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Final Blade True Addiction total posts: 18558 since: Nov 2006	Feb 05, 08 at 3:27am ^ re: Post Here if you think the Patriots are the BIGGEST CHOKERS EVER
	Log in to remove this sponsored message quote goldensteelix Oh and finalblade98, that TD to Burress had nothing to do with Eli. N-o-t-h-i-n-g. It was due to Ellis Hobbs. A child could have thrown that ball to Burress. Eli managed the game, and had the football gods on his side. He simply couldn't screw up. LOL that proves how little you know, Eli and Burress has been practicing that same move, game winning TD all week before the game. Thats why it was so easy, ELI had EVERYTHING to do with the TD. Im not going to lie and say Ellis hobbs didn't contribute to a easy catch, but seriously it was a perfect pass by the man himself, ELi. Burress would have caught the ball even if hobbs was around him. quote Moonrise Ha...hahaha. Eli made one excellent play the whole game and the rest was simple management. Even the best play he made was only possible because his receiver made an incredible catch, so please stop acting like he actually deserved the MVP award. Really, it just isn't true. LOL Wow just shows you how little you know about the title MVP. You don't get that title for one game, you get it for the whole Post season. And Eli was the one who brought them in the promise land, your defense is only as good as your offense(vice versa). Sure Eli didn't have a great game 19/34, 255 Passing Yards. But if you look at Brady's, Eli had better stats and thats true. He was 29/48 attempts, 266 passing yards. Now yeah Eli did had less in yards but he had better rating, Eli had a 87.3, while Brady 82.5. And lets be serious, Eli lives for the 2 minute drives unlike his brother, which is why he's better than him in that regard. Anyone who thinks that Eli didn't deserve the MVP title after scoring a touchdown in 2 mins after the patriots scoring a touch down in a 7 minute drive then your crazy. Sorry but Eli deserves the MVP status, Most Valuable Player, Tyrie was the hero but not the MVP. That i will agree with. As a matter of fact, I take Boss over Tyrie any day since before that 40 yard reception, the Giants had nothing going for them. That play started the touchdown imo. quote sort 18-0 and can't win the Super Bowl lolololroflulolol. My place went crazy last night. Most of the people at my house all were Ole Miss alumni so needless to say we all went b-a-n-a-n-a-s. Greatest team ever? Hardly! No one cares if you win 18 straight if you can't cap it off with a Super Bowl win. Now it doesn't matter how many points they scored this season or how many touchdowns Brady threw during the year or how many TD's Moss caught to set a record. If they were the best team in history, they wouldn't have lost a game, much less the Super Bowl. ROFL Patriots. QFT!!!! Sort i know we haven't agreed on anything in the past but this i cold heartedly Agree with you. Just cause your undefeated in the regular season doesn't mean your going to win or go into the super bowl. If anyone remember how awesome the Colts were last season they could have been undefeated last season as well, But both Tony Dungy and Payton being the smart coach and quarter back decided its best to rest players knowing they're in the playoff rather on getting that 16-0 record. Cause they wanted To win the big game, THE SUPERBOWL. Now yeah Tom Coughlin(i think thats how you spell it) didn't want to rest players , for whatever reason, they just wanted the title. Patriots didn't feel like they wanted the title more. At the end of the day i would rather lose 1 game or two then go undefeated and win the Superbowl. Thats why i knew the pats wasn't going to win, and thats why i chose the giants. Don't care what their record was this year they were nothing, and the 72 dolphins are still better than them any day of the week. This message was edited by finalblade98 on Feb 04 2008. ------------------- _{Welcome to Bad Company 2}
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YuanShiao45 kinda back on neo Resident Neo total posts: 2643 since: Nov 2003	Feb 05, 08 at 4:08am ^ re: Post Here if you think the Patriots are the BIGGEST CHOKERS EVER
	quote YuanShiao45 quote YuanShiao45 quote M_N_M48060 No, the rest of them played well and the other teams played poorly. If you think Eli played well you are either a tool to the media hype or have no clue what you are talking about. I can see one big team playing poorly BUT when its BUCS THEN DALLAS THEN GREEN BAY Theres proof right there that it isn't just luck. I would also like to know IF the Giants win the SB and beat the Pats. What would you say then? "Ohhh ....well they were lucky.....uhhh....the Patriots didn't give it there all" Really I want to know what would you say if this occurs. Now I don't want anyone to say that they won't reply because it will never happen...NO! What would you say if it occurs... Does I told ya so work? CONGRATS TO THE GIANTS! Brady's biggest fear is the name "Manning", Peyton and Eli can both beat him with there teams.
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YuanShiao45 kinda back on neo Resident Neo total posts: 2643 since: Nov 2003	Feb 05, 08 at 4:09am ^ re: Post Here if you think the Patriots are the BIGGEST CHOKERS EVER
	ROMO, FAVRE, and then Brady with his "elite" team. Nice. GRATS GIANTS!
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YuanShiao45 kinda back on neo Resident Neo total posts: 2643 since: Nov 2003	Feb 05, 08 at 4:11am ^ re: Post Here if you think the Patriots are the BIGGEST CHOKERS EVER
	A victory is a victory, get over it you sore losers who are Pats fans! I don't care if its by two points or one, simple as that. Be more like Moss and respect what the Giants have done as a team, as a wild card team, as CHAMPIONS.
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Silent Storm Remember, No Russian Two much Neo since: Aug 2007	Feb 05, 08 at 4:22am ^ re: Post Here if you think the Patriots are the BIGGEST CHOKERS EVER
	quote finalblade98 Don't care what their record was this year they were nothing, and the 72 dolphins are still better than them any day of the week. Kid, you weren't even alive in 72, so this coming from you doesn't make much sense. It's funny how everyone calls Pats fans "bandwagon fans", but everyone that found out probably this year that the Dolphins had a record, suddenly thinks that they can shout "Dolphins baby!" and look cool. Please. quote finalblade98 QFT!!!! Sort i know we haven't agreed on anything in the past but this i cold heartedly Agree with you. Just cause your undefeated in the regular season doesn't mean your going to win or go into the super bowl. If anyone remember how awesome the Colts were last season they could have been undefeated last season as well, But both Tony Dungy and Payton being the smart coach and quarter back decided its best to rest players knowing they're in the playoff rather on getting that 16-0 record. Cause they wanted To win the big game, THE SUPERBOWL. Now yeah Tom Coughlin(i think thats how you spell it) didn't want to rest players , for whatever reason, they just wanted the title. Patriots didn't feel like they wanted the title more. At the end of the day i would rather lose 1 game or two then go undefeated and win the Superbowl. Thats why i knew the pats wasn't going to win, and thats why i chose the giants. Lol! It makes so much sense now! The Colts intentionally lost their games because they knew that if they did, they'll win the Superbowl! That's probably what Miami was trying to do too! ------------------- Gamertag: StefDelev
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NightmareX Hooked on Neo since: Sep 2003	Feb 05, 08 at 4:26am ^ re: Post Here if you think the Patriots are the BIGGEST CHOKERS EVER
	quote finalblade98 But both Tony Dungy and Payton being the smart coach and quarter back decided its best to rest players knowing they're in the playoff rather on getting that 16-0 record. WTF are you talking about? The first game the Colts lost last year was in Week 11. Why would they rest their players for 6 weeks? -------------------
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Moonrise Neolithic since: May 2007	Feb 05, 08 at 5:05am ^ re: Post Here if you think the Patriots are the BIGGEST CHOKERS EVER
	quote finalblade98 incomprehensible bullshit You know nothing about football. Seriously, get the hell out of here before people actually start to believe this crap you're spouting. The play to Burress could have been performed by a jv high school quarterback, the Super Bowl MVP is just that; the MVP of the Super Bowl. Eli played well throughout the playoffs but wasn't the MVP by any means. Like I said, their defense was the reason they won. ------------------- Type-MOON
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Final Blade True Addiction total posts: 18558 since: Nov 2006	Feb 05, 08 at 7:32am ^ re: Post Here if you think the Patriots are the BIGGEST CHOKERS EVER
	quote Silent Storm quote finalblade98 Don't care what their record was this year they were nothing, and the 72 dolphins are still better than them any day of the week. Kid, you weren't even alive in 72, so this coming from you doesn't make much sense. It's funny how everyone calls Pats fans "bandwagon fans", but everyone that found out probably this year that the Dolphins had a record, suddenly thinks that they can shout "Dolphins baby!" and look cool. Please. quote finalblade98 QFT!!!! Sort i know we haven't agreed on anything in the past but this i cold heartedly Agree with you. Just cause your undefeated in the regular season doesn't mean your going to win or go into the super bowl. If anyone remember how awesome the Colts were last season they could have been undefeated last season as well, But both Tony Dungy and Payton being the smart coach and quarter back decided its best to rest players knowing they're in the playoff rather on getting that 16-0 record. Cause they wanted To win the big game, THE SUPERBOWL. Now yeah Tom Coughlin(i think thats how you spell it) didn't want to rest players , for whatever reason, they just wanted the title. Patriots didn't feel like they wanted the title more. At the end of the day i would rather lose 1 game or two then go undefeated and win the Superbowl. Thats why i knew the pats wasn't going to win, and thats why i chose the giants. Lol! It makes so much sense now! The Colts intentionally lost their games because they knew that if they did, they'll win the Superbowl! That's probably what Miami was trying to do too! I don't have to be alive back then to know how awesome of a team they were. I watched the incredible stuff they pulled out. They are better than the pats. Once again you fail to read my post, they understood resting players for the Playoffs and a chance to be healthy to with the superbowl meant everything to them then trying to go undefeated, and doing what the 72 dolphins did. Thats what i said. Pats wanted to be undefeated and make history instead of trying to win a superbowl, i think thats what ultimately killed them at the end besides the giants. The whole team was worn out for playing way to many games. Rest means everything especially when it comes to playoff action. Any sports team know this, its simple strategy. quote NightmareX WTF are you talking about? The first game the Colts lost last year was in Week 11. Why would they rest their players for 6 weeks? I never said they rested their players for 6 weeks. They already clinched Playoff berth, by that game they were 10-0, instead of trying to go undefeated, they felt the need to rest players knowing we are in no need to get people injured people the playoffs, a chance to win the big game. Thats my point which people are failing to see. It doesn't matter what your record is, if you don't win the big game, it means absolute shit. quote Moonrise You know nothing about football. Seriously, get the hell out of here before people actually start to believe this crap you're spouting. The play to Burress could have been performed by a jv high school quarterback, the Super Bowl MVP is just that; the MVP of the Super Bowl. Eli played well throughout the playoffs but wasn't the MVP by any means. Like I said, their defense was the reason they won. Again it helped them 2 fold that they were practicing that same play the whole week before the big game. "by a jv high school quarterback" thats assuming, he can make the plays Eli did with 2:35 second left in the fourth without being nervous. The catch wasn't the point, Moonrise, Eli passed the ball to him at 30 seconds left thats the point. He made that play happen. And he lives for the 2 minute drives, he is at his best at that time, we saw this against the Cowboys as well. Any other QB that you could mention might not be able to pull it off, even Eli's brother can't handle that, anyone knows that. Brady most likely, but no one else. But like i also stated that you seem to ignore. quote finalblade98 And Eli was the one who brought them in the promise land, your defense is only as good as your offense(vice versa). And the Quarter back is the centerfold, the Captain, the leader of the team, if he doesn't perform well, it doesn't matter how good the defense is at any time during the game. Thats why he is the MVP, and this reason too quote Anyone who thinks that Eli didn't deserve the MVP title after scoring a touchdown in 2 mins after the patriots scoring a touch down in a 7 minute drive then your crazy ------------------- _{Welcome to Bad Company 2}
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RyanMcBainDOTcom newseeker total posts: 17 since: Jan 2008	Feb 05, 08 at 9:15am ^ OWNED!!
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Eaz105 forum fever total posts: 352 since: Apr 2007	Feb 05, 08 at 11:32am ^ re: Post Here if you think the Patriots are the BIGGEST CHOKERS EVER
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goldensteelix Neo: Essential since: Dec 2002	Feb 05, 08 at 12:18pm ^ re: Post Here if you think the Patriots are the BIGGEST CHOKERS EVER
	quote finalblade98 quote goldensteelix Oh and finalblade98, that TD to Burress had nothing to do with Eli. N-o-t-h-i-n-g. It was due to Ellis Hobbs. A child could have thrown that ball to Burress. Eli managed the game, and had the football gods on his side. He simply couldn't screw up. LOL that proves how little you know, Eli and Burress has been practicing that same move, game winning TD all week before the game. Thats why it was so easy, ELI had EVERYTHING to do with the TD. Im not going to lie and say Ellis hobbs didn't contribute to a easy catch, but seriously it was a perfect pass by the man himself, ELi. Burress would have caught the ball even if hobbs was around him. See now you're making a statement based on an assumption, which is very dangerous. Besides that isn't a "move" or a "route", its a playground move. You go to the corner of the endzone and I'll lob the ball up to your freakish 6'5" frame and hope you outjump that 5'9" corner. Yeah you're right, such a throw was sheer talent on Eli's part. Any High School QB has made this throw multiple times. ------------------- You don't see just how wild the crowd is? You don't see just how fly my style is?
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RyanMcBainDOTcom newseeker total posts: 17 since: Jan 2008	Feb 05, 08 at 2:50pm ^ re: Post Here if you think the Patriots are the BIGGEST CHOKERS EVER
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Big Boss Neolithic since: Nov 2005	Feb 05, 08 at 4:09pm ^ re: Post Here if you think the Patriots are the BIGGEST CHOKERS EVER
	Haha, I loved this game. Big bad Tom Brady sure looked like a struggling quarterback, didn't he? The Giants didn't do anything fancy... all they did was rush on and beat on Brady... and that was more than enough to make him choke. I'm not a fan of either team, but I just loved seeing Tom Brady get his ass kicked for 60 minutes. -------------------
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Sadistic Killuminati Seeketh Maximus total posts: 5273 since: Jun 2005	Feb 05, 08 at 6:40pm ^ re: Post Here if you think the Patriots are the BIGGEST CHOKERS EVER
	quote goldensteelix quote finalblade98 quote goldensteelix Oh and finalblade98, that TD to Burress had nothing to do with Eli. N-o-t-h-i-n-g. It was due to Ellis Hobbs. A child could have thrown that ball to Burress. Eli managed the game, and had the football gods on his side. He simply couldn't screw up. LOL that proves how little you know, Eli and Burress has been practicing that same move, game winning TD all week before the game. Thats why it was so easy, ELI had EVERYTHING to do with the TD. Im not going to lie and say Ellis hobbs didn't contribute to a easy catch, but seriously it was a perfect pass by the man himself, ELi. Burress would have caught the ball even if hobbs was around him. See now you're making a statement based on an assumption, which is very dangerous. Besides that isn't a "move" or a "route", its a playground move. You go to the corner of the endzone and I'll lob the ball up to your freakish 6'5" frame and hope you outjump that 5'9" corner. Yeah you're right, such a throw was sheer talent on Eli's part. Any High School QB has made this throw multiple times. You are still acting like a bitch. Even when he plays great, your saying he got lucky. That was a perfect lob. If he had thrown it too far or two short it would've been a bad play. Give the dude some credit for bleeps sake. He earned it. 9-14 in the fourth quarter and 2 TD passes with a passer rating near perfect. -------------------
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Moonrise Neolithic since: May 2007	Feb 05, 08 at 6:49pm ^ re: Post Here if you think the Patriots are the BIGGEST CHOKERS EVER
	That was an easy throw, there's nothing special about it. You're being a little bitch because you're pissed there are people that don't agree with what you have to say. ------------------- Type-MOON
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