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Jun 23, 08 at 04:43PM
re: The Elder Scrolls NeoPortal

If you build it they will come. If you make it as good or better than the competition, but different, they will come.

There's always issues such as accessibility, UI, navigation, layout, ease of use, and etc that might convince someone to refer to the NeoWiki instead of another source, or vice versa. I can bet you that even if the Morrowind NeoWiki were FULL of information another wiki would spring up. I see no reason why we should give up on a Morrowind wiki just because one already exists.

ShadowJ's concern is valid though: will there be enough people working on the wiki? Can Bunnyburn and a few others carry the whole thing through without relying on other sources all the time?

If the answer is "YES" I say you put your proof of concept together and pass it to Avalith for review.



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Jun 23, 08 at 06:29PM
re: The Elder Scrolls NeoPortal

The almighty Neo-God has spoken!

Indeed, competition shouldn't stop the progress of Neoseeker conquering the internetz, I just don't like when things go "too smoothly" and have to put a downer on it myself

However yes the main worry at the moment has been the main problem throughout this portal. People have stated they are interested then nothing comes of it, I admit I have done the same and life has gotten in the way of things yet again but alas there's only so much the internet can entertain you and so new projects are needed to keep me occupied, although I've had a sudden rise in needing to write reviews more with the possible intent of maybe finding a job within the area...though that's a story for another time.

After work tomorrow I shall start upon rallying the troops



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Jun 25, 08 at 05:39PM
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ShadowJ, you are absolutely right: there are no shortage of people who say how much they will do and when given the task they cannot deliver. That's why I say your concern about whether we can even DO a good wiki is a good one. The nice thing is that if some of us falter along the way, the wiki has the benefit of allowing others to contribute. Portals with their closed system simply didn't have this level of flexibility and reach.

I just like to think we can do something even if someone else is doing it too - assuming we've got the people, the determination, and the will to give it a try



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Jun 25, 08 at 05:46PM
re: The Elder Scrolls NeoPortal

If this Wiki comes through, I will definitely become an active contributor. It is one of my most favorite video game series of all time. It won't be easy though; There are thousands of items, NPCs, dungeons, towns, etc. that we'll have to archive. We can do it though, I know it, we'll expand the Wiki article by article.



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Jun 25, 08 at 07:31PM
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Well in terms of working on this Wiki I am afraid that I will only be available for another 3 weeks Then I am off to travel the globe until February next year. If there is still work ging on after that I will be more than keen to help out.



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Jun 25, 08 at 08:05PM
re: The Elder Scrolls NeoPortal

quote Redemption
ShadowJ, you are absolutely right: there are no shortage of people who say how much they will do and when given the task they cannot deliver. That's why I say your concern about whether we can even DO a good wiki is a good one. The nice thing is that if some of us falter along the way, the wiki has the benefit of allowing others to contribute. Portals with their closed system simply didn't have this level of flexibility and reach.

I just like to think we can do something even if someone else is doing it too - assuming we've got the people, the determination, and the will to give it a try
Well I certainly give hell in the determination section as for the next few months and onward I am aiming to hone my writing, reviewing and research with the aid of Neoseeker. The sudden burst of passion for writing has given me a new insight to game reviewing and pretty much with my part-time contract being solid now I do actually have the time to chase after this achievable dream.

However yes I think with the sudden change to Wiki, it gives everyone that feeling of a safety net behind them, so when they are out of ideas etc. they can step back and let someone else in while they dabble in the background

I assume work to be submitted needs to be in .doc or .rtf format but are there any requirements as to the layout of the work? Such as font style, paragraphing/bullet points....all that jazz? The obvious like spelling, grammar and punctuation I know about but just want to make sure. I like to be thorough with my work



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Jun 25, 08 at 11:38PM
re: The Elder Scrolls NeoPortal

The layout for wiki's can vary, AFAIK. It's all up to the creator of the page. Of course people can edit it and optimize the look of it. Wiki's are easy to edit. I have had no experience with them aside from the neo-wiki's and I already have a decent grasp on how things work.

I'm pretty sure all we would need is a main page. Then we could begin working outward, branching into smaller and smaller categories until we've covered every possible aspect of the game.



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Jun 27, 08 at 06:04PM
re: The Elder Scrolls NeoPortal

I would totally help out with an Elder Scrolls or Oblivion neowiki. I had requested this in the wrong place:

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Most of you have probably heard of the fourth Elder Scrolls game, Oblivion. I have always wondered why it never had a portal. I suppose there was simply too much information to add and not enough people who could do it. Another thing I was pondering is why make an Elder Scrolls wiki? We could concentrate on Oblivion. Hardly anyone plays the older games and most people are only interested in Oblivion. Now that we have converted to wikis there should be more then enough people to work on it. The Oblivion forum is still quite active and I am sure many of the regulars would contribute. Instead of having the entire Elder Scrolls series be the sections, the game could be broken up into the main game, the expansion (shivering isles) and the DLC, (knights of the nine).

To get to the point, I think we should have an Oblivion Wiki. And if its really neccesary to make it an Elder Scrolls wiki, that would work too. We could just concentrate on one game at a time.


If a full blown Elder Scrolls wiki was made, that would be just as good in my book. I would work on the Oblivion section exclusively though because I don't know about morrowind. I have already written a bunch of stuff for a portal if it was ever made and I could just stick that right into the wiki. I wrote guides to all the main quests. I know a lot about this game and would devote a lot of my free time to making this wiki. I would be willing to help ShadowJ with whatever he needs.



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Jun 28, 08 at 09:18AM
re: The Elder Scrolls NeoPortal

If an Elder Scrolls Wiki is created then I will definitely help out with the Oblivion section. I'm playing it right now and I love this game.



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Jun 28, 08 at 11:07PM
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I'll be able to help with both the Morrowind and Oblivion section.



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Jul 03, 08 at 12:39PM
re: The Elder Scrolls NeoPortal

We will be making this Wiki today/tomorrow - the only question in my mind now is whether it will be for Oblivion or all Elder Scrolls.

If only 1 person will ever work on Morrowind we're almost better doing it for Oblivion, but my preference is to cover the series.



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Jul 03, 08 at 12:53PM
re: The Elder Scrolls NeoPortal

Best idea would be to work on Oblivion and then later on add the rest of the series. Many have played just Oblivion, some have played just Morrowind but the majority have played both.

If anything Morrowind and Oblivion are the more known out of the series, so the rest can literally wait until the wiki has enough info to stand by itself. Morrowind, although still played, it's not played by many and the gamers that haven't played it are usually put off due to playing Oblivion first.

It might be best if all those that are interested are rounded up so we can get our heads together. Not sure which is the best way of rounding everyone up since some may not have the IM's used by others.



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Jul 03, 08 at 02:08PM
re: The Elder Scrolls NeoPortal

quote ShadowJ
It might be best if all those that are interested are rounded up so we can get our heads together. Not sure which is the best way of rounding everyone up since some may not have the IM's used by others.
Could we not just use this thread or a thread in the Oblivion forum?



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Jul 03, 08 at 04:12PM
re: The Elder Scrolls NeoPortal

So it would be fine to do an elderscrolls.neo subdomain?



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Jul 03, 08 at 04:34PM
re: The Elder Scrolls NeoPortal

quote NyffTotal90
quote ShadowJ
It might be best if all those that are interested are rounded up so we can get our heads together. Not sure which is the best way of rounding everyone up since some may not have the IM's used by others.
Could we not just use this thread or a thread in the Oblivion forum?
I suppose but would mean making a central thread in the busiest forum and then linking the thread to the other forums (PC forum I can stick it in the forum header but one of the section or super mods will have to do the PS3 forum for me)



quote Redemption
So it would be fine to do an elderscrolls.neo subdomain?
Aye it should be. As I said, Arena, Daggerfall, Redguard and Battlespire are less known than Morrowind and Oblivion. Redguard and Battlespire especially since they are spin-offs from the series and can be left till last. Arena was the first but also the least known in the series with Daggerfall not following too far behind.

Even I don't know much about the above as I came to the series when Morrowind was released, I have played the demo of Daggerfall but that's all.

I still need to read up on Neowiki "how to" forum on how it all works (I have the basics in otherwords but I like to be thorough ) but from observing the community as moderator and the general traffic/attitude of those on the internet, it would be in Neo's best interest to concentrate solely on Oblivion and Morrowind, then fill in the blanks later on upon the Elder Scrolls.

In short: yes it would be fine but then again this is only my opinion and there are and will be other voices on this project....I hope



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