free Channel. Yeah, like my guys are gonna level up from 1 there with all the lv 50s playing Atk/Def in Mansion. 1 shot and I'm down. I'm doing the smart thing of leveling all my new characters to lv 11 before letting any of them hit 21. I'm not going to let my past failiers impact my my scores so I deleted all my characters and started fresh so my skill level starts where it is now and now when I first began. I mean, I got a lv 9 with 71.1% win streak and he's got Rifle/Revs. Most of the deaths are from getting launched into the air and down the abyss on the island. CHEAPEST, MOVE, EVER. I've seen pros get owned by that shit.quote duran1
So what does more damage, someone hitting with that "buck-shot BS" 50% of the time, or someone with revolvers hitting 10% of the time? Yes, people have horrible aim with revolvers. It only gets worse with the other guns. If you're doing anywhere from 8-72dmg with shotty 50% of the time and 36dmg with Revs 10% (which is laughably low accuracy) keeping in mind that the damage for the shot gun is a variable due to the ammount of shells actually hitting, it should be aronud the same because the revs are a constant. You have to admit that some of the shotgun shells are only going to hit 8 while tohers will hit higher (compensating and raising the comparison to make it about equal)
Let's say you're fighting and have 5 shots in your Breaker 7. All five hit.
Clip:5x5
DMG:8
Delay:1,000
Shot 1 - 8dmg
Shot 2 - 8dmg
Shot 3 - 16dmg
Shot 4 - 8dmg
Shot 5 - 40dmg
The first 2 shots were from afar. The 3rd was you closing in and the 4th was from being too close aiming slightly off and just clipping them. (I've done it and it's happened before. At close range at the speed you're moving, yeah, you can either hit for alot or miss) Shot number 5 had 5 shelss hit (5X8=40). That's a total of 80 damage. Now, tim for revolvers.
Let's say my Phantom Cruise are the subject. (Keep in mind I'm comaring two different fights. The shotty and PC are not fighting each other and that I'm not using the Phantom Cruise N, the lv21 upgraded model)
Clip: 6X8
DMG: 44
Delay:400
Shot 1 - Miss
Shot 2 - 44dmg
Shot 3 - Miss
Shot 4 - Miss
Shot 5 - 44dmg
Shot 6 - Miss
Let's say you're shooting at a Kstyler and 4/6 miss. Even so, the damage still adds up to 88, 8dmg more than the Breaker 7. I'll give you that if EXP was based on damage done, we'd probably be pretty even.
Now, the real tricky part is puting them against eachother. For that, you'd most likely want two weapons. If a Kstyler (Assuming we're both a max of lv 30) is going up against me, I'd pick for my weaps either:
Phantom Cruise/ Dynax 8000
Phantom Cruise/ Raven 6
Phantom Cruise/ Raptor 160
(Because, let's face it: unless I manage to Massive you, a rifle is useless)
And I'm assuming your choices would be:
Breaker 7/ Breaker 6
Breaker 7/ Avenger
The reason I gave you said weapons is that my fire rate will make me relaod more and you'll most likely do the same, so I gave us both two weapons to vary between so reloads are long apart.
Pending on skill, either one will win. The Avenger could do a total of 90dmg if all shells hit with a delay of 1200. My Phantoms can hit you 3 times in the time it takes to do 1, provided each of them hit. Truthfully, it will come down to aim/skill. While your shotties have the spread, I have more ammunition and bullets at a time but I will run out fast. Either way, they're pretty equal. Let's just agree to say in the right hands, any weapon is deadly. I'm going to make the assumption that you're better with a Breaker than you are a Nico rifle. the same can be said that I'm better with a Phantom Cruis (2x) than the Avenger. While you argue shotties are the best in the game, a few non-Ks (or former Ks) disagree and can take you guys down. For xample, I'm a bitch to kill, though truthfully I use guerilla tactics when I get low on hp (because med-kits are a pain for weapon changes). I know Ks and Ds that can own me and I know that I can own them. It's all on skill. But, you have to admit, if the majority of KStylers did not have shot guns, their accuracy would, indeed, 'suck ass'.
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