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goldensteelix
Sep 15, 08 at 8:11pm
Boxing

quote Ragingbull88
quote negative_creep
quote Balabadoo
The fight is a bigger joke than Pacquiao vs Hatton

De La Hoya will destroy him
Agreed I mean technically speaking Pac will make weight just not effectively b/c he just does not have a welter's body. I said it before and Ill say it again Pac began fighting at 108lbs. oSCARED,of Antonio Margarito, and anyone supporting him needs to be ashamed of themselves for trying to pass this off as a legitimate and evenly matched competitive fight. There is no need for this what did 112lbs female German boxing legend Regina Halmich refuse to come out of retirement to fight oSCARED. Hopefully Manny can pull a Shane and move up 12 more pounds to beat and retire dela joto like the overrated bully he is.
At the risk of sounding childish. I noticed raging fool or raging bull$h!t has yet to reply to my response to him I guess He is still trying to make sense of all the nonsense this "uneducated wannabe boxing afficianado" posted. Wheather it is in person or online i enjoy putting faux boxing experts in their place Any ways lets talk real boxing how about Juan Manuel Marquez last night moving up to a feesable weight and becoming the first man to stop joel caca oops I mean casamayor and for the guy who wants advice on boxing equipment if you're a power puncher you definitly want REYES gloves but if you want to keep your hands safe use WINNING gloves thats about all the advise I can provide on equip

This message was edited by negative_creep on Sep 14 2008.
i never replied because i was away greiving for the death of my brother paddy you bastard!!!!





So, Iy's Different. Manny walk around FIT at 10 st odd. And don't forget, it's big money, and Oscar will struggle to make weight also.







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The Pear of Lolwut
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Sep 16, 08 at 10:34pm
re: Boxing

Ragingbull, putting "as I said" isn't a valid post, you actually have to contribute, you know.

Anyway, I thought I'd come here to talk a bit about Malignaggi and Hatton. In recent news Hatton no-show'd a press conference due to sickness, ironically he did the same thing on his last one with Mayweather. I don't think its fear or anything, I just think he's still refusing to get into shape and won't train properly. He keeps going on piss ups and isn't eating right, he just won't learn. As time goes on he can't take the damage he used to be able to. I mean, I was watching the Tszyu fight the other day for the first time and this was supposed to be his best fight and he was still getting hit quite a lot. I'll admit Hatton has a real good chin but the fact is he can't keep taking this stuff as he gets on. Lazcano's only known as a Lightweight and he was troubling the man. I know Malignaggi isn't a power puncher but he's still troubled Lovemore enough to put him down plus he's wobbled Cotto so he isn't exactly a feather-hitter. The fact is Malignaggi can take a punch and his defence is brilliant so if he can take Hatton's pressure he damn sure well might have a chance at defeating him. If Hatton loses by T/KO he can kiss his career goodbye and Malignaggi can welcome his more mainstream one but I wouldn't count Malignaggi out of a decision, the guy's combo's are brilliant and if he's really focused he can do a good job. I put some of the blame of Malignaggi's last match down to trying to impress way too much, same for Witter and same for Khan. Witter was too urgent to get Hatton, Khan was too urgent to display too much and Malignaggi was too urgent to show off. I'm not putting those excuses down to Witter & Khan's losses, I just think they add to them.

Without the constant bickering, I'd say this place is a lot better than other boxing forums I've been to.
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Sep 18, 08 at 7:12pm
re: Boxing

Alright, first of all... knobface? What are you, eleven trying to make yourself look hard? Learn the rules my friend, you were spammıng, don't lash out because someone isnt afraıd to tell you you were. Its nothing to do with 'carryıng on the conversation' because the first post already had your last one quoted.

Anyway, as I said I didn't claim the only reason was because of those I stated, I said that they CONTRIBUTED to their defeat. And you can't try too hard? Of course you can... you can be too eager to get the knockout, you can be too eager to get insıde or you may just be gettıng too frustrated and because of it you fight their fıght. And Malignaggi performed bad because of his hand? Please tell me you're joking, you do know he broke it WHILST fightıng and throughout the match he was getting caught because of the extensions and being distracted? Right? God, its like you don't know anything about this at all.

I await another flame.
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Sep 18, 08 at 10:16pm
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So sorry I annoy you, my friend, I had no idea it was my duty to come here to appease you. Your amateur career means nothing to me and obviously if you were any sort of boxer you'd realise you can try too hard, as I've already said. I'm not talking about if Witter or Malignaggi were too eager, the fact has stood with boxer upon boxer if they were too eager, many were. I'm not blaming Witter 100% for his loss over being too eager, I'm just displaying that you can try too hard. I believe after looking like a complete twat for so many rounds Malignaggi wanted to impress and show the British crowd he had something so he was taking more shots to throw more back at Lovemore, its common sense really. Its just how you say you can never try too hard is just silly, of course you can.

I don't put Khan's sparking out down to an accident, sure you can say certain things add to the knockout like his nerves, his eagerness to impress and generally his chin but I don't think he would have beaten Prescott anyway, but I strongly believe if he'd kept his head and not went right in he would of at least made the distance.
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Sep 19, 08 at 10:58am
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Firstly ragingbull, i once saw a post by you in the not too distant past claiming to be 12 years old. Now, to have had 34 fights by the time you were 12 in the UK is quite remarkable, yet a simple search for your name and the results of any amateur fights you have had brings up 0 results. You also once called me a name using GEORDIE slang, which i believe is newcastle in england, coming from the harsh ghetto of Estonia though i cannot be certain. But now on your profile you come from Ireland?

Secondly, of course you can try too hard in a fight, Ricky Hatton vs Mayweather was a prime example. Mayweather clearly got to Hatton in the build up to the fight, although ricky will tell you otherwise. See the weigh in, Hatton looks like a man on speed, clearly too pumped up and eager to knock mayweather out. This caused him to abandon all the boxing skill he has, notably his defence, and go for an all action approach which is not what you need to beat floyd mayweather. The Pear of Lolwut, despite having an extremely questionable name, actually talks some sense which makes this thread rather refreshing after all the nonsensical ramblings posted by the likes of ragingbull88 and others in previous threads.



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Sep 19, 08 at 5:43pm
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Your from Estonia???


I live in Ireland currently. My Dad has moved there and i am staying with him for a while.

What did you put in as my name? I am 13, been training since i was 5, fighting since i was 9.

I am definetly not the best in the world. Easy to hit, mainly, went 3-4-0 in my first 7 fights.

Check again.


Well, as far as i am concerned, you can't put to much effort in.


I would just like it if you didn't report me on your first post.
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Sep 20, 08 at 1:06am
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If it's an honest effort and your doing your best and refuse to quite then no you can't try too hard. But what I think they're saying is going into a fight with one thing on your mind and abonding everything that got you to the dance all for the sake of being a more crowdpleasing fighter, when that's not particulary your style, or trying to go for the KO and you forget about your defense.
Ragngbull I am sorry I did not know about you situation had I I would not have said such a boneheaded thing.
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Sep 20, 08 at 9:35am
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tushay [or however you spel it]


it's ok negative creep.
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Sep 20, 08 at 8:04pm
re: Boxing

quote Ragingbull88
I would just like it if you didn't report me on your first post.
I can't, I wouldn't and I didn't.

At the latest news, not at all surprised about Khan's split with Rubio.
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Sep 21, 08 at 2:17pm
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But do you agree with it?


Rubio did his job, but Khan underestimated i big puncher.

As for khans record, he has fought SOME of the best in Britain but not the best. But there are some none punchers in there, like:


Jackson Williams 12-4-0 (0)
Rachis Drizlane 15-5-0 (1)
Mohammed Medjadji 19-6-0 (3)
Stefy Bull 25-5-1 (5)


But he has fought some good fighters, such as Stefy Bull:

Willie Limond 29-2-0 (8)
Scott Lawton 24-4-1 (4)
Graham Earl 25-3-0 (12)
Gairy St Clair 40-7-2 (17)
Martin Kristjansen 20-2-3 (6)
Michael Gomez 35-9-0 (24)
Breidid Prescott 20-0-0 (18)


Kristjensen was super slick, Limond fast, Gomez a brawler, St Clair former World Champion, Earl a rock chinned brawler when he wants to be, Lawton tall neat boxer, Prescott a banger.
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Sep 21, 08 at 2:18pm
re: Boxing

quote The Pear of Lolwut
quote Ragingbull88
I would just like it if you didn't report me on your first post.
I can't, I wouldn't and I didn't.

At the latest news, not at all surprised about Khan's split with Rubio.

Well how come its in the modeation que?
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Sep 28, 08 at 2:48pm
re: Boxing

They don't get much closer than this-Shane Mosley KO'd Roberto Mayorga last night at 2:59 of round 12. Stopped him in the final second of the fight. Had Mayorga been saved by the bell, Mosley would've taken a split decision, the judges who had him winning had his margin at 1 & 5 points, respectively. The other judge had Mayorga by 1 point.


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Sep 28, 08 at 9:53pm
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I'm backing up my boy Berto. I've said it before that he's up and coming. Love the kid. Florida's own. The kid has some serious speed on that left of his. But I'm going to leave it at that.

Last night's Mayorga and Mosley fight was complete garbage. Only bright spot was the 12th. Other than that, it was one of the sloppiest fight I've seen yet.

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Sep 28, 08 at 11:47pm
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I used to like Mosley years ago...I haven't seen his recent stuff.



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Sep 28, 08 at 11:50pm
re: Boxing

How the hell did one of the judges have Mayorga winning that fight last night? He was getting completely obliterated during the middle rounds. Mosley connected on 3x as many punches. The winner was clear.

I agree it was a sloppy fight, but thats mainly due to Mayorga being not very skilled. You're right though, deeplove. Ending definitely saved the fight (to a degree). Mayorga was surviving some wicked punches though.
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