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goldensteelix Neo: Essential since: Dec 2002	Mar 16, 05 at 3:00am ^ re: NFL Offseason Discussion II (2005)
	Log in to remove this sponsored message quote Slik I really don't think Manning has studied the 3-4. He could even score a TD on a depleted secondary.[/size] Again its the Patriots, not many people can throw on them. Assuming you are talking about the AFC Championship game, if I remember correctly James had somewhere around 35 yards rushing. If you stop the ground game then the passing game is going to become harder. Manning: 27/42 for 238yds and 1INT. Those stats aren't that bad. quote Slik Edit: i THINK THEY GAVE UP No I just have other things to do then to come back and listen to someone pretty much call Manning overated. I never said I knew everything about football , just that it is my passion. 3/6 teams isn't bad either. Tebucky Jones signs with the Dolphins. Travis Taylor signs with Vikings. ------------------- You don't see just how wild the crowd is? You don't see just how fly my style is?
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Slik Still Seekin' total posts: 3378 since: Apr 2004	Mar 16, 05 at 3:28am ^ re: NFL Offseason Discussion II (2005)
	quote M_N_M48060 Slik what the hell are you talking about Atlanta is your team suddenly? After backing the Patriots all last season. You are a bandwagoner almost as bad as I am Steely Phil. As for Vick, he is the one that is overated. Sure he can run, and can throw far, but he is not very accurate. Also some of the decisions he makes while in the pocket are just plain stupid. It's funny that you say Indy is soft, but they beat Detroit by 30 points, what happened when Atlanta played Detroit. Oh yeah Detroit won 17-10. Lions in the superbowl next year. I'm definately not a bandwagoner. Jesus listen, you can root for more than 1 team. It doesn't matter. I live in New England. But you're so caught up in being an idiot that you think I can only root for one team. Atlanta is one of my boys. Wow, I have to get technical. There are about 5-7 teams I root for unless they play my home team. Do you know how boring it would be just making avys and bans of just one team? Oh I forgot, most of you guys can't even use photoshop. It's called being creative. That's why there are a ton of biased people here. They have information about opposing teams at all except for, "the lions are gonna win because a' Joey Harrington" The Falcons are one of the teams that can actually tackle. Notice I'm talking about defense. Remember what Baltimore did to Indy? Manning didn't know what to do. Baltimore lost cause they had no off.. But if you didn't know, the 3-4 is a confuse defense. Something that is very hard to crack unless you are Tom Brady. I can seriously bust out a long ass post.(Can do it) It'll be so truthful your head would spin. This message was edited by Slik on Mar 15 2005. This message was edited by Slik on Mar 15 2005.
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Cdemon Dr. Paul is Gay Neolife since: Jul 2001	Mar 16, 05 at 4:46am ^ re: NFL Offseason Discussion II (2005)
	quote Slik 3-4 teams last season I thought you knew everything about football? Texans Raiders Steelers Ravens Patriots Chargers Don't forget Dallas and Buffalo... quote Slik That's why there are a ton of biased people here.... the 3-4 is a confuse defense. Something that is very hard to crack unless you are Tom Brady. Nice one. I guess his solution is to throw 20 5-yard passes? Hmmm.. And didn't Manning pick apart their defense during the first game of the season? And what about Marc Bulger? He was pretty successful against the Pats. This message was edited by Cdemon on Mar 15 2005.
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Slik Still Seekin' total posts: 3378 since: Apr 2004	Mar 16, 05 at 11:38am ^ re: NFL Offseason Discussion II (2005)
	Oh wow Bulger with three scores. Manning didn't pick apart the Patirot def. He was still confused. The Colts just went with pass-run game plan. Dallas and Buffalo? They ran 4-3 and switched with 3-4 during games. The 3-4 wasn't base though. 5 yrad passes? They frickin work. Especially when you are the most versatile team in the league. It's called throwing to Patrick Pass. It's called clock control. Better than frickin airing deep balls all game long and getting picked off. Plus the Pats would know their own D. This message was edited by Slik on Mar 16 2005.
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goldensteelix Neo: Essential since: Dec 2002	Mar 16, 05 at 5:38pm ^ re: NFL Offseason Discussion II (2005)
	Just to clear up something Buffalo didn't run the 3-4 for the games. They did switch up throwing Marrio Haggan and Angelo Crowell into the game, but they were mainly a 4-3 team. With the lose of Pat Williams we will most likely revert to the 3-4, but the odds are still 50/50. It was the Outs, Ins, Curls, Screens, Slants and Stops that resulted in these short yardage completions, not outlet guys such as Patrick Pass. The Patriots gameplan is game clock control. Short Passes are part of their strategy. Bengals sign Rudi Johnson to a 5yr 26M contract. ------------------- You don't see just how wild the crowd is? You don't see just how fly my style is?
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Cdemon Dr. Paul is Gay Neolife since: Jul 2001	Mar 16, 05 at 7:32pm ^ re: NFL Offseason Discussion II (2005)
	Slik, do us all a favor and don't post your opinions in this thread anymore. I mean seriously, it's pretty hard for me not to comment on your ignorance. Every team has a gameplan. The Rams offense is fast and furious. We throw the ball down-field a lot... why? Because WE HAVE VERY TALENTED WIDE-OUTS! Throwing Holt, Bruce and Curtis five yard passes would be stupid. And our defense isn't strong, so it's up to the offense to put a bunch of points on the board. Passing = quicker way of scoring. quote ESPN.com The St. Louis Rams reached a seven-year, $52.8 million deal with franchise left tackle Orlando Pace Wednesday that ended three years of efforts to get him to agree to the long-term contract. The seven-year, $52.8 million contract is slightly more than Seattle Seahawks left tackle Walter Jones earns. The payout is $22 million in the first two years and $26 million in the first three years. Only Baltimore Ravens left tackle Jonathan Ogden makes more than Pace and Jones at that position. OH HELL YEAH BABY! EDIT: Oh yeah, I also heard that Kyle Turley has gotten his weight from 240/250 (when he & Martz exchanged words) to 270. This means that he might be able to play next season! This message was edited by Cdemon on Mar 16 2005.
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Slik Still Seekin' total posts: 3378 since: Apr 2004	Mar 16, 05 at 10:48pm ^ re: NFL Offseason Discussion II (2005)
	Thats the thing. The def. isn't good. Shooting up the field is friggin sloppy. Quick scoring. Now guess what? A crap load of time on the clock. Now what? The other team runs the clock on out on you. Just because you have good recievers doesn't mean you can constantly air the ball. That gameplan sounds like one my little cousin could make up. They especially won't be able to do that as much this coming season. NFC teams are getting 3-4s. Bad news for Bulger. Bulger did not pick apart NE's D. They just aired the ball and got lucky they weren't picked off. Just because you have good recievers doesn't mean you can The Rams CAN contorl the clock. I learned that from editing teams in 2k5. I tried it and got picked of by Samari Rolle and Chris McAllister for a totally of 7 times. But I won by controlling the clock with the running game.(Domanick Davis all the way) All in all, Martz is sloppy arrogrant, a terrible clock manager(deals management worse than the Eagles did in the SB) And tires out his sucky defense. What he SHOULD be doing is running/dumping/screening to Faulk, Jackson and Curtis, and then throw the unexcepted bomb. But no, he wants an intercepting. That's why the Rams lost to the Cardinals. This makes the defense weary from all game action. This message was edited by Slik on Mar 16 2005. This message was edited by Slik on Mar 16 2005.
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Mr Matthews moderator Sports total posts: 13938 since: Jun 2002	Mar 16, 05 at 11:32pm ^ re: NFL Offseason Discussion II (2005)
	quote I Am Steely Phil The Rams did beat the Eagles. As simple as that. The Eagles practice squad you mean. I also disagree that the Rams are the most improved team. Of course thats your view as a Rams fan so its biased but I disagree. I'd say the Vikings are way ahead of the Rams. Also, the Panthers have done a lot as well. No one is talking about them. I have the Vikings and Panthers as my #1 and #2 most improved teams. This message was edited by Bamman48 on Mar 16 2005. ------------------- 1, 2, 3, 4
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Cdemon Dr. Paul is Gay Neolife since: Jul 2001	Mar 16, 05 at 11:54pm ^ re: NFL Offseason Discussion II (2005)
	quote Bamman48 The Eagles practice squad you mean. Our offense sure as hell tore up their defense on our first drive. What was it, eighty yards in nine plays? Anyways, Slik, you base your opinion/prediction/statements of a real NFL team on the performance of that same team in a video game? Dude... And the Rams have improved a lot. We pretty much got our defense set. We just signed Pace to a 7-year deal and Turley could be back for the season.
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goldensteelix Neo: Essential since: Dec 2002	Mar 17, 05 at 2:50am ^ re: NFL Offseason Discussion II (2005)
	I still stick to it that the Vikings are the most improved team in the NFC. The Rams and Panthers come in for a second but the Vikings are untouchable without a blockbuster trade/signing going down for either the Rams or Panthers. quote That gameplan sounds like one my little cousin could make up. Then you're little cousin should be a NFL Coach. Last I checked the Rams went to the Super Bowl but a few years back and won it all with that kind of strategy. ------------------- You don't see just how wild the crowd is? You don't see just how fly my style is?
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Mr Matthews moderator Sports total posts: 13938 since: Jun 2002	Mar 17, 05 at 3:36am ^ re: NFL Offseason Discussion II (2005)
	quote Cdemon quote Bamman48 The Eagles practice squad you mean. Our offense sure as hell tore up their defense on our first drive. What was it, eighty yards in nine plays? They sat most of their defensive starters for most of the game. Trotter, Vincent, Dawkins, Sheppard all played one quarter's worth of minutes if that. ------------------- 1, 2, 3, 4
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Slik Still Seekin' total posts: 3378 since: Apr 2004	Mar 17, 05 at 3:39am ^ re: NFL Offseason Discussion II (2005)
	quote Anyways, Slik, you base your opinion/prediction/statements of a real NFL team on the performance of that same team in a video game? Dude... I don't base my opinions on 2K5. But this is true. If you're gonna lob the ball up you're asking for an intercepting. Andre Johnson was killed.... About the Tennesee SB. Please don't remind me on that. That was the saddest NFL moment ever. Jeff Fisher was smoking the shit you just don't smoke. Throw it to frikkin Dyson...IT"S CALLED PASS TO EDDIE GEORGE. And you've reminded me of that SB in 2001 one. The sad thing was the Rams had about 350 off. yards and the Pats about 160. And guess who won, the Pats. Throw it all you want. But eventually you're gonna get soft. Throw it all you want, but you're gonna get picked off. A ton of people here are biased. As I said before the main reason why I get out there and root for other teams is to avoid bias.
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D Wade XBL: RotaryP7 high on "N" total posts: 772 since: Jan 2005	Mar 17, 05 at 3:44am ^ re: NFL Offseason Discussion II (2005)
	quote goldensteelix I still stick to it that the Vikings are the most improved team in the NFC. The Rams and Panthers come in for a second but the Vikings are untouchable without a blockbuster trade/signing going down for either the Rams or Panthers. Heh, what about the Cowboys? Don't they get at least some attention for next season? ..I guess not.. To tell you the truth.. Mostly nobody likes Dallas. I don't really know why they are still called "America's Team" Anywho, I heard from ESPN that the Cowboys were interested in Ty Law, which I believe would be highly impossible for Dallas to sign him. The Cowboys already signed a free agent CB, Anthony Henry from the Browns. Which had 85 tackles & 4 INTs last season. "Cowboys weren't 3-4 last season, next year it's a possible change" (CDemon)
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Slik Still Seekin' total posts: 3378 since: Apr 2004	Mar 17, 05 at 3:48am ^ re: NFL Offseason Discussion II (2005)
	I like Dallas. They need to change their away Jerseys though. They suck ass. Especially switching to the 3-4, The Boys will probably go 10-6 or 9-7. If they're 11-5 they are going all the way
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hn2000_80 No, no, no, oh wait! Yes , yes, yes threadnought total posts: 679 since: Feb 2002	Mar 17, 05 at 5:18am ^ re: NFL Offseason Discussion II (2005)
	So, if the Vikings go 10-6 next season, will you guys still consider them as the most improved team in the NFC? Seriously, that's how I think the Viking's record next season will be. Yes, the Vikings have made a lot of noise in this off season, however, they still have one of the most stupid headcoaches (Mike Tice) in the NFL. They could have easily beaten out the Packers and the rest of NFC north division in the last two years, but they didn't, because, they always found a way to choke at the end of regular season. Their best record since Mike Tice became their HC is 8-8. Ouch. Therefore, as long as Mike Tice will be a HC for that team and B. Favre is our QB, I still think the Packers still have a great chance to win this division again.
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