Bill is obviously part of the family, but how? It never told you about who was his mother or grandmother....but....there was something that intrigued me.

Near the end when Richard could see D, D said to him 'Stop....you'll make Franny cry.'

Now when saying that, do you think he said that because she may have been his grandmother....I'm mean she'd been very old now if she was the same age as D or about the same age.

Any opinions or comments on that?

This message was edited by Homunculus Lover on Jan 11 2006.

for a start the guy with the glasses is called richard the other guy, the one that dies at the end is Bill, Bill Edward.

And yeah I think franny is bill's grandmother, at first i was thinking she was his mother but then i recall D saying he'd been dead for about 57 years or something and if franny and D were children at around the same time then that would mean Bill would have to be about 60 years old.

Bloody hell. I'm sorry for the one mistake. My god, I ask a question and someone starts moaning to me because I made a mistake. I'm not perfect and neither are you.

But I guess it's basically the same thought I had. Some discussion that was.

frannie is his mother...i think.

She would have been a bit of an old mother of Bill wouldn't you say? D had been dead over 57 years....add that to the estimate age Franny is which would probably be something like I don't know 8...to 10...she would have been by that time 65 to 67 years of age. Highly doubtful it was his mother...but saying that it could have been, Some people have children when they a bit older, so it could have been his mother. From the looks of it, Bill is in his hmmm...late 20's to mid 30's. It could be possible, but I'm doubting it's his mother.

Ya, Frannie is Bills mother. I read somewhere(I tell you when I find it again) that Frannie had Bill.

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(I tell you when I find it again)

Oh YAY! Could you, it would mean so much. Though I still feel it would make more sense her being his grandmother.....unless he's older than I think.

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quote perea

(I tell you when I find it again)

Oh YAY! Could you, it would mean so much. Though I still feel it would make more sense her being his grandmother.....unless he's older than I think.

Hmmm... Personaly I think Franny is is mom, since it seems more logical. If Franny was around the age of, I'd think, 10 maybe 11? And 57 years pass Franny would be 67 maybe 70 years old. From what Bill looks like, he looks to be a bit old, maybe 35-40 years old. I had more on my mind.. but I kinda lost it x.x;; (Grrr I hate being sidetracked..)

So that's how I see it All mathematical and science...ical? (lol)

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Ack, this whole topic got me thinking and I've been making so many calculations on Bill and Franny's age and I think I hit the right one!! I think Bill is 34 years old. But since they'll never get into the information anywhere we'll never know. But I've done a lot of work so I think that 34 is closer then 40 years old. I have the info all saved and I'll post it if anyone wants to see the quick final sum of what I calculated for Franny and Bill's age's. (I love numbers )

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I think I edit to much.. hmm well I have another theory!! lol. If you remember when D scares Bill and says something along the lines of: Your making Franny cry(I only have access to the English ver. sadly)
maybe Franny's dead, Even though that doesn't go along with this really, but its a though I had to say It makes seance, how else would he know Franny's crying?

This message was edited by HarvestMoonGirl15 on Jan 20 2006.

This message was edited by HarvestMoonGirl15 on Jan 20 2006.

i think bill is frannie's son bcuz bill can't b in his twenties cuz the father richard must b in his 40's or somthin cuz unless sayoko got pregnant early he wouldn't have a 13-14 year old daughter.so assuming that bill and richard r around the same age i'd say thaat waz frannies son who fell off a cliff.

omg i remembr now! in one of the dts cards it says that bill inherited the mansion from his mom

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i think bill is frannie's son bcuz bill can't b in his twenties cuz the father richard must b in his 40's or somthin cuz unless sayoko got pregnant early he wouldn't have a 13-14 year old daughter.so assuming that bill and richard r around the same age i'd say thaat waz frannies son who fell off a cliff.

either way regardless d wouldnt have known any thing that happened of the island so personally its a bit...strange...Hmmm